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    mastablasta7 is offline Associate Member
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    Test/EQ/Dbol second cycle

    Alright heres what my next cycle is going to look like. I would just like some feedback on what you guys think.

    Height: 6'2
    Weight: 215
    Bf: ??

    Cycle:
    Weeks 1-15 Test E 500mgs
    Weeks 1-15 EQ 400mgs
    Weeks 1-4 Dbol 40mgs

    I was thinking about upping the test to 650mgs a week or upping the EQ to 500mgs since i have extra gear on hand.

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    You were 12% roughly a month ago according to Sustaplex 325 cycle

    So I would imagine you aren't far off from there. Cycle looks fine. I'd bump EQ to 500mg and keep the Test the same. Don't run more gear just because you have it on hand. Get away with the least amount that will make you grow.

    Planned PCT?

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    Indeed i gained 20 pounds from my last cycle and i assume my BF is about the same I cut that cycle down to 8 weeks but upped the dosage a bit and ive been on PCT now for a week.

    This is supposed to be another bulk cycle but i was thinking about throwing in some winny for weeks 13-17

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    I'll up the EQ to 500 then and i have clomid/nolva on hand. Im going to take Arimadex at .25mg ED throughout cycle as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastablasta7 View Post
    I'll up the EQ to 500 then and i have clomid/nolva on hand. Im going to take Arimadex at .25mg ED throughout cycle as well.
    Don't forget a liver protectant for that oral.

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    You would probably benefit from Win at a BF lower then 10% more so then your current stats. With this being your 2nd cycle, I'd keep it just the way it is. No need for any more compounds. Dose and duration look good. When I asked "planned pct" I meant what your protocol was going to look like.

    You getting any blood work done once this PCT is finished?

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    Yea im getting some blood work done right when i finish PCT. Ok i think ill leave my cycle how it is other then upping the dose of EQ. Ive always ran a liver cleanser post prohormone/cycle would it be wise to run some milk thisle while on the dbol ?

    Weeks 17-20
    Nolva 40/20/20/20
    Clomid 100/50/50/50

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    Liv52 or Liver Juice will do.

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    Alright i'll look into it. Ive heard from a friend its not good to run any liver protection until you are done with your oral. Any thoughts on this?

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    What's his logic behind that?

    The point of supplementing a liver care product is to use it while your liver is undergoing the most stress (aka during the cycle, not after). Your liver isn't really doing much work once your done with the cycle so running the product post cycle wouldn't be too smart.

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    Nowadays its knew that liver protection just dont work with oral steroids , ppl now use to run it post orals to regen the damaged hepatics cells faster

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    My friend claims that using a liver protection will make the oral less effective.

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    Ok heres my updated cycle.

    Week 1-15 Test E 500mg/w
    Week 1-15 EQ 500mg/w
    Week 1-4 40mg/day
    Week 1-15 Arimadex .25mg/day
    Week 11-20 HCG 500iu/w
    Week 17-20 Nolva 40/20/20/20
    Week 17-20 Clomid 100/50/50/50

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    My diet is going to be high cal/carb/protien because I'm hoping to get to at least 245(30 pounds) and at least 100 pounds on my bench press max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mar-Vell View Post
    Nowadays its knew that liver protection just dont work with oral steroids, ppl now use to run it post orals to regen the damaged hepatics cells faster
    Quote Originally Posted by mastablasta7 View Post
    My friend claims that using a liver protection will make the oral less effective.
    Both news to me. I've never had any issues with orals being less potent.

    Since HCG mimics LH and interrupts your HPTA feedback loop the same way Test does, I see no point in keeping it in PCT. Keep it pre-PCT.

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