Tren Ace 6 week cycle

[austinite]

OK... so it looks like a new source is available and delivery is Monday. Which is perfect because Monday is when my left over gear runs out. So... for now... Cycle moves forward!!

DAY 14:

Sides: Night sweats.

My left delt is a little sore. So im going to give it a break and do the next 6 pins in the right delt.

Today I drove 10 hours to another city. felt pretty sleepy at first but Starbucks fixed that right away. Unlike all the other hotels Ive stayed in in the past, this one has a real gym. Smith machine and everything else I need. Can't believe there is no Golds Gym here. Can't get myself to pay for Planet Fitness and their Lunk Alarms.

Still don't feel like Superman.

Anyway, I will update on my pin tonight and my workout. Today is Chest/Tri's/Shoulders/Traps.

[< <Samson> >]

Good to hear, should all go through. . . .

[austinite]

Thanks Samson!

Day 14: continued...

GYM: Strange day at the gym. After my first set, I started breathing hard, as if I just ran a marathon. Couldnt catch my breath. It was like this the entire time. I just fought through it. Anyway... Good workout aside from the breathing issue. More veins are starting to pop up everywhere. Mostly upper chest area.

When I got to my hotel room and took my shirt off, this was probably the 1st time I said "Holy shit". Today is the day that I REALLY noticed a difference in my physique. My traps are just enormous and full, the gap between my collar bone and my chest has filled in, my shoulders are rock solid and beefy.

Still looking for more definition and more lean mass.

[blacksmoke]

It's good that you can continue on with your cycle.
Did I read that correctly, your only pinning your shoulders?

[austinite]

It's good that you can continue on with your cycle.
Did I read that correctly, your only pinning your shoulders?

Pinning in delts only.

[DanB]

why delts only? asking for scar tissue bro, traps, pecs and glutes are all painless also once you get used to them

[austinite]

Well, I do EOD, so really each delt will be getting hit every 5 days. and with the delt you have a good 4 inch span to move it around. chances of me hitting the same square inch area is close to zero. Plus with the delt you have almost zero chance of seeing blood on aspiration.

The sciatic nerve scares the shit out of me. I can do traps no problem, so maybe I will rotate between 2 delts and 2 traps. That should space them out for weeks before they get hit again.

Thanks for the advice, I'll take it.

[austinite]

Day 15:

Restless sleep. Woke up at 1am, 2am, 4am, and finally at 6 when I stayed up. Libido still good.

Felt pretty good today. No sides. Didn't even break a sweat which is unusual compared to the last 2 weeks. I'm starting to think my gear is underdosed. Luckily the new stuff comes in Monday. I hear good things about Genisis.

Don't have a scale at the hotel. I like that because I'm hoping to see some change when I get home on Sunday night.

A little sore in the shoulders but not too bad. Taking the day off from the gym, will hit back and bi's tomorrow.

[austinite]

Day 16:

Hard time sleeping last night, but once I slept, I didnt wake up until 7 hours later. Not too shabby.

So, wednesday I pinned myu right delt for the first time, and today my right shoulder is killing me when I move it upwards. Obviously I stopped moving it in that direction, lol. But I wonder if its from the pin or if I might have injured myself at the gym. I always focus on my form, but this gym at the hotel has crap equipment. Smith machine is all out of wack. I dont know.

My mood was strange today, I was stressed at work a bit, got a little angry. But I recall similar situations in the past when I wasnt cycling and my reactions were the same. So I'm not going to point the finger at Tren .

I am a little frustrated. I guess you could say I am emotional about my cycle. Not about anything else. One day after a workout I feel great. Look at my last post, Im all excited and seeing changes. Today I feel like shit. Somewhat depressed about the cycle. I almost wish I never read every tren thread in the world before starting, but that's common, im sure.

16 days in, is it possible that Tren just hasnt peaked for me yet? Is my gear so underdosed ? So many questions. It just drives me insane when I read about everyone feeling so great in and out of the gym. I want that Great OUT OF THE GYM feeling! Not there yet.

I'm not giving up though, maybe when the new product arrives on monday I will be pinning some properly dosed stuff and start getting those great feelings everyone else gets. We shall see.

Oh, more zits today. Luckily none on the face. Just back and shoulders.

No scale. Will weigh in on monday.

/rant.

[Scabtree]

Really interesting and informative post; tren is something that interests me down the road, so it's great to see your day to day results and responses to it.

