DNP (2,4-Dinitrophenol) Info

[Snrf]

dnp spreadsheet anyone have it? or know the link to it

[badboy247]

gr8 info this thread was enough info to write a novel on dnp !!

[scull]

I was wondering if after you get them capped[doing it yourself] does the dnp eat thru the caps?should it be kept in the fridge?---and the cateracts thing ,I guess it realy rare 1% get them and not much you can do?

[kkrausz]

great thread!!

[poundcake]

im really interested in that spreadsheet too

[Devils Mentor]

Where is SV-1????

I see he has not been on for a very long time....




DM

[RANA]

Old thread but a good one

[McJuicer]

bump!

[smallville2008]

i need to get me soome DNP
been reading alot about it
and the benefits outweigh the sides in my opinion

[vBRAH]

I'd read that on DNP it wasnt uncommon for people to lose 1/2 lb of fat per day but the dosage of this has never been said - were they on 600mg and losing 1/2 lb fat? Or were they cruising on 200mg per day for 20 days and what not?

[rockenfalcon]

dam bro i really do have to say thanks for the time and research ,i think im going to print this out and give to my son for a research project for school he would have to get a A+ .j/k thanks again !!!!!

[mick86]

I read a few old posts of people asking for a DNP spread sheet. I have made one, I believe it to be fairly accurate. Anyone wanting a copy feel free to contact me.

[Nau]

Hello everyone

I'm new here, I found this forums while searching for some DNP Info.
I'm ashamed to say this but i started smoking weed in 2009 and because of the "munchies" I have gained about 7kg and I would like to lose them back before summer (and my birthday) come.

DNP Sounds like the perfect thing.

I workout 3 times a week and I have been doing so since last october. I play football (fairly competitive, about 2h, 5 a side) every week end and I stay away from the "crappy" food.


How much should I use? for how long? and where can I get some safe dosages? I found a website that sels them but i dont trust it :s


thanks a lot guys!

[ranging1]

JUST THINK I SHOULD MENTION THIS
saying DNP is anti Carcinogenic is incorrect and missleading
this is not because DNP doesnt cause cancer, this is because their is no study that proves dnp causes cancer
their is proof that DNP has cuased cataracts, and severe drops in white blood cell count
though these studies are old, they still exist

i think people should try to remeber DNP was used as an explosive, pestacide killer, chemical dye etc
also try to remeber when dnp was first discovered to cause weight loss, it was becuase workers in a factory were exposed to DNP in the air, unions then noticed workers were loosing alot of weight
after several workers died from overheating and their bodies were examined it was found that thier bodys core tempratures were still rising for approx 48 hours dispite the fact they were dead
i know DNP hasnt been proven to cause a direct death
but try to remeber almost every phenol has been proven to cause cancer

taking DNP to cause weightloss isnt needed, diet is more then enough, t3 and clenbutral are more then enough if their stacked with a good steroid

i should mention i have also used DNP once to get myself in the 6% bf area, it did it very well

so im not one of those anti DNP users, what im saying is you should seriously consider what ur doing before u use DNP
think about it
and i think use should all look at what dnp did to those animals and c how it varies, thier not small issues, alot of those are irriversable, forget the fact their a different species have a good look

[Jeet Kune Do]

Ranging1 - Solid and true post. Fact is, DNP is the extreme, last resort type of deal IMO as well.

I am all for using it if you make it your self and are fully aware of the risks. Sure it destroys fat, but so does T3. But T3 eates everything. I see it this way, as we all should, you get an equal risk for the reward. T3 removes hard earned muscle, so DNP...? Does something equal to the possitive to the body in the shape of a negative force.

Thats not something I am willing to risk unless its a one time cut down for a short period of time. Not bad enough for me to do over a fight/contest/competition. Shouldnt be for anyone else either.

[lschrimpf]

We have been looking for DNP and have been told you can find it for $1 a pill with antioxidents and antihistimines in it. Does anyone know where we can find this? We have reseached DNP, purchase the book Illegaly Thin, and read everything we can find on the internet. Now my husband and I are ready to try it, any advice on how to get it?

