The Deuce's Year Long LOG

**BIG_TRUCK** · 04-13-2009, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by The Deuce

P.S.- Just started my WINSTROL today... ate a 50 mg tablet...

QUESTION : Should I have split it into two doses?? One in the AM and One right before I work out?? Or does it not matter??

Split it AM & before workout.

**The Deuce** · 04-13-2009, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by BIG_TRUCK

I'm reading this still.

Most just read & only respond if you need help.

Remember, don't get to carried away with dosages and trying make a cocktail of every steroid known to man. Keep it some what simple & it will still be effective so don't worry.

About your TRT & Cruize question. I'm also on TRT and the normal prescribed dosage is for old sedentary males in their later years, not for active males in their younger years. So I like the idea of a higher TRT / Cruize dsoage to keep your gains, and overall have you still progressing & not just maintaining. You could get away with 250mgs / week, and I think you would be able to keep most of your strength & size off that, But 300mgs is what I would do.

BTW I'm sending you a pm.

Ok yah that makes sense... lol...

Ummm yah you are right I try not to go crazy with dosages...

I appreciate that you like the idea of the cruise better... I figured I would keep more of my gains that way... since I am trying to chose the career path of a bodybuilder....

And about the PM ... Send away my brotha ... send away !!

**The Deuce** · 04-13-2009, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by BIG_TRUCK

Split it AM & before workout.

Does it matter that I just took the one 50mg tab today and then starting tomorrow I can split it up??

***FireGuy*** · 04-13-2009, 02:51 PM

May I ask what the purpose of the winny is with your bodyfat level so high???

**The Deuce** · 04-13-2009, 05:49 PM

I like the STRENGTH gains from WINNY... I am not looking for the other benefits from it... I didn't want to use an oral like DBOL or ANADROL for strength on the tailend of the cutting cycle so I went with WINNY. My bodyfat is yah.. yah it's high I aint gonna lie... but it's not out of control... 18.43% at last calculation...

**The Deuce** · 04-15-2009, 06:12 PM

Quick Update !!

FOR SOME REASON....

I went and took a dose of CABERGOLINE today and for some reason... i dont know if it is from the CABER but I feel like total sh1t... FELL ASLEEP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY FOR 3 AND A HALF HOURS !!!

Is this a normal side effects to caber?? I mean.. I feel right run right down... I am forcing myself to go to the gym... cause I know I have to.. but... I dont want to.. and I always want to go to the GYM !!

Like I said I dont know if I am just having an off day or what or if it is the Caber... someone please let me know I aint losing my mind... I'll be back in a few hours after I finish my workout... hopefully I will feel better then... UGH !!

**The Deuce** · 04-24-2009, 03:59 PM

After Being on the Winny for Only 2 weeks I have yet again changed my mind and dropped it from my cycle. I will be saving them for a later date.

So currently I am running a Test Only Cycle.

Test Propinate at 100mgs ED.

Today is the End of Week 8. I will be running the Prop for 4 more weeks at 100mgs ED. I might if I feel up to it... but I probably won't run it for an extra 4 weeks at 100mgs ED... for a total of 16 weeks total but that is all up in the air. I did a lot of thinking over these past 8 weeks in where my body has made a drastic change and I love it... But That is when I start to get in the mind set where I go nuts and just wanna run crazy doses all the time... I guess you could say it's the addictive personality in me or whatever but hey... What can I say... I LOVE AAS !!

So... That being said.... I will be returning to my TRT dose of 200mgs of Cypionate EW for 24 weeks and 1iu of HGH 6 on 1 Off for 6 months... (I know to most of you this seems like a very low dose of HGH but I don't really care ... I have talked with plenty of people who say this is sufficient first timers dosage for a cruise dosage until my next cycle.) .. I feel that is the best for my health and well being. During that 6 weeks though... somewhere in the middle out of nowhere I am going to do a 3 week spurt of the Pro-Hormone SuperDrol (just because I have heard a lot of good things about this so I am gonna give it a real go.)

So in either 4 weeks or 8 weeks I will be wrapping up this cycle... still undetermined.... I now I have a very indecisive mind but hey that's fine... This has been a real learning experience for me. And that's all that truly matters.

