Been on hgh for 6+ months now

**Ufa** · 06-28-2006, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

1g of test wkly with 4 iu's HGH won't produce any synergy at all(except fatloss..big fvkin deal).You are walking around blind without a cane if you think anything under 10 ius with cause synergy in a cycle.IF you run HGH for about 10 months at a high dose,then do a cycle,yes,you'll get some synergy.But not they way you are thinking.

I know about high dose HGH,as I just ran 18 iu;s ED for 8 weeks straight ,and before that 10 ius ED for quite some time.I've been on HGH for years and have experimented with dose at all lewvels with/without drugs..so I'm talking from first hand experience,not from pubmed..like most in this forum/

~Pinnacle~

Pin any sides at 18 iu's? Or even 10 iu's?

**Seattle Junk** · 06-28-2006, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

1g of test wkly with 4 iu's HGH won't produce any synergy at all(except fatloss..big fvkin deal).You are walking around blind without a cane if you think anything under 10 ius with cause synergy in a cycle.IF you run HGH for about 10 months at a high dose,then do a cycle,yes,you'll get some synergy.But not they way you are thinking.

I know about high dose HGH,as I just ran 18 iu;s ED for 8 weeks straight ,and before that 10 ius ED for quite some time.I've been on HGH for years and have experimented with dose at all lewvels with/without drugs..so I'm talking from first hand experience,not from pubmed..like most in this forum/

~Pinnacle~

Do you get any sides like numbing or cts still? I have to imagine it takes awhile to get up to that dosage? WoW, I'm going to try that in the near future. A friend of mine was running 20ius 2 on/2 off/2 on like that. He says it works good and he's huge but don't know how to factor in the AAS and what's doing what. What do you think of that protocol?

**Pinnacle** · 06-28-2006, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Ufa

Pin any sides at 18 iu's? Or even 10 iu's?

No...NONE...only time I ever had sides from HGH was when I first started using it years back....all the bullshit you read in this forum about sides at high doses are nothing but inexperienced thread parrots that only have read studies to make some half assed conconclusion.When in fact they don't have the balls,nor cash to run HGH at a dose high enough to see what it actually does.These parrots haven't even ran HGH AT ALL in some cases...so believe VERY little on what you read in THIS forum...bad info is passed out here by ppl you really wouldn't suspect.

I'd only trust "Red Baron"(if I were a newbie looking for advice) and maybe 2-3 others...that's it.Beware of blue and red(if you get my drift)

~Pinnacle~

**oswaldosalcedo** · 06-28-2006, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

No...NONE...only time I ever had sides from HGH was when I first started using it years back....all the bullshit you read in this forum about sides at high doses are nothing but inexperienced thread parrots that only have read studies to make some half assed conconclusion.When in fact they don't have the balls,nor cash to run HGH at a dose high enough to see what it actually does.These parrots haven't even ran HGH AT ALL in some cases...so believe VERY little on what you read in THIS forum...bad info is passed out here by ppl you really wouldn't suspect.

I'd only trust "Red Baron"(if I were a newbie looking for advice) and maybe 2-3 others...that's it.Beware of blue and red(if you get my drift)

~Pinnacle~

i agree, I have not used hgh (i have no cash for),but I have used it in my clients at 4 ius ed and nothing, i agree at least,that it doesn't work in low doses.
i am a blue baron, Pinn? ...............lol....................

**taiboxa** · 06-28-2006, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

No...NONE...only time I ever had sides from HGH was when I first started using it years back....all the bullshit you read in this forum about sides at high doses are nothing but inexperienced thread parrots that only have read studies to make some half assed conconclusion.When in fact they don't have the balls,nor cash to run HGH at a dose high enough to see what it actually does.These parrots haven't even ran HGH AT ALL in some cases...so believe VERY little on what you read in THIS forum...bad info is passed out here by ppl you really wouldn't suspect.

I'd only trust "Red Baron"(if I were a newbie looking for advice) and maybe 2-3 others...that's it.Beware of blue and red(if you get my drift)

~Pinnacle~

when i started i started gh i started at 8iu ED .. did that then went down to 2iu for a while until i was redy to run another cycle.. 3weeks out from cycle i ramped GH from 2iu ED to 12iu ED ... MAN LETME TELL U WHAT! LOL my JAW ached all the time for 3 weeks then it subsided

but taht was it for me

OH and PINN am i one fo these unsuspected bad info passers or am i suspected?

**Ufa** · 06-28-2006, 03:25 PM

tai --a slow i.v. drip is recommended.

**slimz** · 06-28-2006, 09:04 PM

Pinnacle, so what dosage of gh you recommend for the first time gh user. I have been on gh at 4iu 5/2 for 8 weeks now, also doing 250mg of sust and 300 mg of tren . Have plenty of size great pumps but that probably from the juice. Lost lots of fat specially around stomach area and look very lean that probably from the gh. But what dosage do you recommend i do?
30 yrs old 210 lbs been juicing on and off for 4 yrs now.

**taiboxa** · 06-29-2006, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Ufa

tai --a slow i.v. drip is recommended.

why would gh go intraveinous?

