My first DNP journey.

[mitch428cj]

yup yup! i lost around 7 lbs in 12 days that is more than decent. i wanted to extend but it was not worth it. i will take a 2 week break and do another cycle in 2 weeks but this time il keep it to around 8 days.

as to your comment on people losing more when their used to dnp, what do you mean? you mean on my 2nd or 3rd dnp cycle my body will be more used to dnp and more efficiently burn fat as compared to my 1st?

what i mean by that is when you get it downpacked ie. dosage perfected up to to 600mg , training perfected , diet perfected , timing , to DNP use , then your results will be better than when you first started because you will be using it to its full potential

[mitch428cj]

here is some more info that might help you on your next run at it

[mitch428cj]

Boasting an astounding 50% increase in metabolic rate, DNP is the most effective fat burner that bodybuilders are using today to melt away the last amounts of diet resilient fat on their physiques. For comparison purposes, the ECA stack, which is also a highly effective fat loss tool, produces only a 3% increase in metabolic rate. Athletes reporting fat losses of 10-12 pounds in 8 days of use have further added to the DNP mystique. However, DNP is also the deadliest substance used in bodybuilding - so deadly, that it has killed athletes including one member of Elite Fitness.

In this issue of Elite Fitness News, I?ll tell you more about DNP, share the precautions you should take if you decide to use it, and give you the reasons why you should avoid it in favor of other diet drugs and supplements that are not nearly so dangerous.
DNP or 2,4-Dinitrophenol, (Pronounced die ni'tro fe' nolz) is an industrial chemical with various applications such as making dyes, wood preservatives, explosives, insect control substances, other chemicals, and as a photographic developer. Sold under several trade names, including Caswell No. 392, Sulfo Black B, and Nitro Kleenup, DNP has recently gained steady popularity as a fat loss tool.

DNP was used in diet pills in the 1930s, but was banned for this use in 1938. Classified as an "uncoupler of oxidative phosphorylation," medically, DNP is quite dangerous. You see, the body has no negative feedback system that may deal with overdoses. Specifically, there is no upper limit to the increase in body temperature that may be obtained with DNP?s use.

The following article combines several theories to form what is perhaps the single best way to cycle DNP for maximum fat-loss benefits. As I mentioned earlier, DNP can be deadly and I would never use it myself nor would I ever recommend that anyone ingest it. The casual use of DNP for dieting is ridiculous. Hearing reports of athletes using DNP before trying a Cyclical Ketogenic Diet, legal diet supplements, and medically supervised weight loss drugs is crazy. Here are a few links to effective weight loss supplements, drugs, and strategies that are much safer than DNP and are certainly a much better alternative for all but the most elite bodybuilders.

That said, if an athlete makes the personal decision to use DNP, it is possible to take precautions to maximize its benefits and minimize the potential risks.

The 7-day DNP fat loss inferno cycle:

The 7-day DNP fat loss inferno cycle involves a moderate to high dosage of DNP for fat burning. The DNP fat loss inferno involves a 7-day on, 7-day off approach with four distinct phases. Most athletes using DNP follow this type of cycle. The phases are as follows:

Phase 1: The 3-day Carb-Depletion Phase.
Phase 2: The 1-day Thyroxine (T3) Re-normalization Phase.
Phase 3: The 14-day DNP Inferno Phase.
Phase 4: The 2-day Post-DNP Phase.

Phase 1. The 3-day Carb-depletion phase
Phase One has a three-day duration and begins the four days preceding the ingestion of DNP. The purpose of this phase is to deplete muscle-glycogen content by restricting carbohydrates. This is achieved through a Ketogenic style diet.

Kcals should be restricted to 10-12 times bodyweight in lbs. And carbohydrates should be restricted to less than 60g/day. Protein is consumed at 1 gram per pound of bodyweight or higher and the remaining dietary calories should come from fat.

This phase lasts exactly 3 days, and will reduce muscle-glycogen levels so that the body is forced to rely on fat as fuel more readily when you start your DNP cycle.

Phase 2 The 1-day Thyroxine (T3) Re-normalization Phase
This is a new concept for DNP dieting. During the past three days, the athlete has restricted carbohydrates and as a direct consequence T4-T3 conversion is slowed down resulting in reduced T3 levels. This is bad for the DNP phase, as you need enough active T3 to last throughout the entire 7-day on DNP phase.

Day four of the DNP cycle involves a mega-carbohydrate meal at mid-afternoon (4-6PM) designed to create a massive insulin spike and re-normalize T4-T3. This concept has been extrapolated from ketogenic diets and has been shown to dramatically increase serum concentrations of T3.

Day 4 involves Keto eating until the Mega-carb meal. Then in the late afternoon, at least circa 250g of carbohydrates must be consumed to create an insulin spike. Any sugar (fructose, sucrose, maltose etc.) is fair game. Fructose in particular is good because it primarily re-fills liver glycogen which is directly involved in T4-T3 conversion. (Empty liver glycogen signals the thyroid to decrease T4-T3 conversion).

As a side-note, a 250g carb-meal after three days of Keto dieting creates a more pronounced insulin spike than would a 250g carb-meal after three days of normal eating.

Kcals during Phase 2 should be kept at 15X Bodyweight in lbs. Macro-nutrient break-downs can be calculated by the athlete. The only carb intake on day 4 should be the 250g carb-meal.

Phase 3 The 14-Day DNP Phase

The first two days of actual DNP consumption are the most important to follow correctly. During Days 1 and 2 of the actual DNP portion of the cycle, it must be determined if the athlete will have an allergic reaction to DNP.

Day 1: 200 mg of DNP is ingested
Day 2: 200 mg of DNP is ingested

At this point the dieter should be able to assess if an allergic reaction has occurred. A DNP-stimulated allergic reaction will lead to swelling in as little as 1 to 2 days time. Approximately 10% of athletes will have such a reaction. The unfortunate few who experience this type of a reaction must terminate the cycle immediately. Benadryl or Ketotifen (Anti-histamines) can be used to treat mild symptoms. Obviously a doctor should be consulted should the symptoms prove more severe.

Day 3: Dieters making it to day 3 of the DNP phase have the option of increasing their dosage. The normal dosage for beginners is 400mg DNP/day. Even an amount this small should provide outstanding results. A word of caution. DO NOT TAKE MORE, if you are not experienced with DNP-use. More advanced users may chose to go higher based on past experience.
The 400mg/day dosage is maintained from Day 3 through Day 9(Exactly 7 days). The last dose is taken on Day 9.