[GORILLAslap]

Every complaint I've seen about it being too harsh, was from folks using insane dosages. Most folks at 400 or less per week, get little sides, some no sides at all. I think tren just exploded at some point and a few hit it with high doses, infested the internet with info, and now you get a million threads from non-users talking about how they will never do it. Anything can be done responsibly. You can have harsh sides from too much red meat, or soda, or water for that matter.

i hope your right lol i think about this allll the time lol i want to do tren for my next cycle, but i have heard SOOOOO much bs about tren it makes it sounds un attractive

but yea i think its just a bunch of dumb guys shooting crap loads of tren an freaking out and posting bs and lying sayin they were on 200mg and all that mess

[austinite]

Day 16: continues...

Pinned about 20 minutes ago. This is the first time I get an insane, constant sting at the injection site. I'll get over it.

[JohnnyVegas]

i hope your right lol i think about this allll the time lol i want to do tren for my next cycle, but i have heard SOOOOO much bs about tren it makes it sounds un attractive

but yea i think its just a bunch of dumb guys shooting crap loads of tren an freaking out and posting bs and lying sayin they were on 200mg and all that mess

It doesn't need to be a high dose to hit some people hard. Insomnia and night sweats can leave you really run down. Massive sweating during the day is inconvenient and a spike in BP is worrisome.

[DanB]

350 ish mg in a rip blend killed me (sweats, wanted to tear peoples heads off, shitty mood) and i know of a well respected member here who ran it in same region and destroyed him aswell

i shall conquer it shortly though. . . .

[austinite]

Day 17:

Rough night. I went to bed around 11pm, fell asleep around midnight. Woke up at 3am soaking wet. Gross. Because I expected this, luckily I requested an extra set of sheets from the hotel. Got up, showered, replaced sheets, went back to bed. Woke up at 4am. Then 4:30, then 5am. Stayed up at that point. I'm just glad that my night sweats haven't been every night.

Strange thing is, as miserable as it was all night, I don't feel tired right now. Might catch up to me later.

The sting in my left delt (from last nights pin) went away. Rear right shoulder still has slight pain. Pain goes away under hot water, but immediately comes back.Its a bit warm to the touch. But no swelling or redness. Strange.

I think I am a slow responder to tren , although you never know, one of these upcoming days it might hit me like a freight train. From what I hear, there is no question when you really know its working.

[austinite]

Day 17: continues...

Well, the sting went away but now I have a pain and the injection site has hardened up. Sucks. Hope its not infected. Kinda feels like my right delt did the other day but that went away, so Im guessing I got some irritation from the juice.

Came home early. LONG 9 hour drive. No sides while driving. Totally exhausted now. Gonna have to workout through the pain tomorrow. Hate going out of town, always messes up my routine. Probably need the rest anyway.

237 lbs

[< <Samson> >]

237 huh?

No weight gain at really. . . . . . Hmmmm

[austinite]

I see some visible changes. I think Im in a battle of gaining muscle and losing fat. Im really not that concerned with the scale, just the mirror. But its good info anyway.

[< <Samson> >]

You ever do a BF% check?

[austinite]

19

[austinite]

Forgot to mention, I breath hard. I mean, anything seems to excite me and my heart starts racing. Even like watching a video and you're about to see a crash, my heart starts to beat like crazy. Also, this morning I had a meeting with my staff, and seriously, I ran out of breath after 5 minutes of talking. Employees were joking saying "Did you just run a marathon or something?" - ugh. It was that way at the gym. Out of breath after 3 reps.

[< <Samson> >]

19% at 238. Not too bad.

Next cycle on, I'm going at it way lean. I'm at 21% now and ain't so cool.

I noticed I seem to have a issue with shortness of breath too. But, its only under heavy work.

[Mason380]

I find if you don't have enough meals in you before you go to the gym I'm more out of breath and sometimes not as strong.

[austinite]

Day 18:

Night sweats last night. Woke up to a zit on my cheek. Nothing major.

About an hour ago, I was driving and some guy decided to come charging onto the road from a parking lot, he slams his brakes the nose of his car almost hit the side of my car, I had to swerve away pretty aggressively. This is where something happened to me that normally would never happen.

I stopped, backed up my truck and blocked him from entering onto the road. I got out and walked towards the driver and the only thing on my mind was that I was going to punch that window so hard that my fist goes through the glass and his teeth.

Well, when I got close the guy put the car in reverse and bolted. I turned around and saw my truck sitting in the middle of the door with my door open. That's when it hit me. What the Fukck am I doing?? This is not me. When did this chain of events start? I would never ever initiate anything like this. Whats even more mind boggling, is that I really and truly didn't feel anger. I was fairly calm. I don't even remember my thoughts when I made the decision to get out of the car. I just did what I did very casually.

