spaceman`s Lean mass .. 1st cycle

**juiceboxxx** · 07-21-2006, 01:30 AM

nm ignore my posts. You had already began your cycle and this was an old thread someone bumped argghhh I hate when that happends. I was just trying to help you right from the begining so that you dont miss anything.

So you see.. you have made some gains but your looking beefy, massive but not lean/cut at all. If you would have cut for a longer period of time before you began this cycle then right now you would be looking much bigger and still looking cut at the same time but mehh..

whats done is done. If I were you, I'd begin a cutting diet right after this cycle. You should look nice after the cutting proccess although you have made some good gains keep your head up.

**daspaceman** · 07-21-2006, 08:25 AM

Thanks for your opinion...

I think i will do a maintenance diet for a while to try and keep my new gains, then i will decrease calories slowly and when i`m around 12% body fat i`ll start a cutting diet,

What do u think?

**juiceboxxx** · 07-21-2006, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by daspaceman

Thanks for your opinion...

I think i will do a maintenance diet for a while to try and keep my new gains, then i will decrease calories slowly and when i`m around 12% body fat i`ll start a cutting diet,

What do u think?

well what week are you in? are you in pct or finished the cycle?

**daspaceman** · 07-22-2006, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by juiceboxxx

well what week are you in? are you in pct or finished the cycle?

i`ve got 5 more weeks to go on cycle then wait 15 days and start pct

**juiceboxxx** · 07-22-2006, 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by daspaceman

i`ve got 5 more weeks to go on cycle then wait 15 days and start pct

how much calories do you consume/ed? 4000? your using a bulking meal plan right?

k I would say keep the calories the same. Meaning if you consume 4000cals/ed then keep it the same for the remainder of the 5 weeks you got left. As soon as you hit pct bump your cals by 500 to make it a total of 4500.

Also take some creatine at that time and train extra hard in the gym but dont over train. Meaning lift a bit heavier but dont train for a longer period of time which could lead to over training.

All this stuff will help you on pct to keep as much gains as possible. After 4 weeks of pct I would definently begin a nice, clean cutting diet to lose the extra fat you gained while on cycle and also to lower your bf % too.

I would also do 45 mins of cardio in the a.m on an empty stomich at 65-70% of your heart rate. Do the cardio 1st thing in the morning as soon as you wake up.

If you do all this then you will help keep all your gains from your cycle and lose the extra fat after your cycle. Basically you will become big and ripped at the same time and then were talking big daddy

**daspaceman** · 07-22-2006, 02:58 AM

awesome man, great info

I`m eating around 4500calories , so i`ll bump that to 5000 calories in PCT

I was already thinking of using creatine in pct.

I will do exactly like u said as it seems a good plan,
cheerz!

**juiceboxxx** · 07-22-2006, 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by daspaceman

awesome man, great info

I`m eating around 4500calories , so i`ll bump that to 5000 calories in PCT

I was already thinking of using creatine in pct.

I will do exactly like u said as it seems a good plan,
cheerz!

n/p bro

good luck and dont forget to post pics after pct and a couple months later after a clean cutting plan

cant wait to see.

**daspaceman** · 07-22-2006, 03:08 AM

of course i will... i love photos as u may have noticed hehe

I post some pictures on my last shot, then after completing pct, then around 3 months of cutting, and then while on my first cutting cycle

**juiceboxxx** · 07-22-2006, 03:14 AM

Originally Posted by daspaceman

of course i will... i love photos as u may have noticed hehe

I post some pictures on my last shot, then after completing pct, then around 3 months of cutting, and then while on my first cutting cycle

Yes I can see that bro lol

good plan you have in mind. I think you get the idea now. 3 months of cutting (12 weeks) then wait 5 months total at the end of pct till you begin next cycle.

time on + pct time (while on cycle) = time you need to take off (before begining a next cycle)

January, February you can began the next cycle if your going to run something.

Goodluck

**daspaceman** · 09-30-2006, 12:59 AM

Update : 5 weeks since my last testoveron inject, and just finished 3rd week of pct (arimidex ,hcg ,orimeten)

Weighing 265lbs, but looking less bloated; max i was while on test was 271lbs.

The photo here is me now weighing 266

I`ve got 4 weeks to go on pct (50mg proviron +20mg nolvadex )