First Cycle 500 Test E Clean Bulk

[Shuff]

Overall diet Week 5:
Diet has been good this week, with two semi cheat meals (taco with a lot of vegetables and stuff).

My first test vial should have been almost empty now. I think my injections perhaps have only been around 400-450mgper week. Going to increase the volume of oil I put in syringe for the next weeks to catch up.

I have been seeing gains, but not the crazy restitution people keep talking about. Not sure if steroids have truly kicked in yet. It has been 5 weeks since first injection so it should kick in next week approximately?

[Shuff]

Week 6
Weekly Tuesday after back/biceps workout.

[itsjayman02]

IMO I would have waited a couple of years your no where near reaching a plateau with gaining weight naturally ......steroids are not the be all drug they are an aid and your gains are dependant on food so much my friend !! before cycling again research more on the nutritional front remember take small steps = less sides and you will keep more gains with more experience !!

Train hard eat hard sleep hard !!

[Shuff]

IMO I would have waited a couple of years your no where near reaching a plateau with gaining weight naturally ......steroids are not the be all drug they are an aid and your gains are dependant on food so much my friend !! before cycling again research more on the nutritional front remember take small steps = less sides and you will keep more gains with more experience !!

Train hard eat hard sleep hard !!

Yes, you are perfectly right. However, my goal is not to get as big as genetically possible, but to look fit with a decent amount of muscles, and ripped. I understand steroids is no magic, but it speeds up the process, and while on gear you get extra motivation to keep sleep, diet and training in check.

And as I have noticed the last few weeks, it seems that it has been my calorie intake that has hold me back the last few years. I basically eat like 2-2.5 times as much now as I did. Lol

Wish you all the best, and please continue giving advise. I'll appreciate that.

[itsjayman02]

Hi shuff

I see your goal and would like to help you out as I've been where you are 20 years ago and back here again ( on a 8 week diet )aiming for that aesthetic look!!

Just a few pointers from experience the first being train your weak points twice a week to bring them up ( I see your delts would benefit from this be sure to hit all 3 heads )

2nd increase your protein intake your muscle needs fuel and trust me at your age the engine will thrive on it. Keep carbs and fruit to around your training times and then protein after 6.00pm with a hand full of almonds

( squats at heavy weight and low reps with 2 min rests followed by burnout with a light weight )

Keep cardio to 1 session per day as this is more productive than splitting into 2 x 30min stints

Hope some of this helps it's worked for me I'm no body builder but I've listened to vets but most of all listen to your body!!

[itsjayman02]

The protein is to be taken around training times the after 6.00pm was meant to be no carbs !!

[Shuff]

Thanks for great advice.

Currently I'm doing this workout during my entire cycle. http://www.muscleandstrength.com/wor...g-program.html Not sure if it hits the delts enough.

I'm only doing cardio once per week for about 20-40min depending on the intensity. Do you mean I should do a little cardio everyday? I do 4min warmup on the treadmill and 2 min at the row machine before every workout.

As for an eating plan, I eat a lot of oatmeal and slow/medium carbs with some protein in the morning. Lunch is a gainer with semi skimmed milk and extra vergin olive oil, also a few rice cakes. After workout I eat a banana, 1-2 rice cakes and a protein shake.

Dinner is mostly protein, veggies, some carbs. Night snack is, half an avocado, mixed seeds and nuts with olive oil, and some milk.

I don't have a lot of meals, but the one I have are huge. Except the night snack which is just normally big.

[itsjayman02]

Cardio should be at least 2 or 3 sessions per week 30 min but not on leg day though!!

If possible fasted cardio even better

Add abs to the programme mon & weds

Remember your body adjusts very quickly so always change routine / weight every 4 to 6 weeks.

STOP !! Eating the big meals small but often is a must 5 / 6 at least and no carbs after 6.00pm.

If you don't have the time add a whey protein isolate shake.

Mass or weight gainers are usually high in fat stick to protein shakes

Finally have a cheat day with your favourite meal you earned it just don't stuff your face haha!!

Rest is the key you repair and grow so try get 8 hours a nite unlike me at 5 grrrr

Keep me posted on progress!!

[Shuff]

The sleeping is normally not a problem, as I go to bed around 1am and get up at 10:45am. Not sure how smart this is since from last meal to breakfast is around 12 hours.

I normally don't do abs specific, since I already got quite big abs compared to the rest. Normally I hit them indirectly through compound exercises.