[ranging1]

here you go

http://www.theloseweightdiet.com/lose-weight1.html

[doublefat]

Lot of food for thought thanx

[FG Brazil]

Hey bud im 5'8 205 lbs 16 bf% will dnp help me get lean. Already on diet.

[Skilover]

edited and warned

[the big 1]

you are violating the rules by asking for a source

your dont have the privilege of messaging yet, you only have 1 post

[ithunk]

nice read....thanks

[aj5982]

By Kingofmasters on AR.

Many boards have DNP -guides, but in essence they are the same 3 guides over and over again; These guides are not only outdated, they tend to over do the supplements thus making it more complicated than needed and they are life-threatening to newbies because they don't elaborate enough on important aspects as the 36-hour half-life (thus the accumalative effect) and the elektrolyte-loss (they just tell you to drink V8 ).
Not only that but instead of REALLY BASING THEIRSELVES ON SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH, they just post some PUBMED researches and long quotes out of them (not summarized or put in lay-mans terms), just to impress the reader!
And often you have the feeling that they really don't know what they are talking about, also they tend to tell more about its history than its practical use and action (BY KNOW WE ALL KNOW IT WAS USED AS AN EXPLOSIVE, INSECTICIDE, YELLOW PAINT etc.)!
They don't elaborate enough on Practical inconveniences as well; The foultasting and dry mouth one gets and the fact that if you are making the caps yourself without precautions it is very likely to cover the room with unremovable (except with TEK) Yellow stains everywhere.
The final and most important thing is that this new approach is not only at least as effective at fat loss or even more so, but also countless times more convenient and with countless less horrible sides!

A REVOLUTION IS UPON US!!

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The new approach to cycling DNP:

DNP has a 36-hour half-life meaning it will build up in your blood and due to it being an exponential 2nd degree math function, after a certain amount of time the accumalative effect will be too small (insignificant) and thus bloodlevels will peak and remain stable...

The international Physics formula for Half-life:

In physics
with:
N(0) = dosage at time zero
N(t) = dosage left at recent time
t(1/2) = half life in seconds/hours/days/years (depending on compound)

N(t) = N (0) x (1/2)^(t/t(1/2))

at 200 mg every day the peaklevel will be 540 mg...
@ day 6 you will already be over 500 mg...!

(but given the margin of error in capping and dosingtimes we take 600 mg as standard!)

more info: http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...28&postcount=2

So a 20 day cycle @ 200 mg ED, will result in a 540 mg peaklevel which is a very comfortable dose for any healthy grown man!

A 20 day cycle will also yield great results, most likely greater than a "horrifying sideful" traditional 8 day cycle @ 400 mg.

Most of you who are trying DNP for the first time are not willing to jump in a
20 day cycle right away, so a 10 or 12 day cycle @ 200 mg will be more suitable, just make sure that you carbdeplete 2 days in advance for optimum results in such a short low dose cycle...

DNP IS NOT SUITABLE FOR WOMEN AND MORBIDLY OBESE PEOPLE!!

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Beneficial Properties:

1. DNP is both Liver and kidneyfriendly.
2. DNP has anti-catabolic properties.
3. DNP boosts the immunesystem
4. DNP is Anti-Carcinogenic
5. DNP is non-hormonal and thus fatloss is easier to maintain

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Sides:

At such a low dose the most likely sides will be:
Sweating (+ feeling hot)
Heavy breathing
Irregular Sleep Pattern
Rashes for some (take an anti-histamine for this, if it lasts discontinue DNP!)
Lethargy
Decreased Strength
Musclecramps (Not likely at all especially at such a dose with enough mineralsupplementation).
Increased Hunger
(especially Sugar-cravings, Sibutramine totally annihilates this side!)