Supplementation and Nutritional Protocol for a DNP cycle:

1. An ECA stack is beneficial while on a DNP cycle as it as it acts as an anorectant. DNP raises Neuro-peptide Y levels in the brain, which is directly linked to increased hunger. Consuming 75-100mg total of ephedrine alkaloids/day should be sufficient to suppress appetite. PPA (Nor-ephedrine) should NOT be used as it causes lethargy when combined with DNP.

2. Anti-oxidants. Due to the DNP induced rapid combustion of fats, free-radical production skyrockets up-wards. To combat this, anti-oxidants must be used. Anti-oxidants are the single most important supplement to take on a DNP cycle.

a) Fat-soluble Anti-O: Vitamin E: 1000mgs/day
b) Water-soluble Anti-O: Vitamin C: 2-3g/day
c) Alpha Lipoic acid: 600-1000mgs/day

Dual-anti-oxidant: BOTH fat & water-soluble actually re-cycles other anti-oxidants.

3. Glycerol: Although optional, glycerol is often consumed at 15ml's 3X/day. Glycerol increases hydration for many athletes.
No additional supplements are really required other than these three. All the rest you have read in various DNP articles are more for peace of mind than improved functionality. I consider them overkill.

4. Water: Not a supplement, but an absolute necessity.
DNP causes sweating and can be incredibly dehydrating. Dehydration is the NUMBER ONE cause of most DNP problems and deaths. Excessive dehydration results in over-heating. Dieters who do not replenish fluids properly while on a DNP cycle could die. The consensus among athletes is that at least two gallons of water must be consumed daily.

5. EAT FRUIT while on your DNP cycle.

Fruit for some reason has been found to greatly reduce the lethargy associated with a DNP cycle. It also has a high water content, therefore it helps to keep the dieter hydrated. Watermelon is an obvious recommendation.

6. Dietary intake: There are several schools of thought on this matter, but sticking to the old standard always works.
Kcals should be kept anywhere from 10-15X Bodyweight in lbs. Macro-nutrient break-downs should be kept at around 20% fat, 30% protein and 50% carbs. (Changing the ratios in favor of more carbs and protein w/ less fat will result in a more fat loss but nothing special. Also, remember that more carbohydrates means more heat.)

Take for example the 220 lb (100 kg) bodybuilder. He would consume anywhere from 2200 to 3300Kcal /day (Depending on his appetite control).

WHAT NOT TO DO on a DNP cycle.

a) Do not under any circumstances consume alcohol or ANY type of diuretic while on a DNP cycle. Alcohol and diuretics will dehydrate you and can cause SERIOUS problems.
b) Do not remain in a hot environment without replenishing fluid loss due to perspiration. This too can also cause SERIOUS problems.
c) Do not begin with a high dosage of DNP if you are a novice. This is just asking for a trip to the ICU.

The half-life of 2,4 Dinitrophenol is 36 hours. So, after 36 hours, there is only 50% of the DNP remaining in your system. Therefore, 72 hours later 25% remains. Then 12.5% remains after 108 hours. After 5 days (120 hours), there's roughly 9% of the DNP left in your body that you had on Day 9. This DNP concentration is low-enough to allow you to begin Phase 4 of the cycle -- the 2-day Post-DNP phase -- without compromising glycogen synthesis rates. Kcals during Days 10-14 should remain the same as during days 3-9.

Phase 4: The 2 day Post DNP Phase.

The whole purpose of this phase is to get muscle-glycogen levels back to normal. The Ketogenic carb-up can be used as a sort of template for this phase.

After Phases two and three, muscle-glycogen levels are depressed and need to be replenished.

Day 15: Carb-intake should be 7g/Kg of LBM (lean body mass = bodyweight minus body fat.) So assuming a 220 lb bodybuilder has 0% body fat, lol, he would consume 700 g of Carbs. Protein-intake remains at 1g/lb and fat is restricted as low as possible.
The focus on day 1 should be on High-GI foods like Fat-free Ice-cream and all the other non-fat high sugar desserts. Calories should be around 4000 for the 220-lb bodybuilder -- in other words, 18X bodyweight in lbs.

Drastically restricting fat is CRITICAL here, as the body is still burning fat for fuel as you replenish your glycogen stores. In essence, the dieter is still losing fat while carbing up.

Day 16: Muscle-glycogen has increased, so carb-intake should be decreased from day one?s 7g/Kg to only 5g/Kg of LBM. That would be 500g for our 220-lb bodybuilder. Protein is 1g/lb again. Fat remains as low as possible. Kcals for the dieter are reduced to 3000 Kcal range, or around 14X Bodyweight in lbs. The focus of Day 2 should be low-GI foods like vegetables, milk, lean meats etc.

Additional Precautions:

Dieters feeling extremely nauseated or who vomit during a cycle should discontinue use immediately and not restart for at least 36 hours.

Dieters should carry a pocket thermometer at all times. If body temperature rises above 102 Fahrenheit then the dosage should be lowered or the cycles should be terminated. Additionally, the dieter should take a very cold bath to lower the temperature.
In addition to water, V8 juice should be consumed. Drinking gallons of water depletes the body of electrolytes pretty badly predisposing the dieter to shock, nausea, lethargy, and even death. V8 is the best for replenishing electrolytes as it contains 950mg of potassium per 8oz compared to Gatorade?s 35mg of potassium in 8oz.

Massive amounts of fruits and sweets should be consumed if one becomes nauseated or vomits - i.e. force feed yourself.
Dieters should never allow themselves to become overheated on a DNP cycle. Always stay next to a fan and keep the air conditioner on. Do not attempt a DNP cycle if you work out doors in a warm climate or another warm environment like a kitchen. Even at low doses this can build up and be potentially dangerous.

There are two versions of DNP - regular and crystalline. Know which one you are taking. When taking the crystalline DNP caps, never take more than 200mg at once if you've never used it before. Even if you are used to it, it is still much safer to spread the dosage throughout the day. Crystalline DNP is much faster acting and can rapidly elevate temperature.

Post-Steroid Cycle Use of DNP

One of the primary causes of muscle breakdown after a steroid cycle is suppressed TSH. Anabolic steroids suppress TSH, which in turn lowers T3 and T4 production by the thyroid gland. The reduction in TSH is one reason that anabolic steroids are such excellent muscle builders.

Soon after the completion of a steroid cycle, TSH up-regulates, which in turn super-stimulates the thyroid. This excess stimulation causes the thyroid to produce above normal levels of T3 and T4. This increase in thyroid hormones is highly catabolic and is the main reason why people lose muscle post-cycle.