I appreciate all the help that all of you have given me along the way. It has made me understand that I DON'T NEED ALL KINDS OF COMPOUNDS TO ACHIEVE MY GOALS !!! And for that I am very grateful !!

I will be Posting up the Pics of Myself upon completetion of this cycle to show you uys exactly how much my body went through a transformation. It's Truly unbelievable !! I am very pleased with myself... very !!

**BIG_TRUCK** · 04-25-2009, 09:04 PM

Where's these pics you speak of?

**remotely queued** · 04-25-2009, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by The Deuce

Quick Update !!

FOR SOME REASON....

I went and took a dose of CABERGOLINE today and for some reason... i dont know if it is from the CABER but I feel like total sh1t... FELL ASLEEP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY FOR 3 AND A HALF HOURS !!!

Is this a normal side effects to caber?? I mean.. I feel right run right down... I am forcing myself to go to the gym... cause I know I have to.. but... I dont want to.. and I always want to go to the GYM !!

Like I said I dont know if I am just having an off day or what or if it is the Caber... someone please let me know I aint losing my mind... I'll be back in a few hours after I finish my workout... hopefully I will feel better then... UGH !!

did you just stop taking it? a lot of people are allergic to ergot derivatives. including myself.
with that doseage you'll never have to worry about the risk of ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome.
kidding.
lets see some pictures dude?

**The Deuce** · 04-29-2009, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by BIG_TRUCK

Where's these pics you speak of?

Originally Posted by remotely queued

did you just stop taking it? a lot of people are allergic to ergot derivatives. including myself.
with that doseage you'll never have to worry about the risk of ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome.
kidding.
lets see some pictures dude?

OK OK OK PICS WILL BE UP WITHIN THE NEXT 48 hours !!!

***D7M*** · 05-03-2009, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by The Deuce

OK OK OK PICS WILL BE UP WITHIN THE NEXT 48 hours !!!

bump.

how are things going, Deuce?

**The Deuce** · 05-12-2009, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by derek7m

bump.

how are things going, Deuce?

Hahaha sorry... Kinda lost track of this thread.. I got the sense no one was paying any attention to it and I was devoting a lot of time to it PLUS I just got married so it's been a rough couple of weeks...

Yah things are going GREAT !!!

MY BODY has done a total 180. On start of this cycle I was 219lbs. 23.76% BF... Right now... almost at the end of week 11 I am 222lbs. 16.53%BF...

The cycle itself has been a jumbled mess... I did 3 weeks of NPP before I discontinued it because I didnt like it because I wasn't running a high enough dose of it... then I ran Winny for 2 weeks and stopped it also so I could save 28 tabs (4 wks worth) for at the very end of my cycle... figured they would have been better utilized then...

Just started my Proviron which I am going to be running from now until well... through DECEMBER... at 50mgs ED.

Not only has my body changed but so hasn't the weights in the Gym just gone through the roof... friggen total domination.. waay more strength then I thought possible. Even though this has been an all over the place cycle I am so highly impressed with it I can hardly believe it myself.

Upon completion of this cycle when I return to TRT for 12-16 weeks I feel I will be well on my way to getting my body ready for competition shape for the December 5th event in CULVER CITY,CA where I am going to try and compete in my first NOVICE event... pretty pumped for that... so yah all this wrapped together I am highly stoked.. thanks for asking bro!!!

***D7M*** · 05-12-2009, 05:55 PM

Yep, I was following your jumbled mess of a cycle

Glad to hear you're making good progress.

post up some updated pics when you get a chance,

and keep kicking ass till that comp.

**Phate** · 05-12-2009, 10:14 PM

i just found this thread, wish i would've known about it sooner, i would've loved to help you with your diet

**The Deuce** · 05-16-2009, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

i just found this thread, wish i would've known about it sooner, i would've loved to help you with your diet

I wish you would have too !!!! I bet I would have gotten waaay better gains then I did.. but overall I am very impressed with my cycle that I ran... even though it was a jumbled mess.. an experiment but a jumbled mess all around...

I am cutting short too... instead of running it 16 weeks.. stopping at around 13 weeks... I want to get back on TRT as quickly as possible to allow my body to fully recover and achieve homeostasis so I can work on putting together my next cycle. A proper cycle... a BULKING CYCLE !!!