Note:
I got "the rash" the first and last part of the second cycle...
I never took citadrizine HCL...
But by cycle 3 (actually end of cycle 2; so 2,5) I never developed an allergy any more...
Still Anti-histamines can aid in fat loss if supplemented with Ephedrine and Yohimbine!

All these can be combatted to a certain extent...

Practical Sides:

DNP will provide a hideous sent of it under your Armpits due to the sweating
(especially in the last few days) so always wash under your armpits a couple of times a day and put plenty deodorant under it even before bed
(I swear the scent will annoy you in bed).

DNP leaves a foul and dry taste in your mouth all day long; I found out that
drinking Diet Softdrinks helps against it so sweets always get the taste away, but seeing we want to LOSE weight Diet soda is the best option!
(normal softdrinks contain sugar and we WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT
best bets: Fanta, Fanta Pomelo, Fanta Cassis, Fanta Lemon, Coca Cola Lemon, Sprite etc. ALL LIGHT!).
I finish about 2 bottles a day
(Ice cold preferabely also seeing drinking water all day gets tiresome!!).

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Effectivity:

All over messgeboards I read that an ECA boosts metabolism by 3%,
Clen + T3 20% and DNP 50-75%!

I don't know where people get these numbers but it is not true!

Fat loss not only has to do with metabolism, but also with many other processes like affecting alpha and betareceptors
(why Yohimbine has got such fatloss potential for "love handles").
Increased metabolism also means better proteinsynthesis, which is not always the case with these fatburners!

Not to mention a 75%-boost on DNP would not make sense since for instance let's take a 2000 calorie boost (And that would mean a maintenance
Caloric Requirement of about 2800 Kcal a day!!, which is very high!)
--> giving a maximum of 250 gram pure fat loss a day!
That would mean an 8 day cycle would yield a maximum of 2 Kg fatloss
(I know the offdays count as well but that would be compensated by glycogen-reserves, increased appetite etc.).

The real deal:
A degree Fahrenheit increase in BMR on DNP is equal to a
120% boosted Caloric-expense!

Practical Effectivity:
Now here's the big question......
will it yield the same results fat loss-wise as the shorter higher dose cycles?

Yes, not only shall the DNP be more effective, but things like T2 and Yohimbine need longer cycles to work their magic and thus you will have even better results!
(also the fat loss will be more gradually from the ancillaries and thus prove easier to maintain that weight).

Note: The Scale will lie and so will the mirror!
Due to the waterbloat and thus waterweight
(The waterbloat is less obvious then with Deca for instance since it "hides" around the middlesection + lovehandles!), also the carbdepletion will make your muscles appear less "pumped".

So remember that while "on" you will feel fat and bloated and your muscles will be anything but pumped!
Fun thing is 5-7 days after discontinuance you will see the drastic change in the mirror and on the scale!

The feeling one gets when coming off is great
(no more sweating, dry mouth, clearance of bloat etc.)!

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Weightloss is semi-permanent!:

I and many other people have noticed that after a DNP-cycle even after months less than 50% of the weightloss is gained back.
(And that is even with crappy training and diet)
While common rule in dieting is that the more weight one loses in a
short time span, the more likely he/she is to gain all that weight back plus even a bit more fat most of the times (the dreaded YOYO-effect!!).

Also this research confirms that 3 obese people (2 men and a women) after
long term T3 and DNP supplementation lost a lot of weight and managed
TO KEEP IT OFF!

http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...30&postcount=4

As to so many cases of people not experiencing a drastic rebound with DNP
(anything that guarantees under 50% of the weightloss gained back is an effective diet-aid in my opinion) it got me thinking as to WHY...

So a simple theory which I came up with:

DNP is so dangerous, because it doesn't involve in a feedback system
(meaning if there is to much present in the blood there is no way the body can combat that).
Also it is non-hormonal
(hormonal systems always have a feedback-mechanism).

This means that it doesn't affect your body's "setpoint"
(which is what your body thinks is your "healthy" weight and thus always wants to return to that point).

