GH results-not so great

[__DevilDog__]

no problem bro, i get mine from a doctor. he saw rite throught me, i couldnt really bullshit him, i told him i got injured in the war and wanted to heal better, he laughed and gave it to me, but doctors arent stupid especially if ur askin for gh and ur at a young age.

[mr newbreed]

what health benifits does it have ?,just so im prepared when he asks me why i want it !

[No.Neck]

what health benifits does it have ?,just so im prepared when he asks me why i want it !

The main property of HGH is to increase height, and the other important benefits are that it increases muscle mass, helps in calcium retention in our body, helps in keeping bones healthy, reduces fat in the body, helps in controlling sugar and insulin levels, helps with immunity and several more important functions that keep us healthy when we are young.

The secretion of this hormone starts reducing by the time we are in our 30s and as we grow older, the pituitary gland produces lesser and lesser of this most important hormone. The level of secretion is highest in our early childhood. It peaks during puberty when there is a growth spurt.

The levels of secretion continue to decline throughout our adult life. This decrease in the levels of HGH is what may cause us to look old, have problems like diabetes, depression, loss of energy, loss of muscle mass and every other problem associated with aging.

[mr newbreed]

can you list all the reasons that somebody may ask there doctor for hgh as im going at the end of the week,also is there a certain kind of hgh that is better and i would be wanting to have,tell me as much as possible bro,thankyou for your help

[jerseyboy]

In the past you could just go through a doc at some rejuvination clinic somewhere. Send him some blood samples and get a script. Things ain't that simple anymore. The only way I can see you getting a script for GH is if you're either a teenage dwarf or have AIDS. Maybe things are different on your side of the pond but here in the States docs don't just hand out scripts anymore, not if they value they're license to practice medicine anyway.

[No.Neck]

can you list all the reasons that somebody may ask there doctor for hgh as im going at the end of the week,also is there a certain kind of hgh that is better and i would be wanting to have,tell me as much as possible bro,thankyou for your help

Diabetes, depression, loss of energy, loss of muscle mass, calcium retention in our body, helps in keeping bones healthy, reduces fat in the body, helps in controlling sugar and insulin levels, helps with immunity.

[znak]

low igf-1

[jerseyboy]

low igf-1

You might have a chance with this one.

[Booz]

personally i do not change my diet whilst on growth and i do not do any cardio either and i burn fat bigtime............................

[jerseyboy]

Same here.

[RA]

How come you guys dont do any cardio?

[mr newbreed]

low igf-1

is there anyway to lower this ?

[ZaneFan]

How come you guys dont do any cardio?

I am a hard gainer. If I stop going to the gym I get skinny not fat.

[znak]

personally i do not change my diet whilst on growth and i do not do any cardio either and i burn fat bigtime............................

For me it is a balancing act... if I do cardio, as a hard gainer I FRY fat... and muscle.

I will never be in the O, so my goal is to look good and be healthy, so there are trades with diet, workout, timing, etc. that have to be done.

[jerseyboy]

I used to do cardio but I never got rid of the little fat that I had and I was losing muscle. GH took care of the fat loss and it was well worth the money spent. Now that I'm 37 I really want to start back up twice a week maybe 20 or 30 minutes if not for anything but to exercise my heart. Plus my daughter runs track so running together will be good quality time. Like znak though my time is always juggled between work and my family.

[znak]

Iif not for anything but to exercise my heart. Plus my daughter runs track so running together will be good quality time.

Kills two birds with one stone... This is exactly how I got back. 45 minutes of jawing with my 20 year old daughter three times a week.

a) you can't quit with your own "little girl"
b) you can't stand her up.
c) it is good for you
d) she can't see the shock on your face when she tells you stuff you need to know, but might not want to hear.

My ex-wife is really looker and our daugher looks like her. When we are running, it is funny to watch the boys just gawk as we go by. Having a 210 pound old dude next to her doesn't dampen the drool a bit.

[jerseyboy]

Yeah well mine is 13 and I don't think it's funny at all when they look at her. She's getting so tall and I'm really not looking any older so alot of people think I'm her brother. I guess soon they might think it's my GF.

[Booz]

How come you guys dont do any cardio?

lol you old cow i dont need to...................

[Booz]

your heart gets a workout each time you hit the weights mate............

[jerseyboy]

Yeah but they keep telling me that cardio is still necessary. I don't think that the short periods between sets where your heart rate is elevated is the same thing. Besides, I may not have any GH to keep me lean in the spring.