This is was a cutter of sorts... I mean I went from 219lbs. 24.6% BF ---- to now currently 223lbs. 16.59%BF ... My body did a complete and 100% 180 !! I look phenomenal again... it's been sooo long since I looked this good. I was in a bad bad bad bad motorcycle accident.. almost lost my life. T-boned by a pick-up... in a coma... bed ridden for like 6 months.. went from 235lbs. 12% BF to 303lbs. 39% BF while I was laid up !!! Turned myself into a fat fvck !! LOL... but I knew before I jumped back on any form of cycle I needed to get my diet and training back in order so before I even stuck a needle in my body again I hit the gym.. and I hit it hard !!! Thats how I got down to 219 and 24.6% BF... Yah I probably should have waited longer before I did this cutting cycle. But I monitored myself... Stayed semi-strict to my diet.. of course I had a few slip ups but... hey now I am back in the GAME !!!

So I am cutting the cycle short like I said at 13.5 weeks... jumping up the Test to 125mgs ED for the last 2 weeks just to use up all the PROP I have and allow the TRT to get into my body... meaning... I have 17 days til I am out of Prop so in 3 days I start injecting my ENAN... so I figured I will blast out the last 2 weeks at 125mgs ED of Prop.

I will be on 250mgs EW of Testosterone Enanthate and 50mgs ED of Proviron for the next 12 weeks following this cycle. During which I am devising my next cycle.. a BULKER of Epic proportions !!

I'll be running the Bulker for 16 weeks.

1-16 Testosterone Cypionate 800mgs EW
1-12 Tri-Tren .35ml ED (490mgs EW) [I wanna Experiment with this compound !!] {Dosed at 200mgs/ml}
1-16 Proviron 75mgs ED
1-6 T-Bol 50mgs ED
12-16 Anavar 100mgs ED

1-16 A-dex .25mgs EOD (Maybe?? If it's Needed Doubt it will be because of the Proviron)
1-14 Cabergoline .5mgs E3D (Running it until the Tren leaves my system in week 14)

Then of course on completion of this Bulking cycle... BACK to my TRT dose of 250mgs EW.

What do ya Think Phate?? Sound good?? I think it does !!!

**Phate** · 05-16-2009, 06:22 PM

1-16 Testosterone Cypionate 800mgs EW
1-12 Tri-Tren .35ml ED (490mgs EW) [I wanna Experiment with this compound !!] {Dosed at 200mgs/ml}
1-16 Proviron 75mgs ED
1-6 T-Bol 50mgs ED
12-16 Anavar 100mgs ED

1-16 A-dex .25mgs EOD (Maybe?? If it's Needed Doubt it will be because of the Proviron)
1-14 Cabergoline .5mgs E3D (Running it until the Tren leaves my system in week 14)

don't run the adex unless needed

i would switch out the tbol for dbol /anadrol if you are bulking

**The Deuce** · 05-17-2009, 08:34 AM

Well honestly bro... I dont like DBOL ... I love Anadrol dont get me wrong but i was using the TBOL more or less to not kickstart my cycle since at the start of the cycle i will already hve synthetic Test running through my system (TRT) but more for like a 6 week slam of Lean muscle and strength gains that TBOL has been known to produce.. Does that make sense bro?

Or should i opt for 4 weeks of the drol .. and i run drol 100mgs for 2 weeks 125mgs 3rd week and 150 mgs the 4th week ED.. am I on the right path on dosing that? Reason being... week 2 i stop strength gains so i learned to up it another half a tab ED each week to not allow my body to adjust to the dose until the cessation of the 4 weeks is up.

IF I can run the TBOL I'd rather but if you honestly think I need the DROL to BULK then I will go that route.. if it makes that much of a difference ... I trust your judgement bro !!!

***D7M*** · 05-17-2009, 08:36 AM

^oh, definitely go with the drol over the t-bol, Deuce. Definitely.

