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    Quote Originally Posted by king6
    Really? Man, I always thought I wasn't doing enough. I know the bi's are small, but the tri's have 3 part to them and I try to hit all three heads. But If it is too much I can easily drop 2.
    I would stick to simple compound lifts that stimulate the whole tri/bi if you want mass.

    When you get some serious size, then hit all three heads independently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king6
    Yeah, I just raised the cals again. Now I'm eating oats all the time. Ughhhh, that stuff is hard to choke down, even grinded.
    I love oats, sometimes I eat them plain just add water and nuke for 55 seconds. Put them in allmost all my shakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhriscerr
    I love oats, sometimes I eat them plain just add water and nuke for 55 seconds. Put them in allmost all my shakes
    Yeah, I am starting to get use to them now. No big deal. The carbs are good for energy and weight gain.

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    Day 16

    Did chest today, strength was through the roof. I put 30 lbs on my bench since my last chest day 6 days ago. My flat bench was 2 sets @ 235 for 8 reps. Then the 3rd set was 245 for 8 reps, 4th set was 255 for 6 reps, and 5 set was 265 for 6 reps. I felt like pushing it today. This left me burnt out for decline bench. Then my cable crosses also went up in power as well. I don't think it is the test kicking in, I don't feel a sex drive increase, if anything I would say my sex drive is decreased, but I have been pre occupied latley. It could be my natural test production is shutting down, but I don't know. I think the power is from the Dbol . I am thinking of dropping the Dbol back to 30mg/day or dropping it all together. I can't shake the feeling that I am shedding too much hair. It's weird sometimes. Like the other morning I found a few hairs on my pillow in the morning, but not much in the shower. And this morning I found no hairs on the pillow but more hairs in the shower. Not enough to make my heart pound but enough to concern me. But then again I never made a habit of checking for hair before. It doesn't look thinner. If I run my fingers through my hair sometimes I get 1, 2, 3, 4, or no hairs at all. Not sure what to make of it. Maybe I will get some of that Rogaine foam to go along with my spiro.

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    keep up the good work and you will be huge in no time

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    I'm dropping the Dbol to 20mg/day to see if that helps with the hair shedding. I didn't want to drop it completley and lose my gains. I figure this way the gains will be slower but I will maintain what I have. If the shedding doesn't stop, I will drop the Dbol all together. I don't think this amount of hair loss is normal. So I will adjust to adapt. I wish I would have choose Oral turinabol instead. But if I could have done it over again I would have used a test prop kickstart. Oh well, live and learn. Today is day 17, so the test should be kicking in soon. Since this is my first time I think it will kick in during my third or fourth week. At least I hope.

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    Pictures Man!!!! We Need Pictures!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhriscerr
    Pictures Man!!!! We Need Pictures!!!!!!!!
    I know, I know. I have to get a cable to get them off my phone. But I have not started working yet, and my car insurance is due, so when I get my first check then I will try and get it done.

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    Im running something sim, but ive got eq in there also. I had to drop the dbol all togather in week 3, the shit was makeing me depressed, lazy, in stomach discomfort all the time, nose bleads like "who turned on the faucet??" So I dropped it all togahter and still am makeing good gains, actually up 5lbs since I stopped. I had better results with SD than Dbol, never would uv thunk it. I was only running it at 30mg and then upped it to 40 but I guess it just aint for me. Good luck, gains will start popping up soon, my first test cycle they kicked in around week 5, Im feeling em now around week 4.

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    Good luck with it all man. Hope you get all the gains you are looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king6
    I'm dropping the Dbol to 20mg/day to see if that helps with the hair shedding. I didn't want to drop it completley and lose my gains. I figure this way the gains will be slower but I will maintain what I have. If the shedding doesn't stop, I will drop the Dbol all together. I don't think this amount of hair loss is normal. So I will adjust to adapt. I wish I would have choose Oral turinabol instead. But if I could have done it over again I would have used a test prop kickstart. Oh well, live and learn. Today is day 17, so the test should be kicking in soon. Since this is my first time I think it will kick in during my third or fourth week. At least I hope.
    I am kind of wishing I used Tbol as a kickstart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyMcFly
    I am kind of wishing I used Tbol as a kickstart.
    Yeah me too, if I had to do it again I would have done a prop kickstart. Dbol was not all that it was cracked up to be. I do like the strength and I have gotten bigger, but I think there are better safer compounds that yield equal or better results.