**Pinnacle** · 06-29-2006, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by slimz

Pinnacle, so what dosage of gh you recommend for the first time gh user. I have been on gh at 4iu 5/2 for 8 weeks now, also doing 250mg of sust and 300 mg of tren . Have plenty of size great pumps but that probably from the juice. Lost lots of fat specially around stomach area and look very lean that probably from the gh. But what dosage do you recommend i do?
30 yrs old 210 lbs been juicing on and off for 4 yrs now.

I'm not recommending HGH PERIOD !! I think the average gym rat has no business using HGH unless he has joint issues or very low HGH levels.The average gym rat won't do the dose required to see adequate results and really has no need to do those doses anyway..An athlete or bodybuilder would see results since they do the proper doses and have REASON to do the proper doses.....GYM RATS should save your cash for food and amino acids.. gym rats have ZERO need for HGH ..especially if you are going to run it at MICKEY MOUSE 4-6 iu's 5 on/2 off...

~Pinnacle~

**Ufa** · 06-29-2006, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

why would gh go intraveinous?

Maybe a faster half life. 36 min as opposed to 1.75 hours for sup-q. This
is in slip sheet. Wondering why they would discuss intravenious. Seems
to get large dosage you must do about 4 shots per day.

Ever since I saw the intraveinous half life of .6 hrs on slip sheet, I
could not help wondering if they tried that on test subjects.

If this post offends any one PM me and I will delete.

**G-Force** · 06-30-2006, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by Ufa

Maybe a faster half life. 36 min as opposed to 1.75 hours for sup-q. This
is in slip sheet. Wondering why they would discuss intravenious. Seems
to get large dosage you must do about 4 shots per day.

Ever since I saw the intraveinous half life of .6 hrs on slip sheet, I
could not help wondering if they tried that on test subjects.

If this post offends any one PM me and I will delete.

why would it offend anyone

**taiboxa** · 06-30-2006, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by Ufa

Maybe a faster half life. 36 min as opposed to 1.75 hours for sup-q. This
is in slip sheet. Wondering why they would discuss intravenious. Seems
to get large dosage you must do about 4 shots per day.

Ever since I saw the intraveinous half life of .6 hrs on slip sheet, I
could not help wondering if they tried that on test subjects.

If this post offends any one PM me and I will delete.

no probs here..j ust not a big fan of ANYTHING being administred IV

**yom** · 06-30-2006, 09:24 AM

thats a lot of cash for pinns supply for gh - a kit e5 -10 d x 8 weeks .
id love to try it one day when i win the lotto

**Standard01** · 06-30-2006, 02:32 PM

Pinnacle, how do you recommend for someone to ramp up to a dose of 15iu ED? I'm sure going by feel is necessary, but if you could help out with a general guideline or what worked for you that would be great. I did 2iu for a month, then ramped to 4iu over 2 months, then tried going to 6iu, but numbness and joint pain became too much.

**sobenick** · 07-01-2006, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by lzicc

I mainly want to feel good, young(er) you could say. Maybe I am looking at the wrong solution or maybe I need to go back to the american brand. It is so much more expensive though. I would increase the dosage, but like said above, it is so expensive and the sides get rough for me.

When I take test, I feel good. My mind feels good and my body feels good. I guess with the gh I was hoping it would reinforce that feeling.

I'm going to run the Jin's out and then start using my american brand and see how it goes.

I have used both American and Jin and now use Jin exclusively. I have been on for 6 months and am 38 yrs old. I take 100mg of Test Cyp with it. I do see the difference. Now -- I started with 1iu ED and went to 2iu then 3iu and then 4iu. At 4iu, I started getting pains in my knee (when I walked stairs, etc.) I dropped back to 3iu and the pain went away. I did 5iu for 1 week and started to get very mild numbness in my fingers... no other sides.

I think that 10 - 20iu for you is crazy. I am no expert, but from what you are saying your goals are, I think you are at the right dosage. Everyone is different and everyone will react differently. If it doesn't work for you, then get off it... simple as that. If you walk into a door and each time you walk in you get hit in the face.... you eventually stop walking through the door right?

Finally... I would get some blood work done. Have your levels evaluated now and in 6 months. That will tell the true effect HGH is having on you. Blood work will speak the truth.

**zaggahamma** · 07-01-2006, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by sobenick

I have used both American and Jin and now use Jin exclusively. I have been on for 6 months and am 38 yrs old. I take 100mg of Test Cyp with it. I do see the difference. Now -- I started with 1iu ED and went to 2iu then 3iu and then 4iu. At 4iu, I started getting pains in my knee (when I walked stairs, etc.) I dropped back to 3iu and the pain went away. I did 5iu for 1 week and started to get very mild numbness in my fingers... no other sides.

I think that 10 - 20iu for you is crazy. I am no expert, but from what you are saying your goals are, I think you are at the right dosage. Everyone is different and everyone will react differently. If it doesn't work for you, then get off it... simple as that. If you walk into a door and each time you walk in you get hit in the face.... you eventually stop walking through the door right?

Finally... I would get some blood work done. Have your levels evaluated now and in 6 months. That will tell the true effect HGH is having on you. Blood work will speak the truth.

What exactly do you look for in the blood work when it comes to HGH usage and improvements in health?