**Phate** · 05-17-2009, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by derek7m

^oh, definitely go with the drol over the t-bol, Deuce. Definitely.

i'm gonna agree with derek, though i've never run either(i haven't cycled yet remember), the accounts from friends of mine indicate that anadrol is much better for mass, and even strength in some cases

as far as the pyramid dosing, it will cause slight instability in blood serum levels as you add more each week, but it can be done that way if you want to, personally i would just run 150mg/day for the 4 weeks

**The Deuce** · 05-17-2009, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by derek7m

^oh, definitely go with the drol over the t-bol, Deuce. Definitely.

Alrighty then ... DROL it is !!

Originally Posted by Phate

i'm gonna agree with derek, though i've never run either(i haven't cycled yet remember), the accounts from friends of mine indicate that anadrol is much better for mass, and even strength in some cases

as far as the pyramid dosing, it will cause slight instability in blood serum levels as you add more each week, but it can be done that way if you want to, personally i would just run 150mg/day for the 4 weeks

Oh I remember now.. haha that's right you haven't officially crossed into the DARKSIDE so to speak.. but man I wish I had done what you are doing .. or at least what I think you are doing (gaining as much knowledge as you can about everything before putting anything into your body) [is that accurate brotha??]

So yah I dont know if I am down for pumping 150mgs right away from the start but if I have to I will.. ya know?

**Phate** · 05-17-2009, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by The Deuce

Alrighty then ... DROL it is !!

Oh I remember now.. haha that's right you haven't officially crossed into the DARKSIDE so to speak.. but man I wish I had done what you are doing .. or at least what I think you are doing (gaining as much knowledge as you can about everything before putting anything into your body) [is that accurate brotha??]

So yah I dont know if I am down for pumping 150mgs right away from the start but if I have to I will.. ya know?

yeah you got it right, i'm just waiting till i think i've gotten close to my natural potential

and if you aren't comfortable with it than start at a lower dose, no point in trying to push your comfort zone with these things

**The Deuce** · 05-17-2009, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

yeah you got it right, i'm just waiting till i think i've gotten close to my natural potential

and if you aren't comfortable with it than start at a lower dose, no point in trying to push your comfort zone with these things

Exactly !!

I just feel the way I run it.. the way I explained before is well works for me.. if it does make my blood levels wacky maybe I will try running 150mgs ED for 30 days ... why not right?? What's the worst thats gonna happen?? I'm gonna get big?? haha oh well !! LOL

Anyways its rather moot at this point since i wont be starting this cycle for another 15-16 weeks but it's good to have a plan on what I will be doing.. I am more excited to give the TREN BLEND a whirl... I like experimenting.. PLUS ... TREN is my fave of all compounds.. it's absolutely ridiculous what it does .. such an awesome all around perfect compound.. when ran correctly...

**The Deuce** · 05-17-2009, 08:20 PM

** UPDATE **

For these last 2.3 WEEKS (16 DAYS) Of my cycle... I am going to SLAM it !!!

All out going to utilize everyday to it's maximum !!! I need to.. I can't imagine I am going to make ridiculous gains within the last 16 days but just so I use up all of my Prop I get to bump it to 125mgs ED for the last 18 days... so who knows that might add for a quick bump !! After this is completed I will be returning to TRT dosage of 250mgs EW... It's going to be a hell of a drop... but I think I will still feel fine and obviously still make gains... with HARD WORK AND DEDICATION of course... so.. HERE IT IS...

CRUNCH TIME !!!

**Phate** · 05-17-2009, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by The Deuce

** UPDATE **

For these last 2.3 WEEKS (16 DAYS) Of my cycle... I am going to SLAM it !!!

All out going to utilize everyday to it's maximum !!! I need to.. I can't imagine I am going to make ridiculous gains within the last 16 days but just so I use up all of my Prop I get to bump it to 125mgs ED for the last 18 days... so who knows that might add for a quick bump !! After this is completed I will be returning to TRT dosage of 250mgs EW... It's going to be a hell of a drop... but I think I will still feel fine and obviously still make gains... with HARD WORK AND DEDICATION of course... so.. HERE IT IS...

CRUNCH TIME !!!

how are you going to accomplish this?

**The Deuce** · 05-17-2009, 09:09 PM

huh?

**The Deuce** · 05-17-2009, 09:10 PM

what do u mean bro?

