My Cutting Cycle Test e/t3/clen starting 1/31/11

**ufc8581** · 02-23-2011, 12:27 PM

yea i know they are bad pics .. and ill get full body pics later this week .. thats jus what i had atm ... well the 11% is from one of them hand held testers which is a piece of crap i kjnow but i started at 20% with it ... everyone in the gym cant belive how much ive grown and cut at the same time .. i know i measured my arms before and they was like 17 n now they are over 18 ...my upper abs are starting to show a lil and lower still has a little bf left to drop but comeing off very nicely .. them love handles are almost gone.. but like i said better pic by end of the week ..

**BgMc31** · 02-23-2011, 01:23 PM

I would love to see 585 squat for 15. Most of the best strength athletes in the world can't do this. Especially at such a low body weight. Are we talking about real squats, hack squats, some type of machine squats, or you're only going down a couple inches. Video proof, please.

**ufc8581** · 02-23-2011, 01:56 PM

its squat rack squats bro but now its not full squat i got about half way to about 3/4 way down .. now take a plate off and i can do full squats at 495 for set of 15

**dec11** · 02-23-2011, 02:11 PM

mate no harm, but im a former national powerlifter and theres no way you are squatting that type of weight, i dont even believe the 495lbs unless you are just bending your knees 1"
i know guys who went european level and dont even squat those sorta reps, sorry but i call BS

**ufc8581** · 02-23-2011, 02:18 PM

hey u can call it whatever u want bro i really dont care .. u dont have to believe me if u dont want ..thats you i mean really why would i have to lie about the weight have no reason to .. ive always been strong on squats and i say always .. i go heavy as i can and hard as i can sometimes i push my self so hard on legs i almost pass out .. and before i started cycle i could do 4 reps at 495 full squat then each week i was able to do more like first week i got 6 then next i got 9 then the next i push out 15 .. ne ways i dont have to defned myself on a computer this is like my long book .. u can have ur doubts o well

**BgMc31** · 02-23-2011, 04:34 PM

So you're telling me that at your bodyweight you can rep more than 3 time America's strongest man, Derek Poundstone who struggled with 600 for 7 (tore his quad on the 8th rep)? I'll ask you the same question, why exaggerate your weights? It makes no sense. But your claims are absolutely unbelievable and not only have I been a nationally ranked powerlifter, but I was a nationally ranked strongman as well. I've trained with some of the strongest men on the planet, and those numbers you're suggesting are world class and simply unbelievable. YOu can always shut us all up by posting video.

**dec11** · 02-23-2011, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by BgMc31

So you're telling me that at your bodyweight you can rep more than 3 time America's strongest man, Derek Poundstone who struggled with 600 for 7 (tore his quad on the 8th rep)? I'll ask you the same question, why exaggerate your weights? It makes no sense. But your claims are absolutely unbelievable and not only have I been a nationally ranked powerlifter, but I was a nationally ranked strongman as well. I've trained with some of the strongest men on the planet, and those numbers you're suggesting are world class and simply unbelievable. YOu can always shut us all up by posting video.

lol, awaiting the answer to this. OP, you do realise we're not stupid and have been in strength training for a long long time between the two of us?

**ufc8581** · 02-23-2011, 07:20 PM

yes i do understand this .. and jus to tell u i said at 585 i do not do full reps go re read .. but at 495 i do always get 10-15 full reps .. look first off im not here for a dick measuring competition and if u dont wanna read my post then stay off of it simple as that .. and when i can get someone to video i will ..until then stay off my blog here blowing it up with this bull .. not trying to be a dick but im not lieing to you about all this ... and i did tonight get 10 full reps tonight at 495 jus didnt have no one to video

**BgMc31** · 02-23-2011, 07:41 PM

Vets like us keep the forum going. It's not just the role of the mods but everyone on here, that keeps this forum a legit place to obtain legit information. Having people post inflated numbers hurts the credibility of the forum. For you to state 585 then backtrack and say they weren't full reps and then claim 495 for full reps, makes you look suspect. Why would you do 585 for half reps? Why didn't you just post 495 for 10-15 initially. No, you posted 585 for 15.

So no, we won't stay off your thread on anyone else's. If keeping people honest on these forums makes us dicks, so be it. If you want to post inflated numbers, go to bb.com. We take this shit serious around here.

**dec11** · 02-23-2011, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by ufc8581

yes i do understand this .. and jus to tell u i said at 585 i do not do full reps go re read .. but at 495 i do always get 10-15 full reps .. look first off im not here for a dick measuring competition and if u dont wanna read my post then stay off of it simple as that .. and when i can get someone to video i will ..until then stay off my blog here blowing it up with this bull .. not trying to be a dick but im not lieing to you about all this ... and i did tonight get 10 full reps tonight at 495 jus didnt have no one to video

what was the point in posting that? we know its not poss mate, and now you've dropped from 15 reps to 10reps on the 495, and i still dont believe that, when i last competed i was 100kg class and i maxed 265kgs(585lb) on squat and on the build up to the comp i struggled to get 5 clean reps on 220kgs. now you're telling me that you can push that weight? no chance, i dont believe on word of it, you are not doing 225kgs(495lb) for 10reps of full squats. with what you're claiming you should be singling 280-300kgs and to get those sort of lifts you'd need to of been plifting for a considerable time.
if i see BS i will call it out

**ufc8581** · 02-23-2011, 09:51 PM

im not in to agruing ne more with dumba**es .. i really dont care if u believe me or not but ill get the video real soon n shut u f**kers up .. an no i didnt miss lead ne thing ..and i said 495 10-15 reps ..its jus according what part of my workout i do squats if i do at the begging i get 15 if i do towards the end i get 10 .. n 585 max on i can def get more straight max ..in highschool i did weight lifting and i max at comp 495lbs at 185 class .. and i can send a pic of my ring for that and that was 7 years ago

**BgMc31** · 02-23-2011, 09:57 PM

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser."
— Socrates

So even though we have 10x the weighlifting experience you have, we are dumbasses? Post the vid...

**ufc8581** · 02-23-2011, 11:13 PM

dude really how many times have i said i will .. and nice quote

**dec11** · 02-24-2011, 09:37 AM

ok ufc, we'll see you winning worlds strongest man some day soon then.
man, i must have been doing something badly wrong in the 13yrs i competed in plifting

**rapidoo15** · 02-24-2011, 12:17 PM

Ufc quick one for you taking 500mg a week of the test do you feel as if your body is retaning alot of water? I was looking into trying a little less then 500mg to see how I feel first.

**ufc8581** · 02-24-2011, 02:53 PM

im running ldex from ar-r and it cleared up the moon face and the bloat .. so 500mg is g2g if u got that on hand in my opinion

**ufc8581** · 02-24-2011, 07:29 PM

had an awesome chest and bi workout tonight .. pushed 225 for a set of 25 on flat bench ..and pushed the 110s on incline for 6 reps and 2 forced reps

**ufc8581** · 03-09-2011, 11:09 PM

new pics .. cycle is going great .. awesome strength gains .. really seeing the cuts now

**bezzy** · 04-23-2011, 12:29 PM

good results matey doing prop t3 and clen myself in two week.

**Enz0** · 04-26-2011, 12:25 AM

I'm no expert but your last pics don't look like 11% bf to me.

**ufc8581** · 05-03-2011, 01:54 PM

on pct now .. results was amazing .. down to about 10% bf.. strentgh has dropped a little but not much .. doing a weight meet in june .. im down to about 221 right now looking to cut on up to about 210 and ill be happy .. will post new pics soon