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    Day 18

    Not much to report, did back today. Strength was up again. I went heavy on dead lifts, and on the last set I strained too hard now I have a hemroid. Got about a week and a half left on the Dbol . Overall I'm pleased with the results. I wouldn't run the Dbol again though, I think there are better compounds out there for a kickstart. I take my 6th shot tomorrow, my blood levels should be rising nicely now, I hope to have the test kick in around week 3 or 4, but that may be asking for too much. I think it will kick in around week 5. I also kind of wish I would have frontloaded the first 2 doses, so my blood levels would be level the whole time, with the exception of the frontload, but I have heard there are downsides to frontloading like bad sides.

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    Strength is up again. Put 20lbs on incline bench. Went from 205 to 225. Had to cut the workout a little short today cause of the back pumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king6
    Strength is up again. Put 20lbs on incline bench. Went from 205 to 225. Had to cut the workout a little short today cause of the back pumps.
    back pumps on chest day? thats crazy!.....post some damn pics foo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haro3
    back pumps on chest day? thats crazy!.....post some damn pics foo
    Yeah, I couldn't understand where the pumps came from. As for the pics, they are trapped on my phone. The transfer cable is $50, but the ass clowns I work for have not started me yet. Which has left me extremely stressed and worried. My car insurance is due, and as of right now I don't know how I am going to pay it. But what has me really worried is I need to go food shopping soon, and I wont have any money for food. Something has gotta give, and soon.

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    Day 20

    Did bi's and tri's today. Strength up a little, not a whole lot. I get some pretty good pumps though. Looking forward to the Test kicking in. I just hope I am not one of those people that taked 8 weeks to see results.

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    hey i pmed u

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    Took today off. Also starting a melanotan II cycle. Just did my first injection 5 min ago. Did 1mg to see how the sides are. Already I have some facial flushing. I hope I don't get nausia or painful boners.

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    Last night was kind of rough. I didn't sleep well at all. About 15 min after my melanotan injection my face and mid chest up got real red. That didn't last long though, but then I woke up at midnight and 0300, due to upset stomach. Overall it wasn't too bad though. Look forward to getting that dark tan.

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    I've been watching.

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    Day 22

    Starting week 4 now, and did shoulders today. I have put 20lbs on my military press since my last shoulder day. Went from 195 to 215. I made a habit of slamming the weights on the bar. It makes me feel good when everyone looks over with surprise to see that I'm doing 215 on military. Side raises also went up from 35lb dumbells to 40lb dumbells. And BB shrugs went from 335 to 365. Next time I will shoot for 405. Got a week left of the Dbol , so I hope the test kicks in by the time I stop. I did my 7th injection today. Nuts are still the same size, no sex drive increase, no oily skin, no bloat, and no acne. So I got that going for me.

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    Sounds real strong right now. You could not ask for better progress, right? Don't forget those tendons, joints, elbows, etc. aren't 'growing' like those muscles. Keep good, tight form hitting that big weight. You'll thank yourself 10 weeks from now.

    Keep it going! Hit 'em hard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primalinstinct
    Sounds real strong right now. You could not ask for better progress, right? Don't forget those tendons, joints, elbows, etc. aren't 'growing' like those muscles. Keep good, tight form hitting that big weight. You'll thank yourself 10 weeks from now.

    Keep it going! Hit 'em hard!
    very true! adding strength quick has injury written all over it! becareful

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    Absolutly, I could have pushed the military press to 225. But I know better than to push my shoulders that hard. Shoulder injuries are one thing I don't want to screw around with.

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    Hey King, great progress so far. I'm 5 weeks into a similar cycle and have been following yours and haro's logs finally decided to post. Keep it up bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamikehat
    Hey King, great progress so far. I'm 5 weeks into a similar cycle and have been following yours and haro's logs finally decided to post. Keep it up bro.
    Thanks, glad to have fans. Also glad I can provide info for people looking to try their first cycles.