**Phate** · 05-17-2009, 09:12 PM

i mean what are you going to do to turn up the intensity? more volume? supersets? stop sets? new method altogether?

**The Deuce** · 05-17-2009, 09:25 PM

NOT that i haven't been working hard the whole time... i just meant ... you know lol... hitting harder... lol... i dont know ya kinda caught me off guard there....

**marcmoran** · 05-17-2009, 11:01 PM

Hey bro great progress, I like the Dec competition GOAL!!!

**Phate** · 05-18-2009, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by The Deuce

NOT that i haven't been working hard the whole time... i just meant ... you know lol... hitting harder... lol... i dont know ya kinda caught me off guard there....

Lol, i know you've been working hard, that's why i was wondering how you could go harder, i would change your training methods a little, blindside your body a little to keep it off balance

**The Deuce** · 05-18-2009, 03:38 PM

Good idea !! Switching it up today... LEGS day !!

SQUATS !!

My Favorite excercise Ever !!

**Phate** · 05-18-2009, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by The Deuce

Good idea !! Switching it up today... LEGS day !!

SQUATS !!

My Favorite excercise Ever !!

ever tried pre exhausting before squats? though your form has to be spot on or you can use a smith machine to make sure you don't fall

**The Deuce** · 05-18-2009, 08:27 PM

No I never have tried that... Might have to next time.. Its Always either my first or Second Exercise on Legs day... supplemented out with HEAVY Leg Presses...

So my workout for tonight went as follows... LEGS (Quad Focus)

Squats 4 sets - 135/10reps, 225/10reps, 315/8reps, 405/6reps

Hack Squats 3 sets - 270/10reps, 360/8reps, 450/6reps

Leg Presses 4 sets - 450/10reps, 540/8reps, 630/6reps-dropset 270/10reps (6 second down, 1 second push)

Leg Extensions 3 sets - 200/10reps, 220/8reps, 240/6reps

DB Squat Thrusts 3 sets - 30lbDB/10reps, 40lbDB/8reps, 50lbDB/6reps

Kettlebell Swings 2 sets - 12kgKB/20reps, 20kg/10reps

Cardio = 2.2mi on Elliptical 20min Level 7 = HR 160Bpm max Avg 150 Bpm = Machine Said 365 Cals Burned.. but I don't ever count that as an accurate count.

**Hunter-S-Thompson** · 05-19-2009, 06:53 AM

nice progress from the sounds of it, where's those pics!?

**The Deuce** · 05-19-2009, 07:06 AM

I hope the pics do me good.. I mean I CAN LOOK DOWN UPON MY OWN BODY AND PICK OUT EVERY SINGLE CHANGE MY BODY HAS GONE THROUGH WHICH MUSCLES HAVE ACTUALLY EXPLODED IN VOLUME AND WHICH ONES ARE LACKING... Just hope they do me Justice thats all... ya know??

**The Deuce** · 05-20-2009, 08:48 AM

Did a slamming CHEST WORKOUT YESTERDAY !! (Incline slam)

Incline Chest Press 3 sets - 135/10, 185/10, 225/6

Flat Bench Press 3 sets - 135/10, 225/8, 225/6

Flat Bench DB 3 sets - 70/10, 75/8, 80/6

Incline Adv Plate Load Press 3 sets - 140/10, 160/8, 180/6

Incline DB Flyes 3 sets - 50/12, 60/10, 65/10

Dips (Bodyweight) 2 sets - 15 , 10

PUMPSETS-

Tricep Pushdown - 80lb/35 reps

BW Dips 10wide,5close

Cardio - High intensity - 2.21 Miles (15 min) 350 cals burned (or so the machine says)

HIGHLY IMPRESSED WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF ME IN MY WORKOUT !!! Weights could have been heavier... should have made them heavier... but I didn't... I pre-write my scheduled workout before I get to the gym and just follow what i write down... Oh well.. next chest workout should be a lot heavier ... but in not such a fashion that I sacrifice form and performance...

**The Deuce** · 05-29-2009, 08:17 PM

I had been feeling a lil bit bloated lately... I have been slacking off in the gym. Only been twice in the past week. Just totally screwed my diet up... for the past 9 days... 0 cardio...