Athletes have learned that they need to restrict T3 production post cycle to prevent muscle loss. A novel approach to achieving this goal is the use of DNP. About 80% of the body?s endogenous T3 is produced from the metabolically inactive T4 to the metabolically active T3. The de-iodinase enzyme is responsible for this conversion. It literally cleaves off an iodine molecule.
By ingesting 200mg DNP/day, the athlete can correct the over stimulated Thyroid, returning T3 levels back to normal. DNP directly blocks the production of T3 from T4 via the de-iodinase enzyme.

As a bonus, the reduction in your ATP stores because of the DNP is counter acted by an increase in the oxidation of triglycerides as an energy source. The benefit is the elimination of any potential fat-gain from the low post-cycle testosterone levels . And as DNP is non-hormonal, it has no effect on HPTA recovery.

After cessation of DNP use post-cycle, the athlete will reap the benefits of the "Anabolic Rebound Effect" which further lends credence to the use of DNP as a post-cycle ancillary for the elimination of any post-cycle muscular losses.

Macro?s DNP Supplements

200mg alpha lipoic acid 3x a day with meals
1200-1500mg magnesium in 2-3 divided doses.
2-3000mg vitamin C
1200IU of vitamin E
200mcg of selenium.
1000-2000mg of calcium (can?t take it with the magnesium, though. Take it before bed)
Melatonin if you can?t sleep and it is also one of the best and cheapest anti-oxidants.
50mg of zinc a day
one iron tab as hemoglobin is a protein as well.
A potassium gluconate tab or two a day
Taurine at 3g a day.
Glutamine at 15g-20g a day .
1 table spoon glycerol 3 x a day
at least 2 gallons of water
a fan to point at your head while sleeping- or at work- basically anytime you can point a fan at you
500mg grapeseed extract
300mg cranberry extract
600-900mg of green tea
a good mulit vitamin
EC+1g of tyrosine 3x per day and 20mg of yohimbine topically 2x per day- for added energy and fat burning effects

[Spoon]

Boasting an astounding 50% increase in metabolic rate, DNP is the most effective fat burner that bodybuilders are using today to melt away the last amounts of diet resilient fat on their physiques. For comparison purposes, the ECA stack, which is also a highly effective fat loss tool, produces only a 3% increase in metabolic rate. Athletes reporting fat losses of 10-12 pounds in 8 days of use have further added to the DNP mystique. However, DNP is also the deadliest substance used in bodybuilding - so deadly, that it has killed athletes including one member of Elite Fitness.

In this issue of Elite Fitness News, I?ll tell you more about DNP, share the precautions you should take if you decide to use it, and give you the reasons why you should avoid it in favor of other diet drugs and supplements that are not nearly so dangerous.
DNP or 2,4-Dinitrophenol, (Pronounced die ni'tro fe' nolz) is an industrial chemical with various applications such as making dyes, wood preservatives, explosives, insect control substances, other chemicals, and as a photographic developer. Sold under several trade names, including Caswell No. 392, Sulfo Black B, and Nitro Kleenup, DNP has recently gained steady popularity as a fat loss tool.

DNP was used in diet pills in the 1930s, but was banned for this use in 1938. Classified as an "uncoupler of oxidative phosphorylation," medically, DNP is quite dangerous. You see, the body has no negative feedback system that may deal with overdoses. Specifically, there is no upper limit to the increase in body temperature that may be obtained with DNP?s use.

The following article combines several theories to form what is perhaps the single best way to cycle DNP for maximum fat-loss benefits. As I mentioned earlier, DNP can be deadly and I would never use it myself nor would I ever recommend that anyone ingest it. The casual use of DNP for dieting is ridiculous. Hearing reports of athletes using DNP before trying a Cyclical Ketogenic Diet, legal diet supplements, and medically supervised weight loss drugs is crazy. Here are a few links to effective weight loss supplements, drugs, and strategies that are much safer than DNP and are certainly a much better alternative for all but the most elite bodybuilders.

That said, if an athlete makes the personal decision to use DNP, it is possible to take precautions to maximize its benefits and minimize the potential risks.

The 7-day DNP fat loss inferno cycle:

The 7-day DNP fat loss inferno cycle involves a moderate to high dosage of DNP for fat burning. The DNP fat loss inferno involves a 7-day on, 7-day off approach with four distinct phases. Most athletes using DNP follow this type of cycle. The phases are as follows:

Phase 1: The 3-day Carb-Depletion Phase.
Phase 2: The 1-day Thyroxine (T3) Re-normalization Phase.
Phase 3: The 14-day DNP Inferno Phase.
Phase 4: The 2-day Post-DNP Phase.

Phase 1. The 3-day Carb-depletion phase
Phase One has a three-day duration and begins the four days preceding the ingestion of DNP. The purpose of this phase is to deplete muscle-glycogen content by restricting carbohydrates. This is achieved through a Ketogenic style diet.

Kcals should be restricted to 10-12 times bodyweight in lbs. And carbohydrates should be restricted to less than 60g/day. Protein is consumed at 1 gram per pound of bodyweight or higher and the remaining dietary calories should come from fat.

This phase lasts exactly 3 days, and will reduce muscle-glycogen levels so that the body is forced to rely on fat as fuel more readily when you start your DNP cycle.

Phase 2 The 1-day Thyroxine (T3) Re-normalization Phase
This is a new concept for DNP dieting. During the past three days, the athlete has restricted carbohydrates and as a direct consequence T4-T3 conversion is slowed down resulting in reduced T3 levels. This is bad for the DNP phase, as you need enough active T3 to last throughout the entire 7-day on DNP phase.

Day four of the DNP cycle involves a mega-carbohydrate meal at mid-afternoon (4-6PM) designed to create a massive insulin spike and re-normalize T4-T3. This concept has been extrapolated from ketogenic diets and has been shown to dramatically increase serum concentrations of T3.

Day 4 involves Keto eating until the Mega-carb meal. Then in the late afternoon, at least circa 250g of carbohydrates must be consumed to create an insulin spike. Any sugar (fructose, sucrose, maltose etc.) is fair game. Fructose in particular is good because it primarily re-fills liver glycogen which is directly involved in T4-T3 conversion. (Empty liver glycogen signals the thyroid to decrease T4-T3 conversion).

As a side-note, a 250g carb-meal after three days of Keto dieting creates a more pronounced insulin spike than would a 250g carb-meal after three days of normal eating.

Kcals during Phase 2 should be kept at 15X Bodyweight in lbs. Macro-nutrient break-downs can be calculated by the athlete. The only carb intake on day 4 should be the 250g carb-meal.