I'm very disappointed in myself. Luckily no harm was done.

My initial plan was to run Tren at 50mg EOD, after a single dose I decided 75mg EOD should be good. Needless to say, my 3rd pin was 100mg EOD and has been since. Well, as of now, Im going back to 75mg EOD. If I have another episode like this, I will kill the cycle.

For now, Im going to pin my 10th, and go to the GYM in an hour after dinner. I'll report gym progress.

[Wannabeinshape]

Thanks for the transparency & honesty! Your doing us a service.

[austinite]

Just pinned my 10th. I switched to 23 gauge from my usual 22. BIG mistake. 1st off, my new gear arrived and today was the first time pull. The oil is thicker than my previous vial. Makes me wonder what the hell I was injecting for the past 2 and a half weeks. I am 100% sure this stuff Im taking now is legit. The last batch, I believe was quite underdosed.

Anyway, it took FOREVER to inject. Seriously like 3 minutes or more. It was so slow, my hand was getting tired and couldnt keep it steady. Im sure I tore up my muscle pretty good. A little sore. Im sure tomorrow will be quite painful.

OK... Off to the Gym. Chest, Tris, traps, shoulders, delts.

[austinite]

Day 18: Continues...

GYM: Well there you have it. Added 5 lbs to my normal dumbbell press. Weak. Added 10 lbs. Not bad. Finally added 15 lbs for 2 more reps. Strength has gone up dramatically compared to my last chest workout. I managed 10 extra lbs on the dumbbell flys, tried 15 lbs, luckily that section of the gym was empty because I looked like an idiot trying to yank that thing up, lol.

When I got home, I had tons of veins in my shoulders. Still not 3 dimensional and popping out, but very visible. My forearms did get a vein each that popped out.

Biggest thing I noticed instant change with physically after workout are my traps. Big massive lumps. Love it. Cant wait for recovery and growth.

No sides at the gym aside from sweating like a pig. WAY more than usual.

241 LBS (happy samson 420??) haha, kidding. There's a couple more lbs for ya.

[< <Samson> >]

The Genesis is supposed to be the shit. It is not available for cheap anywhere.

That kinda has me wondering if cheap gear is cheap gear. And "bomb shit" is always expensive.

Hmmmm. . . . .

[austinite]

Day 19:

No night sweats last night. REALLY hard time getting out of bed. Even after a shower I felt sleepy and drained.

After breakfast, I felt better and the day wasnt so bad.

BLOOD WORK:

TESTOSTERONE , TOTAL lc/ms/ms: 384 (normal range= 250-1100)
TESTOSTERONE, FREE: 184.2 (normal range= 35-155)
ESTRADIOL: < 15

[austinite]

Day 20:

Last night I got home around 7pm. Got on the computer and started feeling REALLY tired. So tired I couldnt stay up. I went to bed at 8pm and woke up at 8am. I dont remember ever sleeping for 12 hours straight. Amazing. Still felt tired when I got up but its an hour later and I feel good now.

No night sweats, slept like a baby.

Tonight is my 20th pin, and tomorrow is my 3 week mark. STILL dont feel amazing outside of the gym. Maybe I should just stay at the gym. ugh. Started the new gear on my last pin so Im hoping it will amplify whatever underdosed crap I was taking before and I start seeing real results soon.

Hope I can find 22 gauge pins tonight because that last 23 awg was the worst idea ever. So slow, so unstable.

Back and Bi's with some tri's tonight. Will report...

[binsser]

im doing same cycle 450mg tren -a /test-p 300mg night sweats for me are only about 10 percent i just keep window open few spot here and there on week 5 now going to 10 as i can clearly see good gains now so have to go to 10 tren , prop 12 good luck with cycle m8 sounds like its going well!

[austinite]

im doing same cycle 450mg tren -a /test-p 300mg night sweats for me are only about 10 percent i just keep window open few spot here and there on week 5 now going to 10 as i can clearly see good gains now so have to go to 10 tren , prop 12 good luck with cycle m8 sounds like its going well!

You're on week 5? how do you feel outside of the gym? Do you feel powerful all the time?

Thanks for the feedback.

[austinite]

Day 20: continued...

Just pinned my 11th. ****ing syringe was defective. Leaked a bit where the needle meets the tube. Dropped about 5 drops. Sucks, but most went in.

Recently been massaging the injection site for a good 2 minutes. Also been running the syringe under hot water. Makes it painless.

Off to the Gym. Back, Bis, Tris. Will report...

[austinite]

Day 20: continued...

