Pathetic HGH (IGF-1) results after 6 months

[SlimmerMe]

after 6 months of HGH averaging 1.5 units ED, my IGF-1 level only went up 25 points. So....either Omnitrope is horrible stuff....

OR WHAT??????
I am so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so UPSET!!!!!!!!!

6 months of getting up in the wee hours to pin and back to sleep, or before bed....either way....this is PITIFUL!

ANY IDEAS? PLEASE!

[Dont wanna be old]

Besides a number . How do you feel or look ?
Is the number important ?
I have no experience YET , But I have expectations of skin improvement and stomach fat reduction .

[bjpennnn]

I am not sure but i feel like that dose is not that high to begin with eh?

I am so skeptical with hgh these days ha

[SlimmerMe]

the number should be a lot more, I would think
I have felt a better sense of well being and better sleep...longer feet..more mass...no BF reduction...and no skin improvement from what all I can tell...

[SlimmerMe]

I am not sure but i feel like that dose is not that high to begin with eh?

I am so skeptical with hgh these days ha

should be enough for a female....especially pharma grade...now I am skeptical....especially re: Omnitrope...I wonder about the stuff

[ScotchGuard02]

slim, you look great in your avatar. Seriously, 1.5iu should be enough but then again each person reacts differently to the HGH. I think you know that the HGH is the real deal so you should bump up the dose by 1/2 an iu. Then again, 1.5iu for a female of pharma grade should be plenty. You doing anything with the reconstitution? Shaking the vial, storing it in room temp, preloading syringes and keeping it under the bed? You got a lot of experience so I doubt you're doing these things but maybe there's something you're over looking. Your HGH could be bunk too. How about trying some other brand of HGH for a month and see how it affects your IGF level.

[SlimmerMe]

slim, you look great in your avatar. Seriously, 1.5iu should be enough but then again each person reacts differently to the HGH. I think you know that the HGH is the real deal so you should bump up the dose by 1/2 an iu. Then again, 1.5iu for a female of pharma grade should be plenty. You doing anything with the reconstitution? Shaking the vial, storing it in room temp, preloading syringes and keeping it under the bed? You got a lot of experience so I doubt you're doing these things but maybe there's something you're over looking. Your HGH could be bunk too. How about trying some other brand of HGH for a month and see how it affects your IGF level.

it is shipped already reconstituted overnight on ice...I open and check the package before I sign for it..I do not shake it..I keep in the fridge...I pre-load and keep under my pillow...(JUST KIDDING!)

My doctor wanted for me to do 3 units ED...my gut told me that 3 was too much...either he is right or the stuff is bunk....he is writing me a script for Nutropin! I am going to try that one for a month to see if there is any difference...I am wondering if Omnitrope is 192aa....afterall

[supe3]

Is your "doc" a anti-aging clinic doc? If so, do you HAVE to get your GH from HIS pharmacy? I have heard about these deals some anti-aging docs have worked with "pharmacy’s" and some have sold fake HGH believe it or not, even real pharmacy’s sometimes get fake stuff to, their is a case where a young boy with GFD has getting fake HGH from a real pharmacy. if you have any concerns about your doc, pharmacy or HGH I would switch them all. but thats just me

[SlimmerMe]

Is your "doc" a anti-aging clinic doc? If so, do you HAVE to get your GH from HIS pharmacy? I have heard about these deals some anti-aging docs have worked with "pharmacy’s" and some have sold fake HGH believe it or not, even real pharmacy’s sometimes get fake stuff to, their is a case where a young boy with GFD has getting fake HGH from a real pharmacy. if you have any concerns about your doc, pharmacy or HGH I would switch them all. but thats just me

Yes....my doc is an Anti-aging doc.... and I have it sent from a reputable pharmacist but the proof will be in the pudding when I switch to TOP PHARMA grade and see what happens....I asked my doc if he thought it could be watered down and he did not think so...and I do not want to think so....I want to give them the benefit of the doubt....I just think Omnitrope might not be good stuff period....but...this experiment of switching will certainly tell....

