how good is INSULIN to bulk ?

**needbigguns** · 03-11-2006, 08:34 AM

I am no where near ready to use insulin and to be honest i dont think i would ever use it, but just out of interest, how good is insulin as a bulker...

***SPIKE*** · 03-11-2006, 09:47 AM

Here's some feedback, hope it helps.

Useing Insulin...

**Gear** · 03-11-2006, 10:58 PM

It won't really make much difference size wise.

-Gear

**yom** · 03-12-2006, 06:16 AM

make you fat hard to bulk for muscle with slin

**ultimate muscle** · 03-12-2006, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by yom

make you fat hard to bulk for muscle with slin

slin is very anabolic if used corerectly alongside t3 etc, if you are gaining unwanted fat you are simply timing meals wrong imo,

**goose** · 03-12-2006, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by ultimate muscle

slin is very anabolic if used corerectly alongside t3 etc, if you are gaining unwanted fat you are simply timing meals wrong imo,

This is the problem I am constantly seeing,people abusing this term `slin is very anabolic ` This means nothing in bodybuilding.I have not used slin and have no Interest,it does nothing for size and is quite Questionable whether it aids in recovery,it`s an illusion many fools believe in.It does have a use if you compete as it does fill your muscles.And please don`t give me the ASS/HGH/slin combo ball,give me proof!! Even the great hooker thinks this hormone is so overrated.Enjoy being a slave to nonsence.My rant is over

goose...

**ultimate muscle** · 03-12-2006, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by goose4

This is the problem I am constantly seeing,people abusing this term `slin is very anabolic ` This means nothing in bodybuilding.I have not used slin and have no Interest,it does nothing for size and is quite Questionable whether it aids in recovery,it`s an illusion many fools believe in.It does have a use if you compete as it does fill your muscles.And please don`t give me the ASS/HGH/slin combo ball,give me proof!! Even the great hooker thinks this hormone is so overrated.Enjoy being a slave to nonsence.My rant is over

goose...

i agree it is over rated, i mainly use between cycles as a bridge which works well for me, however i feel if you have not tried it its hard to comment, thats whi i never comment on igf , never used it,

**Warrior** · 03-12-2006, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by goose4

This is the problem I am constantly seeing,people abusing this term `slin is very anabolic ` This means nothing in bodybuilding.I have not used slin and have no Interest,it does nothing for size and is quite Questionable whether it aids in recovery,it`s an illusion many fools believe in.It does have a use if you compete as it does fill your muscles.And please don`t give me the ASS/HGH/slin combo ball,give me proof!! Even the great hooker thinks this hormone is so overrated.Enjoy being a slave to nonsence.My rant is over

goose...

Slin is anabolic - you are using the power of insulin when you use simple carb/pro drinks post workout (generating slin to shuttle the nutrients)... or when you keep fats away from carbs to avoid accumulating bodyfat (manipulating insulin's effect)... how can you be so against exogenous use when you have never tried it - let alone, tried it in an effective training and diet plan... ?

**goose** · 03-12-2006, 11:32 AM

I have spoken to many top dogs in UK,just go to avant forum and speak to Hooker about slin,he tried it once,never again he told me.I research very hard, unfortantly we don`t have many advanced Theorists in this specific forum.My words are aggressive,however,I believe in my ideology,as stated,if you compete it is an important tool.Slin is the most anabolic hormone in our body but it means jack shit.Methyltrienolone is the most powerful androgen yet it will yeild great results.I`m not saying it is useless,I would say all pro`s use it,but I have been very lucky in meeting a few extremely experienced bodybuilders to give me the reality of Slin,the choice is yours.....I`m here to give you the flip side to the coin...

goose...

**Warrior** · 03-12-2006, 12:34 PM

Hooker isn't exactly a big dude... so even though he has tried it - it doesn't look like too much of anything has "worked" for him... no insult - JMHO... I know he has studied a lot into PED's and sports - so I'll take his word of caution for what it's worth...

I might give it a whirl either to speed up carb loads in a CKD or in my next strength cycle...

**goose** · 03-12-2006, 12:44 PM

To be honest warrior,knowing myself I would not be surprised in the furture (a number of years) to give it a whirl too,has to be done,but I`m not expecting anything dramatic,I think that`s the key.

goose..

**Gear** · 03-12-2006, 09:40 PM

Insulin shuttles nutrients into cells faster than usual, it also allows your body to absorb more nutrients than usual. After a while of doing this, the "extra" absorbed nutrients do add up and end up causing weight/strength gain. This obviously doesn't happen right away, that is why most don't feel much from a typical 4 week cycle. But after a quite a few cycles, I'm sure there would be a difference. Insulin isn't a major compound to rely on. I use it for additional benefits only because I know it won't bring major gains right away.