[znak]

Yeah well mine is 13 and I don't think it's funny at all when they look at her. She's getting so tall and I'm really not looking any older so alot of people think I'm her brother. I guess soon they might think it's my GF.

easy situation... kick their asses.

I can't, too much money.. lawyers, liability, etc.

[__DevilDog__]

i guess if u do a lot of dropsets and supersets, u can actually get ur heart rate kinda of up

[jerseyboy]

There's a difference between aerobic and anaerobic training.

[dallascowboys]

i thought u didnt see results from HGH until like 4 or 5 months? I also read that you would actually get better results if you did it EOD because thats how your body does it, or something to that matter. But they did a study and said that EOD administration got better results that ED administration.

[jerseyboy]

It might take some people 4 or 5 months, especially if they have a higher body fat %. Your not going to go from obese to rail thin in 6 months on GH. I've read about EOD injects and I've tried it a couple different ways. I'm a believer that your body probably doesn't produce the same amount of natural gh at the same time each and every day. So why would you inject it that way? I suppose maybe AIDS patients or those with gh deficiencies of some sort might benefit from clockwork injects. I can't say. I've done split injects as well as all PWO and EOD, ED and 5 on 2 off. It's hard to say what worked the best. It did seem though that as long as my body was getting the gh I would continue to get leaner and more vascular.

[PROTEINSHAKE]

BOOZ & JERSEY... what kinda IUs per day u running??? or did run?

[RA]

get ur ass on that treadmill a couple times a week...if nothing else it will keep the stamina up for the ladies.

lol you old cow i dont need to...................

[jerseyboy]

I averaged 10iu's ED. I tried different protocols like 20iu's 3 times a week. 10iu's PWO with slin site injected intramuscular. I felt my best at 5iu's ED. I was still losing fat and didn't have to deal with the lethargy that I had at higher doses.

[PROTEINSHAKE]

nice jersey.......thats exactly what im doin 5 iu ED been 6 or so weeks.... starting to notice......... others have noticed more than i have...

[Oki-Des]

Mr. Newbreed, you know you shouldnt hihack a thread, but I will anwer your questions quickly. I have a prescription and I simply told the doc I was feeling slow and not as energetic as I use to. I said my metabolism is changing and I feel I am gaining some additional fat weight I used to be able to keep off.
Anit age clinics look age aging as a disease and this is what you are getting the prescription for.
Good luck

[jerseyboy]

nice jersey.......thats exactly what im doin 5 iu ED been 6 or so weeks.... starting to notice......... others have noticed more than i have...

That's cause your looking for it every day in the mirror. I look at pictures of myself from years ago and I'm like holy crap.

[jerseyboy]

Mr. Newbreed, you know you shouldnt hihack a thread, but I will anwer your questions quickly. I have a prescription and I simply told the doc I was feeling slow and not as energetic as I use to. I said my metabolism is changing and I feel I am gaining some additional fat weight I used to be able to keep off.
Anit age clinics look age aging as a disease and this is what you are getting the prescription for.
Good luck

Florida seems to be the ************ clinic capital of the world.

[ZaneFan]

Florida seems to be the ************ clinic capital of the world.

Lucky bastards. We might have to all move there.

[biggunSC]

I was put on Omnitrope 5.8mg/vial and dilute with 3ml bacteriostatic water. At .10iu's 5 shots a week two days off. My first question is: based on the HGH amount in the vial that works out to 5.8mg/15.66iu to the vial when I dilute with the water of 3ml/300iu that works out to be 300iu/15.66iu = 19.157088 I don't think I'm getting a full 1iu of HGH in the amount of .10iu (insulin pin) per shot the Doctor perscribed what does the forum think? Plus I'm taking my shots at 10pm and going to to bed around 2am. I am losing body fat %, at 5 months in I have loss 6%. My second question is: I'm 44 am I'm taking my shot to late at night?
I'm also taking once every two weeks 1.6cc 200mg test. Seeing results but feel it could be better.

[jerseyboy]

That's my point exactly. Docs rarely prescribe enough GH to do any good for bodybuilding purposes. It's usually a dose to supplement what your body isn't making itself. Your body produces it's own Gh once you reach REM sleep so injecting late at night isn't usually the best time. Early morning or mid-afternoon is usually the rule of thumb so as not to suppress your natural production. I think it's great though that you've lost BF even at a low dosage. Also why so much time between your test injections? Even a long ester like cypionate should be shot at least once a week. Seems the doc should want your blood levels stable instead of up and down every other week.