Some mechanisms in the "setpoint" are still unknown but it mostly has to do with dopamine/adrenaline and the various Neuropeptides
(especially B, K and Y that all regulate appetite).

The "setpoint" is best adjusted if weightloss is as gradually as possible
(phentermine users always get the yo-yo effect meaning all the lost weight
+ some new fat comes back after discontinuance; not only because fat is lost so rapidly but mainly because it affects all those "setpoint" features and after discontinuance they will try to regain homeostasis!).

DNP has no (significant) role in manipulating the "setpoint"
(meaning your body will not feel the urge to gain some weight after discontinuance).
Also it competes with T3, meaning after you stop DNP, T3 will peak
(instead of like with most diets; will be on low)
couple that with the fact that it is not catabolic
(actually a bit anti-catabolic for that matter) so your BMR stays
rougly the same after the DNP-cycle.

And the conclusion confirms the reality -->
Fat loss induced by DNP is not likely to come back for a significant part!

Note:
Most people supplement certain compounds with DNP -->
I for instance take Sibutramine, T2, T3 and an ECY which are
most likely to be the MAIN cause of the "gained weight afterwards"
due to the KNOWN disturbance of some processes in the body's metabolism by these ancillaries.

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First things, First! --> Obtaining DNP

1) Make it yourself!

Unless you are an experienced homebrewer I can not advise to do this,
DNP stains are impossible to remove (with the exception of with TEKTROL), and the DNP powder is at its cheapest $1 (for small amounts) per gram, considering the fact that you pay $1 for a 200 mg cap on average and you only need a small amount of caps per cycle; it is not worth it...

The pro with making it yourself is that you can add all sorts of things in thus minimizing the amount of tabs/caps/powder one has to swallow.

I used to make them containing per cap:
200 mg DNP
100 mg Quercetin (anti-histamine and anti-oxidant)
10 mg Sibutramine HCL (Appetite suppresant)
150 mg Magnesium Malate
180 mg Synthetic Vitamin E (Comes down to 400 IE/IU)
5 mg Vitamin B12
5 mg Yohimbine HCL

2) Buying them:

As to such a potentially dangerous substance, if over dosed,
I wouldn't buy it unless it was from someone who is really well known.
There is such a guy and he makes the 200 mg DNP caps with 200 mg Quercetin (Anti-histamine and Anti-oxidant) in them for just $1.
If you are a regular on this board and are well respected here, you can ask a mod/vet for his e-mail; Normally i wouldn't post this but it is due to the fact that in case of DNP you have to have a real trusted dealer!

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Usage --> Diet:

Lots of Water! and other fluids like DietSodas!

A diet while on DNP is nonsense since due to its non-hormonal actions there is no benefit in shifting nutrients.

You will get bad sugar-cravings though!
(Yohimbine, Ephedrine and especially Sibutramine are effective in combatting this!).

Just remember that carbs will get you heated
(so after carb intake you will start to feel warm for about 10 minutes, but without carbs you will find everything to taste disgusting!).

The 2 gram per lbs of bodyweight protein rule is also nonsense!
(DNP is not catabolic at all).

Keep your intake of vegetables high
(especially any kind of Lettuce, cubecomber etc.)
Also Fruits (with the exception of Bananas/strawberries/grapes)
do combat a lot of sides
(refrigerate some Apples, Oranges, Mangos, Peaches and a Pineapple and you will have a tasty meal that also makes you feel more at ease while "on").

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Supplementing T2 and T3 or not?:

This has been a controversial subject...

Let's clear some things up (MALLET will thank me for it!):
T3 is NOT catabolic!
In certain amounts it is very ANABOLIC ....

T2 + T3 help DNP operate at peak efficiency; Maximizing Fat Loss!

Especially since the thyroid can shut down, the amounts we supplement are quite anabolic/anti-catabolic (Why I GAINED 4 lbs LBM)!