I have been severely depressed... Partly because I didn't achieve what I set out to do with this cycle...so I basically said FVCK IT !! With 2 weeks left... I dont know why... HAD other outside influences going on too mind you... I did get married... and that was awesome just anyways...what A SUCK ASS CYCLE.. 13 weeks ... I... I ... I have like 12 days left.. I started this cycle at 23.96% bf... another measurement gave me a 24.78%BF... but either way I was FAT and out of shape... for AAS standards... I was an idiot !!! I should have never gone on them... DID I MAKE PROGRESS?? Yes... I got a lot bigger... MUSCULARLY speaking.. but I DIDNT DROP THE BODY FAT... I went from 215lbs. let's go with the 24.78%BF to 229lbs. 21.71% BF when I measured myself today...

At one point.. halfway through cycle I was 219 and 18%.. I just can't believe I let this happen...

I AM SO UPSET WITH MYSELF...

I mean I am BIGGER now... Muscle wise... I am leaner... FAT WISE... but cmon... I am still over the 20% mark for BF percentage... WTF !! I have no reason being anywhere near AAS right now... NO WHERE NEAR THEM !!! As much as I happen to LOVE them...

I just Thank God I had no negative sides associated with this.. MY BP was kept in check. I'll have a full blood work run up on me a month after my last injection...

I AM ON TRT though so.. it's not like I wont be having any sort of TEST being put into me.

250mgs EW ... and I am going to stay on this dose for a long long time... Until I am down to 16% BF... IT'S TIME FOR ME TO BE SPENDING ALL MY TIME IN THE DIET FORUM !!!

I have 11 injections left of my Prop and I think another full week or so before my TRT dose will be active in my body soooo... I am going to finish it off... TRY MY HARDEST TO MAXIMIZE THE REST OF MY CYCLE !!

Time to really PAY THE FVCK ATTENTION and get to what I was meant to do.. I mean WTF !!! What a lazy a$$ fvck I am... ugh... disgusted with myself....

I am impressed with progress I have already MADE.. don't get me wrong but... I should have done it on my TRT not on cycle.. I should have been smarter... I feel like an idiot... WOW!! I know I am beating myself a lot up about this but I kind have to.. I have 14 days left of days that I will have 800mgs(ew) worth of TEST active in my system... so I need to utilize it to it's maximum...

SORRY GUYS.. SORRY.. NOT ONLY DID I LET MYSELF DOWN.. I FEEL LIKE I LET YOU GUYS DOWN TOO... MY BAD... I SWEAR I WILL DO BETTER NEXT TIME AS FAR AS BEING SMART ... AND WAITING...

I got a long road ahead of me... and I know you guys will help me along on the journey... THANKS FOR BEING THERE FOR ME.. APPRECIATE IT BIG TIME BROS... BIG TIME !!!

**The Deuce** · 05-29-2009, 08:29 PM

I'll be Posting up PICTURES tomorrow just so you guys can see, I know you think I am being a little rough on me... I know I have gotten huge... I know it.. I am 229lbs... that's not small... and hey at least I carry it well... They are only of upper body... none of my LEGS... which I FEEL are like Tree Trunks.. I'll work on getting those and I will let you guys be the judge of my progress over the last 10 weeks.. alright??

**** MAKE SURE YOU READ PREVIOUS POST AND NOT JUST THINK THIS WAS THE ONLY POST I MADE****

***D7M*** · 05-29-2009, 09:02 PM

don't beat yourself, Deuce.

live and learn.

use your feelings now as motivation to do better next time around.

**The Deuce** · 05-30-2009, 11:38 AM

HERE ARE THE MOST RECENT PICS !! Taken on May 29th at 11:00pm

COMPARE THEM TO THE FIRST PICS... MAJOR MAJOR GAINS But not what i would have expected... oh well... it is what it is...

There are many many YEARS ahead of me to turn my BODY into what I want and many many more cycles to bring me to my GOAL but oh well.. I am not so let down now that I look at the pictures now.. I did GAIN big time.. I do finally look like I started to look like before my accident... just need a few more fat lbs. to drop off... lol.. I'LL MAKE IT ... especially with the help of you guys !!! Thanks for EVERYTHING BRO'S !!!