Phase 3 The 14-Day DNP Phase

The first two days of actual DNP consumption are the most important to follow correctly. During Days 1 and 2 of the actual DNP portion of the cycle, it must be determined if the athlete will have an allergic reaction to DNP.

Day 1: 200 mg of DNP is ingested
Day 2: 200 mg of DNP is ingested

At this point the dieter should be able to assess if an allergic reaction has occurred. A DNP-stimulated allergic reaction will lead to swelling in as little as 1 to 2 days time. Approximately 10% of athletes will have such a reaction. The unfortunate few who experience this type of a reaction must terminate the cycle immediately. Benadryl or Ketotifen (Anti-histamines) can be used to treat mild symptoms. Obviously a doctor should be consulted should the symptoms prove more severe.

Day 3: Dieters making it to day 3 of the DNP phase have the option of increasing their dosage. The normal dosage for beginners is 400mg DNP/day. Even an amount this small should provide outstanding results. A word of caution. DO NOT TAKE MORE, if you are not experienced with DNP-use. More advanced users may chose to go higher based on past experience.
The 400mg/day dosage is maintained from Day 3 through Day 9(Exactly 7 days). The last dose is taken on Day 9.

Supplementation and Nutritional Protocol for a DNP cycle:

1. An ECA stack is beneficial while on a DNP cycle as it as it acts as an anorectant. DNP raises Neuro-peptide Y levels in the brain, which is directly linked to increased hunger. Consuming 75-100mg total of ephedrine alkaloids/day should be sufficient to suppress appetite. PPA (Nor-ephedrine) should NOT be used as it causes lethargy when combined with DNP.

2. Anti-oxidants. Due to the DNP induced rapid combustion of fats, free-radical production skyrockets up-wards. To combat this, anti-oxidants must be used. Anti-oxidants are the single most important supplement to take on a DNP cycle.

a) Fat-soluble Anti-O: Vitamin E: 1000mgs/day
b) Water-soluble Anti-O: Vitamin C: 2-3g/day
c) Alpha Lipoic acid: 600-1000mgs/day

Dual-anti-oxidant: BOTH fat & water-soluble actually re-cycles other anti-oxidants.

3. Glycerol: Although optional, glycerol is often consumed at 15ml's 3X/day. Glycerol increases hydration for many athletes.
No additional supplements are really required other than these three. All the rest you have read in various DNP articles are more for peace of mind than improved functionality. I consider them overkill.

4. Water: Not a supplement, but an absolute necessity.
DNP causes sweating and can be incredibly dehydrating. Dehydration is the NUMBER ONE cause of most DNP problems and deaths. Excessive dehydration results in over-heating. Dieters who do not replenish fluids properly while on a DNP cycle could die. The consensus among athletes is that at least two gallons of water must be consumed daily.

5. EAT FRUIT while on your DNP cycle.

Fruit for some reason has been found to greatly reduce the lethargy associated with a DNP cycle. It also has a high water content, therefore it helps to keep the dieter hydrated. Watermelon is an obvious recommendation.

6. Dietary intake: There are several schools of thought on this matter, but sticking to the old standard always works.
Kcals should be kept anywhere from 10-15X Bodyweight in lbs. Macro-nutrient break-downs should be kept at around 20% fat, 30% protein and 50% carbs. (Changing the ratios in favor of more carbs and protein w/ less fat will result in a more fat loss but nothing special. Also, remember that more carbohydrates means more heat.)

Take for example the 220 lb (100 kg) bodybuilder. He would consume anywhere from 2200 to 3300Kcal /day (Depending on his appetite control).

WHAT NOT TO DO on a DNP cycle.

a) Do not under any circumstances consume alcohol or ANY type of diuretic while on a DNP cycle. Alcohol and diuretics will dehydrate you and can cause SERIOUS problems.
b) Do not remain in a hot environment without replenishing fluid loss due to perspiration. This too can also cause SERIOUS problems.
c) Do not begin with a high dosage of DNP if you are a novice. This is just asking for a trip to the ICU.

The half-life of 2,4 Dinitrophenol is 36 hours. So, after 36 hours, there is only 50% of the DNP remaining in your system. Therefore, 72 hours later 25% remains. Then 12.5% remains after 108 hours. After 5 days (120 hours), there's roughly 9% of the DNP left in your body that you had on Day 9. This DNP concentration is low-enough to allow you to begin Phase 4 of the cycle -- the 2-day Post-DNP phase -- without compromising glycogen synthesis rates. Kcals during Days 10-14 should remain the same as during days 3-9.

Phase 4: The 2 day Post DNP Phase.

The whole purpose of this phase is to get muscle-glycogen levels back to normal. The Ketogenic carb-up can be used as a sort of template for this phase.

After Phases two and three, muscle-glycogen levels are depressed and need to be replenished.

Day 15: Carb-intake should be 7g/Kg of LBM (lean body mass = bodyweight minus body fat.) So assuming a 220 lb bodybuilder has 0% body fat, lol, he would consume 700 g of Carbs. Protein-intake remains at 1g/lb and fat is restricted as low as possible.
The focus on day 1 should be on High-GI foods like Fat-free Ice-cream and all the other non-fat high sugar desserts. Calories should be around 4000 for the 220-lb bodybuilder -- in other words, 18X bodyweight in lbs.

Drastically restricting fat is CRITICAL here, as the body is still burning fat for fuel as you replenish your glycogen stores. In essence, the dieter is still losing fat while carbing up.

Day 16: Muscle-glycogen has increased, so carb-intake should be decreased from day one?s 7g/Kg to only 5g/Kg of LBM. That would be 500g for our 220-lb bodybuilder. Protein is 1g/lb again. Fat remains as low as possible. Kcals for the dieter are reduced to 3000 Kcal range, or around 14X Bodyweight in lbs. The focus of Day 2 should be low-GI foods like vegetables, milk, lean meats etc.

Additional Precautions:

Dieters feeling extremely nauseated or who vomit during a cycle should discontinue use immediately and not restart for at least 36 hours.

Dieters should carry a pocket thermometer at all times. If body temperature rises above 102 Fahrenheit then the dosage should be lowered or the cycles should be terminated. Additionally, the dieter should take a very cold bath to lower the temperature.
In addition to water, V8 juice should be consumed. Drinking gallons of water depletes the body of electrolytes pretty badly predisposing the dieter to shock, nausea, lethargy, and even death. V8 is the best for replenishing electrolytes as it contains 950mg of potassium per 8oz compared to Gatorade?s 35mg of potassium in 8oz.