For the people afraid of suppressing their thyroid:
Fact is T3 and DNP compete a little, so supplementing T3 on a DNP-cycle would be far less suppresive on TSH than on a T3/Clen or T3-only cycle.
Not to mention the fact that getting off DNP would give your Thryroid a boost too so recovering would be easier than from the proposed T3-only cycle...

T2 info (there is little info available on such a wonderful substance!):

(((((I read most Pubmed researces on Thyroid-metabolites and found this to be the found most important things to know)))))

- Potencywise: 400 mcg T2 = 50 mcg T3
- T2 is far less catabolic than T3 even when abused:
- T2 is far less supressive on FSH than T3
- 3,5-T2 is more suitable for fat loss than 3,3-T2.
- T2 is only active for about an hour.
- T2 is most effective when supplemented with T3
(or when natural production of T3 is high).
- Although T3 has a long half-life, periodic intervals per day of taking it yields far better results!

T2 is best taken as much divided during the day as possible; 3 is a minimum
(it is only active for one hour and preferabely with meals since it will burn all the fats/carbos you get in immediately!).

T2 unlike T3 is not likely to be catabolic even when abused
(as previously mentioned T3 engaged in proper usage is quite anabolic!).

T2 is available @ Team LR

P.S. Team LR probably uses ethanol (Nail polish remover) as a dissolver so the stuff tastes like crap, right before taking it, put it in an Empty cap
(the cap will dissolve within 2 minutes of coming in contact with a liquid so take it just before!).

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Proper supplementation:

People tend to use TOO MUCH supplements on DNP.
Therefore making it way too complicated and frightening

In low dose cycles the described supplements (below) are more than enough!

In dosages like 600/800/1000 mg ED
Magnesium/Phytochemicals/GSE become essential!

2-10 gram Potassium Gluconoate ED
ECY (E/C/Y/G/A @ 25/200/5/40/75 mg)
2x Vitamin C @ 500 mg
2x Vitamin E @ 400 IU
3x 400 mcg T2
3x 15 mcg T3

Optional:
Ketotifen or Benadryl (preferabely on hand!)
Melatonin (preferabely on hand!)
R-ALA
Magnesium (very useful in higher dosages like 400 mg DNP or more!)
Taurine @ 500 mg ED

ECY (E/C/Y/G/A @ 25/200/5/40/75 mg):
Ephedrine/Cafeine/Yohimbine/Guggelsterones/Acetyl-L-carnitine
@ 25/200/5/40/75 mg!
(should contain SYNTHETIC guggelsterones and SYNTHETIC yohimbine both available at ********).

Usage: To combat Lethargy, Curb Appetite and Cravings, to free fatty acid for better fatburning and for better fatburning in "stubborn fat".

T2 + T3:
Fatloss, preventing lethargy and maybe even anabolism/anti-catabolism

Vitamin C & Vitamin E:
Basically all the Anti-oxidants you need: A Watersoluble and a Fatsoluble one!
due to their activity-span take twice a day!

Potassium Gluconoate:
You loose alot of minerals through sweating!
The elektrolytes you have to replace are Sodium and Potassium
(in Latin Natrium and Kalium),
sodium is relatively easy to get through ones diet
(tablesalt is sodiumchloride/natriumchloride).
Potassium is a little harder to get
(Still Potassium is present in a lot of vegetables).

10 grams a day of Potassium Gluconoate is best
(actually 10 grams is way overkill especially since that would mean
1,6 gram of Potassiumsupplementation a day for a 200 mg cycle).
2 grams is more than enough...

Potassium Gluconoate will keep strength up and battle muscle cramps!

Potassium gluconoate (16% Potassium) is $20 per 3 lbs at ********!

Ketotifen or Benadryl (Ketotifen is much more potent):
As Anti-histamine (for Allergies)
As sleeping Aid (take before bed!)
Upgrading the Fatcell receptors
Keeping the ECY effective (during longer runs like 30 days)

Melatonin:
Anti-oxdidant + Sleeping Aid.

Taurine
Compensate Taurine Levels in Liver...

Magnesium or R-ala
As Anti-Oxidant!

