HGH 19 years old?

**juiceboxxx** · 07-31-2006, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by C_Bino

Why dont you. Explain to me why 19 is too young for HGH please ... I will be waiting.

The best age to start the HGH is over 28-30 when you already are in decreasing natty production of HGH so this will not be a high risk of skeletal disorder since your growing plates close after you're 21-22 yo or so and then the natty HGH pruduction starts to slow down as well, IMO if you're willing to run any
HGH don't go over 2IUs day cuz this may mess up with your natty production for
sure.

**Superhuman** · 07-31-2006, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by juiceboxxx

The best age to start the HGH is over 28-30 when you already are in decreasing natty production of HGH so this will not be a high risk of skeletal disorder since your growing plates close after you're 21-22 yo or so and then the natty HGH pruduction starts to slow down as well, IMO if you're willing to run any
HGH don't go over 2IUs day cuz this may mess up with your natty production for
sure.

there was a scientific study done where subjects' GH levels returned to normal after running a 3-6month cycle of HGH. you can find it on google if you want

**C_Bino** · 07-31-2006, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by juiceboxxx

The best age to start the HGH is over 28-30 when you already are in decreasing natty production of HGH so this will not be a high risk of skeletal disorder since your growing plates close after you're 21-22 yo or so and then the natty HGH pruduction starts to slow down as well, IMO if you're willing to run any
HGH don't go over 2IUs day cuz this may mess up with your natty production for
sure.

I have never ONCE seen a study that says taking GH messes with your natural production. In fact unlike AAS your body does not stop producing GH when you introduce it synthetically.

I agree about the growth plates, but I myself have asked the vets/mods here about running at at an early age. No harm that anyone can see if growth plates are fused.

***Narkissos*** · 07-31-2006, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Bear-StrengthWithin

sorry but you can great benefits from HGH on age of 19 on 10-15 IU. If you take it year round. Just wouldn,t recomment unless your either retarded or in for becoming pro like me. But saying its useless on that age is bullshit sorry.

You're not wrong.

But.. i wouldn't advise he use the compound honestly.

Can he use it and get benefits? Of course. Would it be safe? No one knows.. and not knowing is the scary part.

Narkissos

***Narkissos*** · 07-31-2006, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by juiceboxxx

The best age to start the HGH is over 28-30 when you already are in decreasing natty production of HGH so this will not be a high risk of skeletal disorder since your growing plates close after you're 21-22 yo or so .

How did 'skeletal disorders' come into the equation?

**fossilfuel7** · 08-01-2006, 02:18 AM

I'm 24 and the only reason I would use GH and will be using GH is because of a few nagging tendon issues that cannot be shaken loose naturally.

Don't get me wrong in that I wouldn't appreciate a little fat loss.

**Maldorf** · 08-01-2006, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by fossilfuel7

I'm 24 and the only reason I would use GH and will be using GH is because of a few nagging tendon issues that cannot be shaken loose naturally.

Don't get me wrong in that I wouldn't appreciate a little fat loss.

At 24 I had tendons that were sore, and many times would get tendonitis but I didnt run off and start doing HGH. Seems like everyone now wants to start taking HGH and AAS before they have built up a good physique naturally. Tendonitis can be healed up by lifting smart and giving them time to rest, someone your age doesnt have to resort to using HGH.

**fossilfuel7** · 08-01-2006, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Maldorf

At 24 I had tendons that were sore, and many times would get tendonitis but I didnt run off and start doing HGH. Seems like everyone now wants to start taking HGH and AAS before they have built up a good physique naturally. Tendonitis can be healed up by lifting smart and giving them time to rest, someone your age doesnt have to resort to using HGH.

Well...I hate to break it to you, but I have had bad problems with tendonitis(now chronic tendonosis) in my elbows since 19 and 20. I have spent $10,000+ on worthless therapies and NSAID's over the years now. I have a stack of medical records and actually have my doc willing to put me on GH @ 2iu's 5/2 protocol.

I have did a lot of research for over a year now and it's not like I am just jumping into the pool on this subject.

BTW...I used to have a 225 pd physique(natty) @10% 6'0 tall @ 20 yrs old. The pain finally got so bad that I quit and became very very depressed. Guess what?..I ended up losing it all. Now I have been lifting twice a week for about 3 months now and I still have to use a damn muscle stimulator to keep the pain from getting out of control.

My problem is now Tendonosis and there is no healing that will take place naturally as with tendonitis

. I will also be getting direct spot injections(also known as Prolotherapy). It will take abnormal healing in my case to resolve the problem....=GH.