Gym was good. Back workout same as always. 45 minutes. My bicep and forearm pumps are insane. Makes it pretty difficult to finish all reps. Had to do a few extra sets here and there with less reps. Noticed most of my strength gains from the tricep workout. I pulled more weight than I ever could. Not just a 10 or 15 lbs increase, I went up 35 lbs. Sweat like a pig.

Blood work tomorrow so no more eating or drinking anything until 8am. Guess I better go to bed then.

[< <Samson> >]

Maaaan, it makes me wanna bridge straight into a Tren cycle. . . . JK

Sounds good though, damn good strength increase.


It's the damn good over priced gear, lol

[binsser]

To be honest tren is one of the easyest cycles for my body because of what i done before i get more sides off test-e than i do off of tren and yes i have a sht load of hair lolol i dont feel like a monster but i do feel tight and very solid but i wouldnt do 6 weeks i really only started getting proper pumped after week 3 now the pumps are unreal whatever i work on just burns like hell but if u move into a differant angle for 90 secs it goes away and my fore arms are tight so after 40 mins its hard to hold the weight lolol strength is through the roof and attitude is the same but im very very laid back anyway until i hit the gym lol woke up once last night sweating but had window open at the right angle so the wind was on me all night so got away with that one i have 2 showers a day and sopts are at a minimum ie 2-3 sopts on my back max but def stacking now so happy ill keep in touch m8 i am taking a ai arimidex half pill every 3rd to eod!

[sneakyhats]

In..

Can't wait to see pics

[thehulk2203]

Subscribed nice thread can't wait to try tren it well be in my next cycle for sure. Again thanks for the time and effort for the thread

[austinite]

Thanks for the support everyone.

Day 21: *** 3 week mark ***

Last night I slept good. I seem to sleep better when I am sore as hell from a workout. Still sore from last nights back/bis/tris. Light night sweats.

Today was pretty good. Didn't get my usual fatigue around 2pm. I kept truckin' all day. Had a bit of anger this morning. But I was by myself in the car so I didnt take it out on anyone. Mostly upset with the lack of communication from Medical center where I went to get blood work done.

Anyway, today I drew for just about everything:
- B12 / Anemia
- Food Alergies
- General Allergies
- Lipids
- Potassium
- Caffeine
- Dehydration
- Cholesterol/Triglycerides
- and a few more things that may cause fatigue.

$617 dollars later...

I pinned Test E in my quad today and man... looked like a murder scene. Never seen so much blood come out of me. No pain at all really. Held a sterile pad against it for a minute and BAM, all gone.

GYM: Today was leg day. I freaking hate leg day with passion. It's right up there with Cardio for me. Anyway, I added a plate on each side so that was good for the leg press. But calves.... Calves is where I felt some super strength. I loaded the standing calf machine with all the weights it could carry. I still felt I had some more in me after 3 reps of that. I went and picked up a 30 lbs dumbbell and set it on top of the plates. NO PROBLEM! Some guy who is bigger than me wouldn't stop looking at me while doing that last rep. You can tell he wanted to say something or talk, but it was my last rep and I wanted out. So I just left.

Tren = I know you're bigger than me but I'm stronger.

Let's not get cocky now...

SAMSON!! Start PCT and roll with me bro.

[austinite]

Day 22: * pin # 12 * (100mg)

Slept ok last night. No night sweat. The night sweats have a mind of their own. on and off all the time.

Still waiting for that great feeling outside the gym. Not here yet.

I was in a great mood all day today. Even worked all day with a co-worker that normally gets on my nerves pretty quick. Never bothered me all day. As I write this I think of all my previous posts in this thread. It's all over the place with the moods, emotions, etc... So if anyone is wondering "What EXACTLY can I get out of this guy's experience??" Well, you will get exactly this... a different day, everyday. Very unpredictable.

I'm sure age will make a difference in how you react to this stuff. Remember, I'm 36. So for me, I'm really starting to learn more about myself while on this cycle. Mainly my self control capabilities. If you look a few posts back, I got out of my car to beat the shit out of a guy in traffic. Frankly, I've been keeping a real close eye on myself since that happened. And I can tell you that several times since then people have pissed me off while driving. No problems since then. I take a deep breath and move on. I just remind myself of the bullet I dodged the other day.

Do I feel great on Tren ? Answer: Only in the gym. Outside the gym I feel absolutely nothing. (as far as feeling great, that is)

No gym today. Rest day. REALLY excited about tomorrow night. Chest baby.

239 LBS - Back to yoyo weight. But guess what... waist is smaller. I mentioned previously that I took my belt down to the last notch. I think I might have to buy a new belt soon. Maybe some pants. This is a problem I do not mind dealing with