[supe3]

Yes....my doc is an Anti-aging doc.... and I have it sent from a reputable pharmacist but the proof will be in the pudding when I switch to TOP PHARMA grade and see what happens....I asked my doc if he thought it could be watered down and he did not think so...and I do not want to think so....I want to give them the benefit of the doubt....I just think Omnitrope might not be good stuff period....but...this experiment of switching will certainly tell....

It will only be telling if the nutropin is not fake too though. I have a friend that did omnitrope and he got his in the original vial and it was in powder form. I dont understand why they send it to you reconstituted already? Isn’t it LESS stable reconstituted? For the cost Im sure you are putting out for it I would not be giving ANYONE "the benefit of the doubt"

[supe3]

Also, besides what you read hear on this board and other AAS boards, I have read that omnitrope is the SAME thing as all the rest of the pharm grade HGH and no real difference, in fact i have also heard some insurance companies are requiring people to switch from other brands to omnitrope do to the fact that it is cheaper. my point I guess is that I do not see how it could be just the omnitrope, it has to be fake or not properly shipped, stored or whatever.

[SlimmerMe]

It will only be telling if the nutropin is not fake too though. I have a friend that did omnitrope and he got his in the original vial and it was in powder form. I dont understand why they send it to you reconstituted already? Isn’t it LESS stable reconstituted? For the cost Im sure you are putting out for it I would not be giving ANYONE "the benefit of the doubt"

the Nutropin would be in pen form... directly from Nutropin... to a major pharmacy chain..

[TheShaman]

after 6 months of HGH averaging 1.5 units ED, my IGF-1 level only went up 25 points. So....either Omnitrope is horrible stuff....

OR WHAT??????
I am so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so UPSET!!!!!!!!!

6 months of getting up in the wee hours to pin and back to sleep, or before bed....either way....this is PITIFUL!

ANY IDEAS? PLEASE!

Send me a privste message and we can talk about it...

[SlimmerMe]

Send me a privste message and we can talk about it...

WHAT?????....talk about what???

[SlimmerMe]

Also, besides what you read hear on this board and other AAS boards, I have read that omnitrope is the SAME thing as all the rest of the pharm grade HGH and no real difference, in fact i have also heard some insurance companies are requiring people to switch from other brands to omnitrope do to the fact that it is cheaper. my point I guess is that I do not see how it could be just the omnitrope, it has to be fake or not properly shipped, stored or whatever.

hmmmmm......very interesting....very very interesting indeed....

[TheShaman]

Your problem... I have a fix for you!

[spywizard]

just make sure you do the 1.5 again, otherwise you will not be able to compare it..

I'd love for you to do cjc 1295 and ghrp then do the bloodwork to compare.. you are in a unique position to do just that..

[supe3]

Your problem... I have a fix for you!

like what? buy from you? here fishy fishy fishy

[SlimmerMe]

just make sure you do the 1.5 again, otherwise you will not be able to compare it..

I'd love for you to do cjc 1295 and ghrp then do the bloodwork to compare.. you are in a unique position to do just that..

hi Spywizard....sounds interesting...thanks....could you please elaborate a bit? I am not famliar with this....thanks...I appreciate it...

[frawnz]

Ask your doctor to show you multiple reference numbers for IGF-1 changes on other female clients he has using HGH.

[SlimmerMe]

Ask your doctor to show you multiple reference numbers for IGF-1 changes on other female clients he has using HGH.

Good idea....thanks!

[DCannon]

That sucks to hear Slim, hope the nutropin works out for you.

[SlimmerMe]

That sucks to hear Slim, hope the nutropin works out for you.

I agree....I am going to get the least amount of Nutropin to cross check....to see if it is me...the lower dosing...or the Omnitrope

[supe3]

slim did you ever have the joint problems from the GH?