So unfortuanatley..yes..someone my age does have to resort to using GH.

I guess I should be happpy that I have never torn any tendons and may get back to %100 one day.

Again, it's not like I just decided..hmmmm...my arms are bothering me..and I think I shall take GH

**harlesschize2** · 08-01-2006, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by vermin

To gain three stones, or to just have three? To have three about 4IU into the scrotum twice a day every day. You's need at least 3 times that much to gain three (5 total) - that'd be 24IU ED. Don't worry if your sack starts to turn black, it happens to us all, keep at it.

Good luck bro, and post a journal, preferably with photos.

Oh, and better lay off the GF while your doing it - don't want to sap any vital juices. If she doesn't understand, send me her 'phone number and address and I can help her through this difficult time.

ok thanks! can i not inject into the stomach? and would i need to take other things like insulin at my age? if so can you tell me what exactly to use?thanks man

**vermin** · 08-01-2006, 12:01 PM

Fossil - those of us who have followed you in other threads know yours is not the usual, just as young burn victims might be given growth, still as a general comment I think Nark has a point.

As a general rule, the potential sides for a 20yo are much higher and much worse than, say at 35. Moreover, few 20yos have hit their full natural potential - in fact, since they are mostly still growing they are trying to hit a moving target. Quick question - can you bench 600 (reps) and squat 800 (for 20)? If not then you have not hit the "natural" limits, so why would someone use AAS or HGH?

**comradebillyboy** · 08-01-2006, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by harlesschize2

ok thanks! can i not inject into the stomach? and would i need to take other things like insulin at my age? if so can you tell me what exactly to use?thanks man

I think vermin may be yanking your chain regarding scrotal injections and quantities. But I could be wrong.

**Ufa** · 08-01-2006, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by comradebillyboy

I think vermin may be yanking your chain regarding scrotal injections and quantities. But I could be wrong.

Comrade you are never wrong.

**100%NATURAL-theGH** · 08-01-2006, 02:38 PM

21 yo myself and running 5iu/day.... keeps me lean... helps with my joints... it's really rounding out my weaknesses... it's good shit... I use it ED and so far I like it a lot... only about 3 kits in so far but none the less I like it... I would use it at 19 if I had access to it and COULD AFFORD to run 5iu/ed for 6 months or more... if not wait...

**fossilfuel7** · 08-01-2006, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by vermin

Fossil - those of us who have followed you in other threads know yours is not the usual, just as young burn victims might be given growth, still as a general comment I think Nark has a point.

As a general rule, the potential sides for a 20yo are much higher and much worse than, say at 35. Moreover, few 20yos have hit their full natural potential - in fact, since they are mostly still growing they are trying to hit a moving target. Quick question - can you bench 600 (reps) and squat 800 (for 20)? If not then you have not hit the "natural" limits, so why would someone use AAS or HGH?

Oh..I agree 100% with you. As for benching 600 and squatting 800...heck no I can't do those numbers...but if that's what pro BB's based there AAS and GH use upon....then there would probably be very few pro's competing as very few people ever hit those numbers.

Those are more powerlifting numbers and not Bodybuilding numbers IMO. Not everyone is genetically designed to bench 600 and squat 800..so I would not call those the natural limits for everyone.

I had facial hair at 12 and was done growing at 17...so i would say at 24 I am a somewhat well seasoned individual.

**vermin** · 08-01-2006, 07:35 PM

Well instead of arguing numbers, I think we can agree in principal.

**fossilfuel7** · 08-01-2006, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by vermin

Well instead of arguing numbers, I think we can agree in principal.

I agree!

**XEME** · 08-02-2006, 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by harlesschize2

hi.can you tell me if it is alright to inject hgh when you are only 19 years old? thank you!

u can release hgh at a high level, 19..so young ....
keep away from hgh till you desire to bulking and too old to produce hgh by yrself!

**Maldorf** · 08-02-2006, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by fossilfuel7

Well...I hate to break it to you, but I have had bad problems with tendonitis(now chronic tendonosis) in my elbows since 19 and 20. I have spent $10,000+ on worthless therapies and NSAID's over the years now. I have a stack of medical records and actually have my doc willing to put me on GH @ 2iu's 5/2 protocol.

I have did a lot of research for over a year now and it's not like I am just jumping into the pool on this subject.