[biggunSC]

That's my point exactly. Docs rarely prescribe enough GH to do any good for bodybuilding purposes. It's usually a dose to supplement what your body isn't making itself. Your body produces it's own Gh once you reach REM sleep so injecting late at night isn't usually the best time. Early morning or mid-afternoon is usually the rule of thumb so as not to suppress your natural production. I think it's great though that you've lost BF even at a low dosage. Also why so much time between your test injections? Even a long ester like cypionate should be shot at least once a week. Seems the doc should want your blood levels stable instead of up and down every other week.

I tend to agree, I have increased my workouts so that may have a lot to do with it, I have roughly 45 days left before I end my 6 month program( Follow up with the Doc and new blood work). I think I should move my shots to when I get up 10-11am for the next 45 days, What do you think? I guess as for the test thats what he set up so I stuck with it, I could split up the shots to 1 a week that should help you think? Thank you for the input.

[deadliftin00]

13 weeks at 8 IU - if you're not seeing results I would strongly consider the possibility that you got fake GH bro. Although the previous posts are right (everyone reacts differently) 18 weeks at 8 IU should be showing some pretty decent results.

One thing I would suggest is dropping your carbs to near zero and see what happens. You may just have a shitty metabolism. Since your on the GH anyways, you don't have to worry about losing much muscle if you get near caloric deficiency. You're gonna feel like crap for 2-3 weeks but if you want to get it done, then just do it.

Also to reiterate, 2 weeks is completely unreasonable for HGH. HGH is a slow, "natural" acting compound that is not meant at all the produce instant changes in the body. If you want to rip fat in 2 weeks, GH is not where it's at. A sample 4 week fat burner:

1. drop your carbs to near zero (maybe 300-400 cals a day of complex carbs. That includes may 50 a day PWO of waxy maize or dex).
2. continue taking the GH to protect muscle from catabolism. Make sure you are also getting plenty of BCAAs.
3. Get your hands on some clen or preferrably t3. Find a dosing schedule. For clen youd probably go from 10 mcg a day up to maybe 100-120 for the last two weeks.
4. If your ambitious the month prior to your burner start 250 mg a week of test. 2 weeks prior to the burner start winny. Run them 4 weeks after you finish the 4 weeks of "burning"
5.) Short intense sessions of cardio 6 days a week. Try not to do marathon sessions - you won't have the energy for that. Keep it to 15-20 mins twice a day - but don't ***** foot around for the 20 mins, you gotta get your heart rate up there quick.

If you started in a reasonable place, I don't care who you are, you're gonna be poppin veins after that.

And "mr newbreed" I don't know it is in the UK, but in the US, unless you have stunted growth or AIDS you're probably not getting a prescription for HGH. I doubt you will find a doctor who is willing to risk his license to get you some kits of GH.

[RA]

Anti-aging clinics will give you a script.

And "mr newbreed" I don't know it is in the UK, but in the US, unless you have stunted growth or AIDS you're probably not getting a prescription for HGH. I doubt you will find a doctor who is willing to risk his license to get you some kits of GH.

[jerseyboy]

I tend to agree, I have increased my workouts so that may have a lot to do with it, I have roughly 45 days left before I end my 6 month program( Follow up with the Doc and new blood work). I think I should move my shots to when I get up 10-11am for the next 45 days, What do you think? I guess as for the test thats what he set up so I stuck with it, I could split up the shots to 1 a week that should help you think? Thank you for the input.

The long ester in cyp is active for 2 weeks but that doesn't mean the blood levels will stay up. The whole idea is to keep them stable. He's just giving you doses for libido. Tell the doc your concerned about it and maybe he'll put you on smaller more frequent injects. Every 5-6 days would be good. Twice a week would be ideal. As far as the GH goes, any time in the morning would be better than before bed.

[__DevilDog__]

alrite guys, so i am on week 20 now, at 30 iu a week, i was at 50 iu before, before, but i been down on money lately. i guess with the amount of eating, i havent gained any fat, i am on a test cycle with primo, so i have about 5-10 lbs of water retention. i am gonna stop my gh for two month and then start again, i will let u guys know how my body look like and feels after the gh and aas cycle. peace