Obtaining supplements:
******** for all the bulkpowders for the ECY (and all the other supplements)
animalkits for Vitamin E powder

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DNP for PCT: Will elaborate on that later!

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Funny Note:
Hitler gave it to his troops invading russia to keep them warm during Russia's infamous winters!

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Phytochemicals Story!

Morin, Luteolin, Quercetin, Kaempferol and Reservatol are especially good at supressing Sugars from being metabolized
(not to mention their life-extentioning abilities and positive effects on Lipid Levels and Cardiac Function).
Fisetin, Myrecetin, Baicalein, Galangin are far less effective
(In That order --> with the most effective one mentioned first and the least effective one mentioned last).

Epigallocachin, Epicatechin, Hesperetin, Taxifolin, Rutin, Flavonol, Flavone didn't do anything at all....

About Phytochemicals:
Li BH, Tian WX. Inhibitory effects of flavonoids on animal fatty acid synthase. J Biochem. 2004 Jan;135(1):85-91

Grapeseedextract inhibits fatcells from growing instead of inhibiting sugars being metabolized like the other phytochemicals!

About GrapeSeedExtract:
Moreno DA, Ilic N, Poulev A, Brasaemle DL, Fried SK, Raskin I. Inhibitory effects of grape seed extract on lipases. Nutrition. 2003 Oct;19(10):876-9.

Reservatol:
Which frees a lot of fatty acids from stubborn fat, makes fatcells more sensitive for Adrenaline, imitates caloric restriction and actually kills fatcells to a degree!
Not to mention its sex-boosting properties, its lifespan enhancing ability and the fact that it pumps your muscles full of Anti-oxidants especially in a
PWO-shake to make recovery easy and thus produce an anabolic enviroment!

About Reservatol!:
Picard F, Kurtev M, Chung N, Topark-Ngarm A, Senawong T, Machado De Oliveira R, Leid M, McBurney MW, Guarente L. Sirt1 promotes fat mobilization in white adipocytes by repressing PPAR-gamma. Nature. 2004 Jun 17;429(6993):771-6

Konrad Howitz, Kevin Bitterman, Haim Cohen, Dudley Lamming, Siva Lavu, Jason Wood, Robert Zipkin, Phuong Chung, Anne Kisielewski, Li-Li Zhang, Brandy Scherer, David Sinclair. Small molecule activators of sirtuins extend Saccharomyces cerevisiae lifespan. Nature 24 August 2003.

Molecules Discovered That Extend Life In Yeast, Human Cells; Group Of Compounds Found In Red Wine, Vegetables Simulate Benefit Of Low-calorie Diet. Science Daily, 25-8-2003

That's why I wondered a cap containing
a Fatinhibitor like Orlistat (or maybe an even more effective one in the future)
and a Glucose-inhibitor like the mentioned Flavonides and GrapeSeedExtract should make the eating of Fast Food/Junk Food perfectly acceptable!

Greets
Kingofmasters

I've read somewhere that DNP causes liver failure, agranulocytosis (lack of white cells), and other more commonly mentioned problems such as death in overdose and cataracts. Just wondering if you'd heard anything about this? Any advice?

[D7M]

I've read somewhere that DNP causes liver failure, agranulocytosis (lack of white cells), and other more commonly mentioned problems such as death in overdose and cataracts. Just wondering if you'd heard anything about this? Any advice?

That's possible.

Advice? Don't mess with DNP if you don't want any problems like that

[Darfus]

None of this stuff makes any sense to me.

[Muscletech]

This stafff make sense! if you know to use it

I notice you that the link of Spreadsheets (in the first post) don't work anymore...

[heathen_saint]

I started taking DNP about a week ago at 200mg capsule per day. Taking with detox supplement and multivitamins at the moment. Was thinking of taking a DNP capsule everyday for the next 100 days. What are your thoughts on this. I'm 37, 5'9" at 150kg and about 33% bodyfat. Also have access to 100x25mcg T3 tabs and clenbuterol lozenges.