BTW...I used to have a 225 pd physique(natty) @10% 6'0 tall @ 20 yrs old. The pain finally got so bad that I quit and became very very depressed. Guess what?..I ended up losing it all. Now I have been lifting twice a week for about 3 months now and I still have to use a damn muscle stimulator to keep the pain from getting out of control.

My problem is now Tendonosis and there is no healing that will take place naturally as with tendonitis

. I will also be getting direct spot injections(also known as Prolotherapy). It will take abnormal healing in my case to resolve the problem....=GH.

So unfortuanatley..yes..someone my age does have to resort to using GH.

I guess I should be happpy that I have never torn any tendons and may get back to %100 one day.

Again, it's not like I just decided..hmmmm...my arms are bothering me..and I think I shall take GH

Sorry to hear about the tendonosis. Im not familiar with that disorder, it sounds bad. Can that be linked to family history? It is great that your doctor is going to have you use the GH if he thinks it will help. Right now I have tendonitis and it still hasnt fully healed after 2 months of GH at an average of 4 IU/day. I wonder just how effective it is for tendon problems and how long it takes to heal.

**vermin** · 08-02-2006, 11:06 AM

From WebMD:

In an early-stage tendon injury, your tendon may have some inflammation (tendinitis). If you continue to overuse the injured tendon, over time you may develop a more serious problem—tissue breakdown (tendinosis). Treatment guidelines are generally the same for tendinitis and tendinosis, but anti-inflammatory medication does not help tendinosis heal.1 Tendinosis treatment also requires a longer period of rest than tendinitis, to allow for tendon regeneration.

Well they go on to state that healing is possible but that it can take 6+ months. They do not mention GH, but evidently your doc did, and it seems like the kind of healing that folks look to GH for.

**fossilfuel7** · 08-02-2006, 12:18 PM

Thanks for that defenition Vermin!

Originally Posted by Maldorf

Sorry to hear about the tendonosis. Im not familiar with that disorder, it sounds bad. Can that be linked to family history? It is great that your doctor is going to have you use the GH if he thinks it will help. Right now I have tendonitis and it still hasnt fully healed after 2 months of GH at an average of 4 IU/day. I wonder just how effective it is for tendon problems and how long it takes to heal.

Yeah Tendonosis is the reason I'm turning to GH unfortuanatley.

Alot of people seem to respond differently to GH with regard to healing tendons.

for some.....there years old tendon problems heal in the first 4-8 weeks of GH use at a low dose...for others it can take longer ...like 4-6 months.

I guess it depends on the individual and the nature of there problem.

There are many experiences on this forum to go off of.

I'm rather surprised your tendonitis hasn't healed after 8 weeks of GH @4IUED

considering your problem isn't very old yet.

Then again..I don't know the nature of the problem either.

Are you seeing any results from your GH?? What brand?

**Maldorf** · 08-02-2006, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by fossilfuel7

Thanks for that defenition Vermin!

Yeah Tendonosis is the reason I'm turning to GH unfortuanatley.

Alot of people seem to respond differently to GH with regard to healing tendons.

for some.....there years old tendon problems heal in the first 4-8 weeks of GH use at a low dose...for others it can take longer ...like 4-6 months.

I guess it depends on the individual and the nature of there problem.

There are many experiences on this forum to go off of.

I'm rather surprised your tendonitis hasn't healed after 8 weeks of GH @4IUED

considering your problem isn't very old yet.

Then again..I don't know the nature of the problem either.

Are you seeing any results from your GH?? What brand?

I am getting some results. Some fat loss and my skin does look better, perhaps a bit younger. I do feel like I am healing up a bit faster while lifting too. I am using blue tops now from china.
My tendonitis is in my petallar tendons and I got it from doing some heavy powerlifting over the course of 6 weeks. I havent laid off the squats yet, just going lighter weight for higher reps and it is healing up some. I suppose if I stopped squating for a couple of weeks and just did leg presses it might heal faster, but I am trying to maintain my strength. I am willing to have the healing process take a bit longer, Ive gone through this before so its not new. I was hoping the GH might have a more powerful response.

**fitguy** · 08-02-2006, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by 100%NATURAL-theGH

21 yo myself and running 5iu/day.... keeps me lean... helps with my joints... it's really rounding out my weaknesses... it's good shit... I use it ED and so far I like it a lot... only about 3 kits in so far but none the less I like it... I would use it at 19 if I had access to it and COULD AFFORD to run 5iu/ed for 6 months or more... if not wait...

what are your stats and gain that u have got from the gh ,also how mani iu are you using per week and for how long do u intend to run it ?