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    Shuff is offline Junior Member
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    Week 12
    Weekly Tuesday after back/biceps workout progress pic. Less pump than usual since the photos were taken 50min after workout.
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    Shuff is offline Junior Member
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    Originally I was going with this PCT since a very knowledgeable guy recommended it to me. A lot of people including myself said that this may be to much just for a Test E cycle, so I have decided to reduce it.

    PCT :
    Clomid 100/100/100/50
    Nolva 40/40/20/20

    I would like to hear your opinions on this PCT cycle.

    Week 1: 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
    Week 2: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
    Week 3: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
    Week 4: 20mg Nolva ED

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    I might come across as a jerk for saying this, but is your gear bad or are you underestimating your calories drastically? How do you not have access to a scale? if you can afford gear you can afford a scale, or find a way to use one. I know it's too late but you shouldn't have ran this cycle without exhausting some beginner gains. I think the bigger issue is your fear of getting fat, and it is keeping you from gaining muscle. Something is not right here, sorry for saying some harsh words about the effort you have put in, but someone has got to be honest with you.

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    Yeah I agree with seoinage. These results would look average even for a natural after 3 months, let alone someone juicing. At this point either you were using fake gear (did your strength increase at an abnormal rate?) or you need to look into your nutrition/training/recovery to see where the problem was. If the gear was legit, I would say only re-juice when you can make some decent visable gains as a natural to prove juicing will be worth it. As in this case it wasn't. Sorry if this wasn't what you wanted to hear.

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    I appreciate you guys being honest. I'm here to learn not being lied to. My strength never suddenly increased abnormally, but has steadily increased every week. When I have hit plateaus it has taken 1 week to overcome it. I'm certain of ball shrinkage so I think the gear is legit, but perhaps is not as potent as it claims.

    Will train natural for some time and see what happens. I have always gotten best responses with heavy weights, compound exercises and long breaks. Will take a look for some kind of 5x5 after PCT.

    Ps: what do you guys think of the new PCT?

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