Massive amounts of fruits and sweets should be consumed if one becomes nauseated or vomits - i.e. force feed yourself.
Dieters should never allow themselves to become overheated on a DNP cycle. Always stay next to a fan and keep the air conditioner on. Do not attempt a DNP cycle if you work out doors in a warm climate or another warm environment like a kitchen. Even at low doses this can build up and be potentially dangerous.

There are two versions of DNP - regular and crystalline. Know which one you are taking. When taking the crystalline DNP caps, never take more than 200mg at once if you've never used it before. Even if you are used to it, it is still much safer to spread the dosage throughout the day. Crystalline DNP is much faster acting and can rapidly elevate temperature.

Post-Steroid Cycle Use of DNP

One of the primary causes of muscle breakdown after a steroid cycle is suppressed TSH. Anabolic steroids suppress TSH, which in turn lowers T3 and T4 production by the thyroid gland. The reduction in TSH is one reason that anabolic steroids are such excellent muscle builders.

Soon after the completion of a steroid cycle, TSH up-regulates, which in turn super-stimulates the thyroid. This excess stimulation causes the thyroid to produce above normal levels of T3 and T4. This increase in thyroid hormones is highly catabolic and is the main reason why people lose muscle post-cycle.

Athletes have learned that they need to restrict T3 production post cycle to prevent muscle loss. A novel approach to achieving this goal is the use of DNP. About 80% of the body?s endogenous T3 is produced from the metabolically inactive T4 to the metabolically active T3. The de-iodinase enzyme is responsible for this conversion. It literally cleaves off an iodine molecule.
By ingesting 200mg DNP/day, the athlete can correct the over stimulated Thyroid, returning T3 levels back to normal. DNP directly blocks the production of T3 from T4 via the de-iodinase enzyme.

As a bonus, the reduction in your ATP stores because of the DNP is counter acted by an increase in the oxidation of triglycerides as an energy source. The benefit is the elimination of any potential fat-gain from the low post-cycle testosterone levels . And as DNP is non-hormonal, it has no effect on HPTA recovery.

After cessation of DNP use post-cycle, the athlete will reap the benefits of the "Anabolic Rebound Effect" which further lends credence to the use of DNP as a post-cycle ancillary for the elimination of any post-cycle muscular losses.

Macro?s DNP Supplements

200mg alpha lipoic acid 3x a day with meals
1200-1500mg magnesium in 2-3 divided doses.
2-3000mg vitamin C
1200IU of vitamin E
200mcg of selenium.
1000-2000mg of calcium (can?t take it with the magnesium, though. Take it before bed)
Melatonin if you can?t sleep and it is also one of the best and cheapest anti-oxidants.
50mg of zinc a day
one iron tab as hemoglobin is a protein as well.
A potassium gluconate tab or two a day
Taurine at 3g a day.
Glutamine at 15g-20g a day .
1 table spoon glycerol 3 x a day
at least 2 gallons of water
a fan to point at your head while sleeping- or at work- basically anytime you can point a fan at you
500mg grapeseed extract
300mg cranberry extract
600-900mg of green tea
a good mulit vitamin
EC+1g of tyrosine 3x per day and 20mg of yohimbine topically 2x per day- for added energy and fat burning effects

thanks bro, lotta useful information!

[Spoon]

Ive been off dnp since sunday but i still have a hard time waking up and still get shortness of breath. there still dnp in my system?

[ddoublevision]

"After 5 days (120 hours), there's roughly 9% of the DNP left in your body that you had on Day 9."

Someone stated at Meso that dnp stays in you system for about 21 days(traces). Not sure how accurate that is but I would say a decent amount would be in there for at least a week IMO.

[Spoon]

"After 5 days (120 hours), there's roughly 9% of the DNP left in your body that you had on Day 9."

Someone stated at Meso that dnp stays in you system for about 21 days(traces). Not sure how accurate that is but I would say a decent amount would be in there for at least a week IMO.

yup thats what i figured. thanks!

[Spoon]

had a really great workout today. only noticed that their is some residual heat in my body. my muscles are finally full again and all i can say is that i have never looked so define. my muscles are nice and shapely and i have also become vascular.

for my 2nd go which is on monday, wondering if i really need to carb deplete coz was really looking forward to cheat day on sunday. hoping on finally losing my lower gut, my top abdomen is already nice and shapely. ive lost a total of 9.5 lbs. another 5-7 lbs would be perfect.

still have some fat pockets on my lovehandles and upper back. the dnp seems to ignore these areas. weird.

[xith]

To add something about it being bad for females, I found some ads on google that said.. Well the first one said that there was an experiment done on 500 women of all sizes, 10% of those women developed cataracts and went blind. On the other hand, there was another site that said that had happened but was proven to be false. I think one of the posts are on this forum some where, I looked but lost the articals.

It's a 50/50 say here, but I'll keep looking. I'm female and got some DNP and want to try it. I've been doing a lot of research on it, so far I haven't really found anything on it being harmful to females if used properly.

Any comments, or tips - email me at [email protected]

Thanks,
xith

[Spoon]

weighed myself this morning and lost a total of 10 lbs from my dnp cycle. people in the gym have noticed how defined i look but they commented that i lost size. girth of my arms are smaller. wondering if this is all just fat loss or did i lose some muscle as well. i am really worried and paranoid about it. Strenghth is 85% of my peak when i was bulking and at my biggest. should i be worried?

[mitch428cj]

DNP goes after fat , i dont think you should be worried , if you ever wanted to try something different than DNP try a Test. Prop cycle with Clen /ECA stack it works very well for fat loss and isnt as dangerous as DNP , the prop keeps your muscle from being burned while the clen/ECA attack fat , if you look in the article above it tells you how to eat during your DNP cycle to help it use fat more easily

[LightWeightBaby]

what were your stats before your cycle, weight, bf and so on

[Whinnie]

Noticed something interesting, although i am not sweating yet, i noticed that my urine always has a light yellowish tint to it no matter how much water i drink. anyone else notice this?

yellow body fluids are typical with 24dnp...i'm a chemist and i'm trying to get up the nerve to use my 24dnp...i guess knowin' chem is working against me here...you got THE balls dude! reading about you is giving me the nerve boost i've been looking for...you RULE man!

Whinnie

[Whinnie]

weighed myself this morning and lost a total of 10 lbs from my dnp cycle. people in the gym have noticed how defined i look but they commented that i lost size. girth of my arms are smaller. wondering if this is all just fat loss or did i lose some muscle as well. i am really worried and paranoid about it. Strenghth is 85% of my peak when i was bulking and at my biggest. should i be worried?