[SlimmerMe]

slim did you ever have the joint problems from the GH?

no joint problem...but headache..TIRED...Very TIRED...and BLOAT

[dec11]

the number should be a lot more, I would think
I have felt a better sense of well being and better sleep...longer feet..more mass...no BF reduction...and no skin improvement from what all I can tell...

sorry to hear your disappointment. were the basics, such as diet and training on point during the 6mths? my gfriend has been on hgh for almost 6mths now, at first she experienced rapid bf reduction then it grinded to a halt, i tweaked her diet and training and she started losing again, also she has progressed up to 2.5ius pd, she went up .5 evry month. we are on genetropin

[SlimmerMe]

sorry to hear your disappointment. were the basics, such as diet and training on point during the 6mths? my gfriend has been on hgh for almost 6mths now, at first she experienced rapid bf reduction then it grinded to a halt, i tweaked her diet and training and she started losing again, also she has progressed up to 2.5ius pd, she went up .5 evry month. we are on genetropin

thanks for your concern...my training and diet?.. the best ever in my life.....Usually by now I would have lost tons of weight. I am going cold turkey for awhile and see what happens because what I am doing is not working. I have also been on Test ED plus DHEA and lots of other hormones too which could have really affected my goals....so...back to square one. I will miss the SLEEP more than anything.

[dec11]

its a strange one, you seem to be getting some of the positive effects of GH, maybe dose dependant, try upping it a little? i'll let some of the more expvet guys chime in. good luck with it

[SlimmerMe]

its a strange one, you seem to be getting some of the positive effects of GH, maybe dose dependant, try upping it a little? i'll let some of the more expvet guys chime in. good luck with it

my doc wanted for me to take 3 units ED from the get go---but my gut told me not to do so...maybe he was right...but...then again, if I had taken all of what he wanted for me to take I would probably be even bigger....isn't that what BB's want? to get bigger? That was not my plan.... to pop out of my shorts...

[dec11]

my doc wanted for me to take 3 units ED from the get go---but my gut told me not to do so...maybe he was right...but...then again, if I had taken all of what he wanted for me to take I would probably be even bigger....isn't that what BB's want? to get bigger? That was not my plan.... to pop out of my shorts...

well it takes quite alot gh to gain size, plus test is needed also, with it. working your way up to 3ius is sensible rather than just starting at it, my gfriend went up in .5 increments.

[SlimmerMe]

well it takes quite alot gh to gain size, plus test is needed also, with it. working your way up to 3ius is sensible rather than just starting at it, my gfriend went up in .5 increments.

does your girlfriend do test too? I did test all along ( BHRT ) and am wondering if this is what helped to make me bigger....

[LBSOMEIRON]

Post pics . I'll tell you if it's working l

[SlimmerMe]

Post pics . I'll tell you if it's working l

haH,,,,HAH! ...I thought about it...but that thought lasted as long as the thought itself!

[dec11]

does your girlfriend do test too? I did test all along ( BHRT ) and am wondering if this is what helped to make me bigger....

no, she just uses gh and clen etc, no anabolics. test will give you size but its diet dependant, im not well read on its effects on women though.

[lovbyts]

just make sure you do the 1.5 again, otherwise you will not be able to compare it..

I'd love for you to do cjc 1295 and ghrp then do the bloodwork to compare.. you are in a unique position to do just that..

Interesting you should say that. When I was taking HGH a couple years ago after some research I came to the conclusion the CJC 1295 would be a good combination since from what I had read and understood it basically would make the HGH MUCH longer lasting in your system.

I still have 1 un mixed vial of CJC 1295 but no HGH to go with it. lol

WHAT?????....talk about what???

Agreed with others, Fishy Fishy.

[SlimmerMe]

^^^^^^
THANKS for letting me know what CJC 1295 does....appreciate it....now I know!

[NVR2BIG1]

this is why I'm going the GHRP, CJC1295 route. HGH is getting too hit/miss nowadays

[LBSOMEIRON]

GHRP/CJC route (solo) over Growth is like saying 'I'm going to drive a Honda Civic because the 2011 twin-turbo Convertible Porche Carrerra loaded with Italian leather is too expensive'

[Times Roman]

I was reading on the LEF BB that they are recommending 1.5iu/day for purposes of anti-aging......?

[SlimmerMe]

I was reading on the LEF BB that they are recommending 1.5iu/day for purposes of anti-aging......?

sounds right to me....especially for women....