-Gear

**Yellowknifer** · 03-12-2006, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

This is the problem I am constantly seeing,people abusing this term `slin is very anabolic ` This means nothing in bodybuilding.I have not used slin and have no Interest,it does nothing for size and is quite Questionable whether it aids in recovery,it`s an illusion many fools believe in.It does have a use if you compete as it does fill your muscles.And please don`t give me the ASS/HGH/slin combo ball,give me proof!! Even the great hooker thinks this hormone is so overrated.Enjoy being a slave to nonsence.My rant is over

goose...

I tend to agree with you. Personally I think it's pretty crazy to be injecting insulin if you're not a diabetic anyway. You're drastically increasing your chances of developing diabetes later in life. And diabetes sucks (I can tell you from experience, granted I have a different form than typically shows up in adults).

**Gear** · 03-12-2006, 11:40 PM

Yes, this hormone is over-rated, and yes, insulin does nothing for size or strength, I have always agreed to that and always will. But I will disagree with anyone that says "recovery" isn't important when it comes to bodybuilding. Recovery is the time when you gain, and insulin seems to be the perfect compound if you want to boost your recovery. Insulin may not bring immidiate results in terms of size, strength etc, but it actually is very beneficial in terms of recovery. There is proof that insulin shuttles nutrients into cells faster and allows your body to absorb more nutrients than usual, the graph (proof) was posted by Einsteain I believe, it could have been a few years ago but I'm sure it's still around. If I happen to come across it, I will post it on here. Alt it can be searched for.

-Gear

**Gear** · 03-12-2006, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by Yellowknifer

I think it's pretty crazy to be injecting insulin

Bro, we are not supposed be injecting anything lol. Not just insulin . If that's the case then nobody should inject testosterone , GH, insulin or whatever else people use to give them selves a boost. It's all bad for us.

-Gear

**Warrior** · 03-12-2006, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by Gear

Bro, we are not supposed be injecting anything lol. Not just insulin . If that's the case then nobody should inject testosterone , GH, insulin or whatever else people use to give them selves a boost. It's all bad for us.

-Gear

I was about to say the same thing

- its all about the safest way to do it - thats what we do here... some foreign substances should be forbidden (like DNP , in my opinion)... but from my research so far - exogenous insulin can be ran without f'ing up your pancreas...

**Gear** · 03-13-2006, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by Warrior

but from my research so far - exogenous insulin can be ran without f'ing up your pancreas...

I am also under the impression you can use slin safely without doing any serious damage.

-Gear

**Logan13** · 03-13-2006, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by Warrior

Hooker isn't exactly a big dude... so even though he has tried it - it doesn't look like too much of anything has "worked" for him... no insult - JMHO... I know he has studied a lot into PED's and sports - so I'll take his word of caution for what it's worth...

I might give it a whirl either to speed up carb loads in a CKD or in my next strength cycle...

I thought that Hooker was 5'6" @ 220lbs.......

Short but big, if the stats are true.

**Warrior** · 03-13-2006, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Logan13

I thought that Hooker was 5'6" @ 220lbs.......

Short but big, if the stats are true.

Not from the pic floating around of him on Lyle McDonlad's forums... not sure if he wants me posting it here... it's of him and Alwyn Cosgrove sitting in a chair... Cosgrove discussing his issues with cancer.

**Rolsroyce** · 03-13-2006, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

This is the problem I am constantly seeing,people abusing this term `slin is very anabolic ` This means nothing in bodybuilding.I have not used slin and have no Interest,it does nothing for size and is quite Questionable whether it aids in recovery,it`s an illusion many fools believe in.It does have a use if you compete as it does fill your muscles.And please don`t give me the ASS/HGH/slin combo ball,give me proof!! Even the great hooker thinks this hormone is so overrated.Enjoy being a slave to nonsence.My rant is over

goose...

how can you speak about somethig you have never tried and therefore know nothing about ?????

***SPIKE*** · 03-14-2006, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Warrior

Slin is anabolic - you are using the power of insulin when you use simple carb/pro drinks post workout (generating slin to shuttle the nutrients)..

Originally Posted by Gear

Insulin shuttles nutrients into cells faster than usual, it also allows your body to absorb more nutrients than usual. After a while of doing this, the "extra" absorbed nutrients do add up and end up causing weight/strength gain.

Originally Posted by Gear

I will disagree with anyone that says "recovery" isn't important when it comes to bodybuilding. Recovery is the time when you gain, and insulin seems to be the perfect compound if you want to boost your recovery.

This seems to be the most sound advice here. Recovery is the main issue to tackle when using slin.

I think the problem is that people expect too much from using slin. I do think that it is a bit hyped up b/c I always here people say "Slin makes you HUUUUUUUGE." Obviously those are the people that have never taken it.

I dont see tremendous immediate results but over time it does make a difference, at least with my experience..........