I DON'T THINK SO...24DNP IS VERY STRESSING TOO THE BODY...WHAT YOU'RE PROB. FEELING IS A TEMP ATP WEAKNESS...YOU'RE RUNNING MORE ON FAT THAN ATP FOR NOW, WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT AND THE CHEM STRESS FADES YOU'LL BE AT 100% AGAIN. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DROP ALL THE WEIGHT IN ONE CYCLE YOU KNOW...DROP 1/2 AND DO THE REST ABOUT A MONTH LATER...AND REMEMBER, YOU'RE HOLDING WATER RIGHT NOW THAT YOU WILL LOSE WHEN YOU GO OFF THE DNP ...YOU'RE ACTUALLY SEVERAL POUNDS LIGHTER THAN THE SCALES ARE TELLING YOU...WHEN YOU GET 1/2 TO WHERE YOU WANT TO BE STOP AND LET THE WATER PASS FOR A FEW DAYS AND WEIGH YOURSELF AGAIN.

W.

[Spoon]

what were your stats before your cycle, weight, bf and so on

i lost around 10lbs in 12 days. i was around 16% bf. now i estimate im around 9-10%. not bad for 12 days

[Spoon]

I DON'T THINK SO...24DNP IS VERY STRESSING TOO THE BODY...WHAT YOU'RE PROB. FEELING IS A TEMP ATP WEAKNESS...YOU'RE RUNNING MORE ON FAT THAN ATP FOR NOW, WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT AND THE CHEM STRESS FADES YOU'LL BE AT 100% AGAIN. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DROP ALL THE WEIGHT IN ONE CYCLE YOU KNOW...DROP 1/2 AND DO THE REST ABOUT A MONTH LATER...AND REMEMBER, YOU'RE HOLDING WATER RIGHT NOW THAT YOU WILL LOSE WHEN YOU GO OFF THE DNP ...YOU'RE ACTUALLY SEVERAL POUNDS LIGHTER THAN THE SCALES ARE TELLING YOU...WHEN YOU GET 1/2 TO WHERE YOU WANT TO BE STOP AND LET THE WATER PASS FOR A FEW DAYS AND WEIGH YOURSELF AGAIN.

W.

im actually a week off the dnp. my urine is back to normal colors. dont have that hot feeling but still have shortness of breath. i will have another go, my 2nd dnp cycle tom. keep you guys posted.

[LightWeightBaby]

i lost around 10lbs in 12 days. i was around 16% bf. now i estimate im around 9-10%. not bad for 12 days

awesome, i am planning a DNP cycle in a month I think. Hopinf to get down to at least 10% bf. Right now I am 220 15%bf.

[Spoon]

awesome, i am planning a DNP cycle in a month I think. Hopinf to get down to at least 10% bf. Right now I am 220 15%bf.

no sweat bro, loosing 5% should be no problem. i will try to lose another 5-6 lbs in the hope of trying to get my bf as low 7%. i8 will enbark on my 2nd journey tonite.

[Spoon]

i just popped one 200mg couple of minutes ago. this will be my 2nd go. i will be doing 200mg for 3 days then upping up the dose to 400mg ed. will aim for 8-10 days. Also got benadryl antihistamine and will be taking around 1-2 teaspoons before bedtime.

[Spoon]

everythings all good now. cannot feel the heat yet. i anticipate that i will start getting the hot feeling in 2-3 days. urine is still normal color. cant wait to get that feeling coz you know your body is shedding the fat!

[Spoon]

im still good, taking dose 3 tonite. no apparent signs of sweating but i feel the heat creeping in. been doing a teaspoon of benadryl every night to combat the histamine build up. urine is starting to turn yellow and i anticipate the dnp to fully kick in by day 4-5.

ive noticed something strange. as in my first, i notice that my entire body has turned a shade darker. meaning i look like i just came from the beach! instant tan. its the second time i notice this.

[Spoon]

I still dont have the pronounced affects of dnp . the heat though is slowly buiding up and i also have a very difficult time sleeping due to my cough. the benadryl has releived some of the harshness in my throat. also noticed that i have to drink more water at night becasue my throat gets so parched and dry.

will bump up dose to 400mg ed in split doses maybe by day 5 or 6. will have an update soon.

[Spoon]

decided to up my dose today. imup to 400mg/day. taken in 2 split doses 12 hrs. apart. im quite surprised because the dnp is taking longer to kick in compared to my first cycle. i feel the heat but i am not sweating as much as i thought i would be. im guessing its either that there was still residual dnp in me or that my body has gotten used to it.

[Spoon]

i noticed something which pretty much explains my experiences so far with dnp . that my body has sort of gotten used to it. havent gotten shortness of breath like my first cycle. not sweating as much although the heat is present throughout the day but nothing unbearable. i also have a nice tan all over my body, i dont think its an allergy. just a way my body has adapted since i dont sweat.

my gym workouts have still been consistent and true to form. havent done cardio at all and i dont think it is necessary on dnp. why tax your body more than it already is. even when working out everything should be done at the bear minimum. you arent going to grow anyway so you dont always have to go heavy or gauge your strength on "past records, peak strength".

so far i can say that even if i have several days to go, i can say with confidence that at day 7 of cycle 1, i had better results than now. i guess this is due to the fact that my body has gotten used to the dnp or that there was still some residual matter in my system. i really dont know. also i have more water retention now than in the first. that maybe explains why i dont look as good as i though i would be. ii am seriously curious how my body will look when i shed the excess water. time will tell. i was originally going to do a 8 day cycle but i think my body can handle more. vital signs and temp have been in check. i will attempt 15 days or maybe even up the dose to 600mg? will have an update soon.

[angelxterminator]

spoon i was just wondering when you started to really see the fat loss. I'm on a few compounds right now, but no aas, and i'm about to begin my aas cycle. I decided to start DNP monday, and will run it as long as possible up to my aas portion of the cycle. Here is what has happened.

Decided to follow your idea and take it at 8pm, works well with my sched. etc.

Monday Day 1
Took at 8pm
Felt nothing

Tuesday Day 2
8PM
nothing

weds day 3
got a little heated at one point, not sure if it was the DNP
no sweats or anything

Day 4, thursday
took 200mg 8am
took another 200 8pm
felt a bit clammy, esp before sleep. No sweats

Day 5, friday
clammy during the day, was having a hard time sleeping
Sweat a little bit, but not nearly what i expected/

TOday, day 6
200mg 8am
Clammy during the day, my arm pits are sweaty
Other than that nothing
I'm seeing no fat loss, or if any, its not noticeable.

Is this normal?
I'm gonna take the dose at 8pm tonight, and report back, and if its still nto bad, i'm gonna take 600mg every day and see what happens

FOr some reason i have allergic reactions to nothing, and need high doses of everything. at 200mg every day for clen i barely felt any sides at all, and that was with spiropent!