    On a seperate note, I did my second Melanotan injection, no facial flushing this time. I guess I adapted to it pretty quick. Once the first vial is done, I think I will mix a stronger concentration for the second one. But I will see how the first vial goes.

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    Did chest today. Strength was up a little. But I think the huge strength gain from my last chest workout caught up with me. My bones and joints were hurting today so I had to take it easy. I hope the test kicks in soon, can't wait for the muscles to grow. Also I'm up to about 190 in the mornings, which is a 13lb gain since I started, so I guess I'm right on track.

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    Yeah your strength will slowly go up everday it seems. Make sure you have plenty of rest time..growing this fast is hell on your joints. Week 5 for me has become kind of a guessing game during workouts...it's like well how heavy do I want to go today. Anyway, up 13lbs is a good start and no I'm not going to berate you and tell you to eat more like everyone else...BTW I'm interested in the Melanotan progress keep us updated.


    EAT MORE

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    Took today off to let my body rest up. Up about 14lbs now, and got a few days left of the dbol . I did my fourth melanotan injection tonight, this time I upped the dose to 1.5mg, and tomorrow I will tan in the bed. I'm getting jealous of everyone elses' posts, they are at week 3 or 4 and their test is kicking in. I'm in the middle of week 4 and nothing yet. I hope it kicks in soon, I can't wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king6
    Took today off to let my body rest up. Up about 14lbs now, and got a few days left of the dbol. I did my fourth melanotan injection tonight, this time I upped the dose to 1.5mg, and tomorrow I will tan in the bed. I'm getting jealous of everyone elses' posts, they are at week 3 or 4 and their test is kicking in. I'm in the middle of week 4 and nothing yet. I hope it kicks in soon, I can't wait.
    ull know when it does too...mine didnt kick in hard till week 6 or so....i was starting to question it then one day i realized that every girl i looked at that lil mofo just wanted to pop up hahahahahaha makes it hell when ur lifting in a college rec with hot chicks everywhere ahahahhahahahah worth it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haro3
    ull know when it does too...mine didnt kick in hard till week 6 or so....i was starting to question it then one day i realized that every girl i looked at that lil mofo just wanted to pop up hahahahahaha makes it hell when ur lifting in a college rec with hot chicks everywhere ahahahhahahahah worth it..

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    I start Tommorow no kickstart though so I dont know if ill start a thread since it could be 3-5 weeks before I even start to see anything. Im going to try fontloading since you mentioned it

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    Frontloading is the way to go. When it starts to kick in you should really be able to tell.

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    good thread man, where are the pics!?!?!

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    Took yesterday off, and should have took today off as well. It was snowing all day, and the cobra doesn't drive well in it. So I couldn't go to the gym until 6. So I was already tired and didn't have a good lift. Tomorrow is my last day on Dbol , I hope the test kicks in soon after, otherwise I will have to deal with the weight loss and loss of strength. I have gained a total of 17lbs since the start. And that was 2 weeks of 40mg and 2 weeks of 20mg of Dbol. Overall not too bad. Can't wait for the real stuff to kick in. I hear the gains off test are awesome.

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    Hey what phone service you got? I have verizon and you can upload your pictures to a website for free and pull them off your phone so you dont need a cable you should look into it or let me know what service you got and Ill check it out for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhriscerr
    Hey what phone service you got? I have verizon and you can upload your pictures to a website for free and pull them off your phone so you dont need a cable you should look into it or let me know what service you got and Ill check it out for ya.
    I originally tried to E-mail the pictures to myself, but that did not work. And has not worked. I tried E-mailing to others, but no dice. I should start work in a week or two, so then I should be ok.

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    Did bi's and tri's today. I have been off the Dbol for two days now. My strength went up a little today, so maybe I got stonger since the last time I did arms. I just hope my strength holds out until the test fully kicks in. Today is day one of week 5.

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    Did shoulders today. Strength was up for military press, but down for side DB raises. Today is my third day off Dbol . So maybe the strength gains for military press is the test starting to kick in. But I am not sure what it feels like when the test kicks in. Some describe that supercharged feeling. I feel the same, just a little stronger. I will know more by my next shoulder day, if my strength goes up again.

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