What does a real GH cycle consist of?

**< <Samson> >** · 10-07-2014, 11:28 AM

Alongside with my usual maintenance gear dose.

What's a good dose & duration? Quality is not an issue, it will either be true pharma grade or tested before use.

I have not really considered GH till now. . . But, I am still looking to put on about 10 Lbs. of LBM and lose the same in gristle.

I have heard of all kinds of random shit, 5 days on - 2 days off, 4iu per day, minimum of 10iu a day. < there is damn near zero consistency to this.

**marcus300** · 10-07-2014, 11:34 AM

Don't use anything except pharm grade no matter what you test or what so called people post.

You wont see 10lbs of LBM from gh unless your on it for over 12 months to 24months at around 8-10ius 5 on 2 off or 7 straight.

It works better if use along side AAS,

When using higher dose make sure you use T4,

And again don't use anything except pharm grade DONT NOT BY GENERICS EVEN IF THEY TELL YOU ITS BEEN TESTED.

**< <Samson> >** · 10-07-2014, 11:40 AM

Good good info

What about BW? If it checks out?

Just like test is test - as long as it's clean & dosed semi properly

**marcus300** · 10-07-2014, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Good good info

What about BW? If it checks out?

Just like test is test - as long as it's clean & dosed semi properly

Nothing but pharm grade and in all honesty probably take 2 yrs of solid aas and gh (higher dose) use to achieve your goal

**< <Samson> >** · 10-07-2014, 12:01 PM

I would say discouraging - but, no - more like realistic

Since there's no point to start another thread for one question.

What doses of GH are ran when you're older for anti aging? I'm thinking post 40-45

**marcus300** · 10-07-2014, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

I would say discouraging - but, no - more like realistic

Since there's no point to start another thread for one question.

What doses of GH are ran when you're older for anti aging? I'm thinking post 40-45

Your a lot younger than that thought aren't you!!

2ius is a good replacement dose for anti aging

**< <Samson> >** · 10-07-2014, 12:53 PM

Yup, I'm a decade behind that

Just asking for the long run.

I didn't want to dip into GH, but it kinda came up. I was planning on using it in my mid 40's for anti aging.

**marcus300** · 10-07-2014, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Yup, I'm a decade behind that

Just asking for the long run.

I didn't want to dip into GH, but it kinda came up. I was planning on using it in my mid 40's for anti aging.

hahaha go eat some steak or something, your years away from gh then lol

**smiler** · 10-07-2014, 01:41 PM

Hey Marcus. Just curious why you say no generics? Lately I seen some very respected Bros bragging about a few different brands. Not pharmacy.

**marcus300** · 10-07-2014, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by smiler

Hey Marcus. Just curious why you say no generics? Lately I seen some very respected Bros bragging about a few different brands. Not pharmacy.

Bceuase they are complete crap, most contain growth releasing peps, anti diuretic hormone or some other chemical what mimic's gh sides. Don't believe all the lab reports from so called forums they are just reps pushing crap fakes. Stay clear.

**smiler** · 10-07-2014, 01:50 PM

Hey Marcus. Just curious why you say no generics? Lately I seen some very respected Bros bragging about a few different brands. Not pharmacy.

**marcus300** · 10-07-2014, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by smiler

Hey Marcus. Just curious why you say no generics? Lately I seen some very respected Bros bragging about a few different brands. Not pharmacy.

I answered you

**< <Samson> >** · 10-07-2014, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Bceuase they are complete crap, most contain growth releasing peps, anti diuretic hormone or some other chemical what mimic's gh sides. Don't believe all the lab reports from so called forums they are just reps pushing crap fakes. Stay clear.

Good good info

My other issue is the so called Pharma Grade shit I can get my hands on just reeks of counterfeit

Sucks ass - Juice in most cases is way more simple than GH

**lovbyts** · 10-08-2014, 02:34 AM

I was on RX HGH for a little over 1yr. I was only using 1iu most of the time except for a couple of months when I bumped it up to around 4iu using Generics but this was before the China Olympics and I bought them over seas. I did not gain any size per say but I had some good fat loss, felt better and tones up.

As for the protocol such as 5 on 2 off there is one main reason for this. $$$$ If you want best results us it 7 days a week.

No argument with anything Marcus had to say.

**smiler** · 10-11-2014, 10:54 AM

lol easy there..... no idea y that posted twice.

your answer seems the obvious but true about most any substance certainly theres a good test. i would think if one tested his own IGF levels pre and post it should be justified. agree?

**< <Samson> >** · 10-11-2014, 07:55 PM

My question now is: Can HGH be substituted with IGF-1? IGF-1 is cheap as fvck compared to HGH & from what I understand will raise IGF levels in the same manner.

**lovbyts** · 10-11-2014, 11:43 PM

Yes and no. It will raise IGF-1 levels of course but that's what makes HGH so hard to tell if it's real or not because it does so much more that cant be measured and IGF-1 wont do.

There is no substitution if you can get Legit pharmacy HGH. It's the biggest bang for the buck but that's the tricky part.

**< <Samson> >** · 10-12-2014, 09:34 PM

But, that's my point - Generics can't be tested for full true legitimacyt

It's not like test - go get your levels pulled - cool, you got good real test

With generic GH, I swear you're just getting IGF-1. It checks out on basic BW, it's cheap as fvck - and the faker cashes in

So true pharma GH is the only way - But, how in the hell can a normal person afford that shit?

**Mp859** · 10-12-2014, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

My question now is: Can HGH be substituted with IGF-1? IGF-1 is cheap as fvck compared to HGH & from what I understand will raise IGF levels in the same manner.

Synthetic igf-1,not lr3 or des, is even harder to come by than legit HGH. It also costs more than growth. Lr3 and des and junk. IMO if you could get you hands on legit IGF and HGH and run them together, nothing would compare.

**Mp859** · 10-12-2014, 10:02 PM

I do know there is a lot of 192aa hgh out there.

**jooney** · 10-13-2014, 09:27 AM

It's nice to see a guy like Marcus on here. I've read many of his posts, and he is always dead on (in my opinion) with everything he says. He knows his stuff, and shares his knowledge. Thanks brother.

**< <Samson> >** · 10-13-2014, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by jooney

It's nice to see a guy like Marcus on here. I've read many of his posts, and he is always dead on (in my opinion) with everything he says. He knows his stuff, and shares his knowledge. Thanks brother.

Where can I get a groupie or 2

**lovbyts** · 10-14-2014, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Where can I get a groupie or 2

You can have beardedturkey.

**maddad** · 10-16-2014, 02:46 PM

what is the suggested testing protocol? ie inject 5iu IM wait three hours pull blood

are we saying that other compounds or factors will skew the testing?