[Spoon]

spoon i was just wondering when you started to really see the fat loss. I'm on a few compounds right now, but no aas, and i'm about to begin my aas cycle. I decided to start DNP monday, and will run it as long as possible up to my aas portion of the cycle. Here is what has happened.

Decided to follow your idea and take it at 8pm, works well with my sched. etc.

Monday Day 1
Took at 8pm
Felt nothing

Tuesday Day 2
8PM
nothing

weds day 3
got a little heated at one point, not sure if it was the DNP
no sweats or anything

Day 4, thursday
took 200mg 8am
took another 200 8pm
felt a bit clammy, esp before sleep. No sweats

Day 5, friday
clammy during the day, was having a hard time sleeping
Sweat a little bit, but not nearly what i expected/

TOday, day 6
200mg 8am
Clammy during the day, my arm pits are sweaty
Other than that nothing
I'm seeing no fat loss, or if any, its not noticeable.

Is this normal?
I'm gonna take the dose at 8pm tonight, and report back, and if its still nto bad, i'm gonna take 600mg every day and see what happens

FOr some reason i have allergic reactions to nothing, and need high doses of everything. at 200mg every day for clen i barely felt any sides at all, and that was with spiropent!

bro sounds exactly like mine. i dint really feel anything til day 5 and up. i guess you got to give the dnp time to build up in your system. in my 2nd cycle i thought that my body was used to it, im on day 8 today and i can clearly see that it really is in fact working. from day 1 to 5 i dintreally see any fat loss becasue of the water retention. on day 8 i have lost a total of 7 lbs. thats 7 lbs in 8 days.

just as you mentioned i also hardly got any sides with clen in fact i dint even get the shakes and i was 175 lbs at that time. at one point i bumped my clen to 180 mcg. this dnp is the total opposite. its really the most effective fat burner. my advice would be to play it by ear and see how well your body reacts. if all goes the way i think it is, you wouldnt have to bump it up to 600mg. 400 should be just right. good luck

[Spoon]

so far i have lost 7 lbs in this second cycle. i have a lot of water retention. today was my cheat day and i had tons of carbs and crap. sweating like a mofo pig. the shortness of breath is starting to creep in. i will try to see how far i can go. probaly try to hold up til day 12. the dnp seems to do a very good job in eating the fat but it has clearly untouched my love handles and subs. strange.

my body fat is around 9% now from an intitial 14-16% when i started my first cycle. never would i have thought that the results would be this dramatic. and thats without cardio. all is well and will have an update soon.

[angelxterminator]

i'm glad its working soo well for you, because i still think it aint doing sh*t for me.

so i took my 8pm pill last night, that'll be day 6, but the 3rd day i've done 400mg. Felt clammy, slept fine, i'm a bit warm, but still no sweats.

Its sun morning now, day 6, took the pill at 8am, feel clammy, still no sweats. my blood levels should be around 900mg right now i believe, and still none of the sides every body else has gotten. I look in the mirror and i can't tell that i've lost any weight, and my scale's numbers are still the same. The bf% reading on the scale is fluctuating, but those electronic bf% things are pieces of sh*t and will fluctuate from 13% to 18% for me in 1 day depending on water intake.

Sorry for hijacking your thread, i'm just wondering when all this fat loss will be coming. I look the same, and weigh the same, and its been almost 7 days.
After tomorrow If i feel the same i'm going to jump to 600mg.
I'll take one every 8 hours to keep blood levels stable as possible, so at midnight, 8am and 5pm i'll take the pills!

BTW my BBT reading has been consistent, 98.2, which is normally where it lies anyway!

[LightWeightBaby]

You taking H's DNP ???

i'm glad its working soo well for you, because i still think it aint doing sh*t for me.

so i took my 8pm pill last night, that'll be day 6, but the 3rd day i've done 400mg. Felt clammy, slept fine, i'm a bit warm, but still no sweats.

Its sun morning now, day 6, took the pill at 8am, feel clammy, still no sweats. my blood levels should be around 900mg right now i believe, and still none of the sides every body else has gotten. I look in the mirror and i can't tell that i've lost any weight, and my scale's numbers are still the same. The bf% reading on the scale is fluctuating, but those electronic bf% things are pieces of sh*t and will fluctuate from 13% to 18% for me in 1 day depending on water intake.

Sorry for hijacking your thread, i'm just wondering when all this fat loss will be coming. I look the same, and weigh the same, and its been almost 7 days.
After tomorrow If i feel the same i'm going to jump to 600mg.
I'll take one every 8 hours to keep blood levels stable as possible, so at midnight, 8am and 5pm i'll take the pills!

BTW my BBT reading has been consistent, 98.2, which is normally where it lies anyway!

[angelxterminator]

You taking H's DNP???

Yes it is "-H-'s" DNP .
The legitimacy of the product is not the problem.

[Ultimate]

i'm glad its working soo well for you, because i still think it aint doing sh*t for me.

so i took my 8pm pill last night, that'll be day 6, but the 3rd day i've done 400mg. Felt clammy, slept fine, i'm a bit warm, but still no sweats.

Its sun morning now, day 6, took the pill at 8am, feel clammy, still no sweats. my blood levels should be around 900mg right now i believe, and still none of the sides every body else has gotten. I look in the mirror and i can't tell that i've lost any weight, and my scale's numbers are still the same. The bf% reading on the scale is fluctuating, but those electronic bf% things are pieces of sh*t and will fluctuate from 13% to 18% for me in 1 day depending on water intake.

Sorry for hijacking your thread, i'm just wondering when all this fat loss will be coming. I look the same, and weigh the same, and its been almost 7 days.
After tomorrow If i feel the same i'm going to jump to 600mg.
I'll take one every 8 hours to keep blood levels stable as possible, so at midnight, 8am and 5pm i'll take the pills!

BTW my BBT reading has been consistent, 98.2, which is normally where it lies anyway!

you do understand that at 200mg/day the results are still coming they are just slower than 400mg/day right?
You obviously lost fat that is obvious since you're taking proven DNP and are feeling the symptons, but since water retention is taking place you believe you didn't lose weight yet...


since from many posts that I've seen at 200mg/day you don't shut down your t3 you could go almost indefinitly on it... check it here http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...d.php?t=115611

kingofmasters gives a really nice and scientify view on long low dose cycles of DNP that you might like.

but if you wanna raise your dose go to 400 for a few days (2-4) then raise to 600 you don't wanna shock your body with something like this...