[Muscletech]

I think you will die.. keep dnp only for 2 weeks on/ 1 off and repeat

[DeepB1ue]

I started taking DNP about a week ago at 200mg capsule per day. Taking with detox supplement and multivitamins at the moment. Was thinking of taking a DNP capsule everyday for the next 100 days. What are your thoughts on this. I'm 37, 5'9" at 150kg and about 33% bodyfat. Also have access to 100x25mcg T3 tabs and clenbuterol lozenges.

I have done a lot of reading over the years to help me find the holy grail of training and I've reached the conclusion that there is no free lunch and everything effective supplement has unwanted side effects. The side effects of DNP are, well, not optimal(read above)! The best thing I have ever done for my body regards results is to supply it with a good diet and exercised in a manner that would enable me to reach my goals. That you can do 100% of the time, just allowing time off from the exercise to make a recovery. I don't like being the bearer of bad news, so I wont be -just take the information I just posted about nutrition and activity to heart and you'll go a long way. Doing it the slow way you'll get there. Doing it the fast way you may suffer side effects which will remain long after the amount of time it would have taken you to do it the slow way. Be well

[krugerr]

The OP was very informative, I knew nothing about DNP before reading this. Another thing to look I to for the future.

Krugerr

[DeepB1ue]

I started taking DNP about a week ago at 200mg capsule per day. Taking with detox supplement and multivitamins at the moment. Was thinking of taking a DNP capsule everyday for the next 100 days. What are your thoughts on this. I'm 37, 5'9" at 150kg and about 33% bodyfat. Also have access to 100x25mcg T3 tabs and clenbuterol lozenges.

I've just looked at your other thread posting. I shouldn't have bothered replying to you at all -the internet is a dangerous place and if you're asking for advice to take onboard regarding what to do with your body along the lines of the questions you are asking(!), then the best thing you can do for it is to educate yourself generally and train your brain beforehand. Hope you pay attention to this posting. [/unsubscribed]

[Muscletech]

DNP has been used very well for treat obesity..

[Pectorial]

I finished a cycle 4 weeks ago and i can still smell and taste sulphur, why is this and how do i get rid of it ????

[pumping_iron86]

New member... Liftin 13 years, id like to see how 200mg eod first week, then 200mg ed second week first cycle would benefit me. Then maybe another two week cycle of 200mg ed. Not sure where to start lookin, i dont wanna mess myself up w some fake crap...

[ismaele00]

Awesome. Even being wrote 5 years ago.

[247365]

Awesome read.

[corestorm]

awesome read.

[aram90]

Awesome thread but does someone have the spreadsheets?

[Nackel]

In the study in which the DNP is combined with the t, why do they maintain the t3 supplementation after DNP is stopped. Doesn’t it make sense to taper down the t3 dosage?
Will taking t3 with dnp for 2 weeks (at a dosage of 50 mcg) cause thyroid shutdown?

[HoldMyBeer]

In the study in which the DNP is combined with the t, why do they maintain the t3 supplementation after DNP is stopped. Doesn’t it make sense to taper down the t3 dosage?
Will taking t3 with dnp for 2 weeks (at a dosage of 50 mcg) cause thyroid shutdown?

https://www.reddit.com/r/dnp/comment..._logic_from_a/
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics...-dinitrophenol
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Don't use dnp, but if you do
I would supplement with t4 according to the second article if anything. But, I would not use anything. Just dnp. Speaking from experience. DNP is the drug, anything else would just be adding a drop to the ocean. You are going to be uncomfortable enough, no need to make it worse.
I have used both with dnp, t3 was intolerable and 50mcg t4 was the most I could handle. I tried clen also, that didn't last long. It was the middle of winter and I was walking around in my boxers with the windows wide open sweating like a mother fucker. Walking around outside in a t-shirt, I was frequently stopped by people asking if I was crazy. DNP is not pleasant, don't make it worse by stacking it with stuff that is insignificant in comparison and unnecessary