[Spoon]

i got a very bad allergic reaction. i think it is not the dnp becasue if it was i would have known i was allergic to it a long time ago. sometime last night i developed some allergies. nothing visible but i started to itch all over. couldnt really sleep much becasue of the itchiness. i had very small welts over my body sort of like when a mosquito bites you.

i am thinking it must have been something i ate last night, being it was my cheat day i had so much to it but i most likely got it from sea food. it sucks because i wanted to push this couple of more days, but i dont completely ruel out the fact that the dnp "may" have played some role in this. i am stopping today and will rest for another week.

i will be doing one more dnp cycle and calling it quits. i have lost a total of 115-17lbs maybe more becasue i am still holding some water as of the moment. i will carb load in 2 to 3 days and it should be interesting how i will look then. keep ya guys posted.

[Spoon]

still have some itchy parts throughout my body, there not so bad except when i scrathch em excessively. hopefully the itchiness will subside by tom. i am still wondering what caused this?

[angelxterminator]

you do understand that at 200mg/day the results are still coming they are just slower than 400mg/day right?
You obviously lost fat that is obvious since you're taking proven DNP and are feeling the symptons, but since water retention is taking place you believe you didn't lose weight yet...


since from many posts that I've seen at 200mg/day you don't shut down your t3 you could go almost indefinitly on it... check it here http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...d.php?t=115611

kingofmasters gives a really nice and scientify view on long low dose cycles of DNP that you might like.

but if you wanna raise your dose go to 400 for a few days (2-4) then raise to 600 you don't wanna shock your body with something like this...

No actually you are wrong. Just because DNP affects one person in a certain way, doesn't mean it will have nearly the same affect or to the same degree with another body.

Today will be my 4th day of 400mg, my 7th day overall. I feel no symptoms at all right now. During the day i feel no different. My weight is roughly the same, and i look exactly the same. I get slightly hot and mosit during different poitns of the day, but nothign like what anybody else described. After today i will bump to 600 mg, and be adding t3.

After monitoring my BBT, i supplemented with 37.5 mcg of t3 this morning, so we'll see where this leads me!

[Matrix78]

still have some itchy parts throughout my body, there not so bad except when i scrathch em excessively. hopefully the itchiness will subside by tom. i am still wondering what caused this?

ya know that started happening to me too i thought it was the pyruvate and stoped taking that but the itch red welts continued for a few more days than it finaly subsided but i still have intching spells... altho i had none of this for my first run. i know you need to have the allerng intorduced to your body before you develope the allergie. i wonder if the first runwas ok then after the pause and continuation that we have now developed allergies to the DNP ?

[Spoon]

ya know that started happening to me too i thought it was the pyruvate and stoped taking that but the itch red welts continued for a few more days than it finaly subsided but i still have intching spells... altho i had none of this for my first run. i know you need to have the allerng intorduced to your body before you develope the allergie. i wonder if the first runwas ok then after the pause and continuation that we have now developed allergies to the DNP?

that could me the only logical explanation bro. its my 2nd day off the dnp , honestly i thought the itchiness would be gone by now but its not. i guess this is so because i still have relatively high concentrations of dnp left in my system.

The itchiness only starts to get really bad in the early AM around 3-6am. then subsides then starts all over again. its more of annoying than anything else. its the worst in my hands and they are already quite red from my constant scratching. i took some claritin too but it dint seem to help. my best guess is that this will cease once my entire body is flushed and cleansed. im wondering if a third run on dnp would be pushing it?

[Spoon]

just came from meso rx and read some article on dnp and hives and in fact i got an allergic reaction to the dnp. i guess that the build up of excessive histamine caused this. whatever the case, i will try to get some prednisone and benadryl to help me get through the itchy hives coz i think il have this for a week or so.

[Whitey]

i got a very bad allergic reaction. i think it is not the dnp becasue if it was i would have known i was allergic to it a long time ago. sometime last night i developed some allergies. nothing visible but i started to itch all over. couldnt really sleep much becasue of the itchiness. i had very small welts over my body sort of like when a mosquito bites you.

i am thinking it must have been something i ate last night, being it was my cheat day i had so much to it but i most likely got it from sea food. it sucks because i wanted to push this couple of more days, but i dont completely ruel out the fact that the dnp "may" have played some role in this. i am stopping today and will rest for another week.

i will be doing one more dnp cycle and calling it quits. i have lost a total of 115-17lbs maybe more becasue i am still holding some water as of the moment. i will carb load in 2 to 3 days and it should be interesting how i will look then. keep ya guys posted.

Awesome results, man - congrats! Too bad about the rash. I'm definitely interested in trying this myself, after doing some more research. Thanks for the good info.

[Spoon]

Awesome results, man - congrats! Too bad about the rash. I'm definitely interested in trying this myself, after doing some more research. Thanks for the good info.

the rash was in fact from the dnp . i was taking benadryl though everynight throughout second cycle. i was taking only 5ml, should have been 10. anyways i got my benadryl now and some zytec for the allergies. i will take a break for around 2 weeks and will do one LAST dnp cycle.

[Spoon]

Taken from an article from mesorx on dnp and hives.

"I developed the "Revenge of DNP" hive after my second cycle. The response is probably NOT a histamine buildup. Histamine (like most acute phase reactants) has a VERY short half-life. It's actually the interaction of DNP with your immune system that causes the problem.

DNP is a highly reactive molecule. But due to it's small size your immune system pretty much ignores it . . . that is until DNP begins attaching itself to larger molecules in the body. The fancy term is hapten. Anyway, once DNP is bound to larger molecules your immune system takes notice and mounts a vigorous response. In particular, it's called a delayed hypersensitivity reaction. That's the reason why people like myself still had symptoms 4 weeks after stopping DNP.

Benadryl (and most other antihistamines) help with the histamine but since your broader immune system is "kicking arse and taking names) . . . it's a losing battle. I tried Claritin (over the counter it's loratadine) but it was only a touch more effective than Benadryl (diphenhydramine). I finally broke down and went to my doctor. Naturally, I told the truth about what happened (I'm a doctor as well). Anyway, he disagreed with my treatment suggestion (prednisolone) and chose Zyrtec instead. It actually worked quite well (much better than Claritin or Benadryl) but I was on it daily for another two weeks.

Lessons:
1) Shorter cycles are better.
2) Lower doses are better.
3) Healthy intervals between cycles are better.
4) Pretreat with an antihistamine for at least a day or two . . . then use an antihistamine for the duration of your DNP cycle AND consider continued use for a period afterwards of at least 4 half-lives . . . personally I'm planning at least FIVE."