Overall diet Week 6:
This week I have been 2 days in Bristol for a balloon festival with my gf and a few friends. Quite proud that I didn't even taste any alcohol. Even took some meals and vitamins with me. Worst thing I ate was some meat fat in a few of the Chinese dishes we ate one night. Other night we ate at a sushi restaurant which was only healthy stuff.
Otherwise the week has been clean and good.

[Shuff]

Week 7
Weekly Tuesday after back/biceps workout progress pic.

[itsjayman02]

Just checking in to see you are hitting your weak body parts......remember symmetry is in fashion big time !!

[Shuff]

itsjayman02, do you have any suggestions on how I can implement good exercises for my weak body parts using this workout?

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/wor...g-program.html

[JWP806]

STOP !! Eating the big meals small but often is a must 5 / 6 at least and no carbs after 6.00pm.

This is not a must. As long as you get your macros in, you are good.

[Mr_Prop_var_Testen]

This is not a must. As long as you get your macros in, you are good.

Exactly!!!

[Mgt95]

I'm planing on a similar first cycle, keep us posted on the sides if you still have or get any more.. Im looking forward to the up coming weeks, good luck on the rest of the cycle. cheers

[Shuff]

Thanks Mgt95. Only sides I have had is a little ball shrinkage, and some oily skin on the back the first 2 weeks. At the moment I have more sides from the large food and milk intake than from the steroids lol. Got a few normal pimples because of all the sugar in the milk I drink. My body has never really handled sugar well.

I have never really felt the steroids kick in, but I have become stronger and bigger absolutely. No doubt the steroids I got is legit.

Overall diet Week 7:
Clean and good. Today I'm having my cheat meal (Japanese takeaway with beef, veggies and rice noodles) with my gf. Had a few sips of a soda on Monday.

Ps: how much gains do u guys I will lose approximately? With my high intake of 0.5 adex EOD I doubt I have a lot of water retention.

[Mr_Prop_var_Testen]

Thanks Mgt95. Only sides I have had is a little ball shrinkage, and some oily skin on the back the first 2 weeks. At the moment I have more sides from the large food and milk intake than from the steroids lol. Got a few normal pimples because of all the sugar in the milk I drink. My body has never really handled sugar well.

I have never really felt the steroids kick in, but I have become stronger and bigger absolutely. No doubt the steroids I got is legit.

Overall diet Week 7:
Clean and good. Today I'm having my cheat meal (Japanese takeaway with beef, veggies and rice noodles) with my gf.

Ps: how much gains do u guys I will lose approximately? With my high intake of 0.5 adex EOD I doubt I have a lot of water retention.

The good news is u can keep all ur gains and probably make a lot more if u perfect ur diet and get in an enough amough amount of clean pro carb fat to support that
In ur case it's all about the food!!!!!
Sure post cycle u can loose a pound or two due to gear storing more glycogen in ur muscles but u can recover ur lost mass and more through ((((clean food))))

[Mr_Prop_var_Testen]

^^^ this does not apply to everyone but in ur case ur miles away from ur max genetic potential so keeping ur gains will be easy!

[Shuff]

Approximately when should I lower volume of workouts and focus on a few heavy compounds exercises? I read that after a cycle it was a important to produce natural test by doing a few heavy compound exercises. I was thinking of doing "stronglift 5x5" workout when my strength start to decline in PCT/after PCT. Is this any good?

[Shuff]

Mr Pror var Testen, do you think I should step up my calorie intake even more? I feel like the only things I'm doing when not working out or sleeping is to either eat or sit on my ass relaxing. I have barley gained any fat on this cycle, maybe a little bit on belly but it is hardly noticeable.

[ineedauser]

Gains look great man.

[Mr_Prop_var_Testen]

Mr Pror var Testen, do you think I should step up my calorie intake even more? I feel like the only things I'm doing when not working out or sleeping is to either eat or sit on my ass relaxing. I have barley gained any fat on this cycle, maybe a little bit on belly but it is hardly noticeable.

Don't up ur cals post cycle u should either do the opposite or keep the same the most important thing is the quality of food and the way u look in the mirror
Don't try to keep all ur weight imediatelly post cycle as a drop of couple of pounds is ok as it should be water so trying to focus in the scale will only result in unwanted fat gain.
A trick is that u should act as if ur still on cycle and I promise u u won't feel that much of a difference cause u have put on real muscle so if u fight the mental down ur gonna be physically the same before u even notice it
About the volume u can keep everything the same but do one less set per exercise and focus mor on intensity!!!
Don't change to a power workout if u wanna keep ur size u keep it the way u built it.

[Shuff]

Thanks for great advice, really appreciated.

[Mr_Prop_var_Testen]

Thanks for great advice, really appreciated.

Ur welcome bro
I'm following!

[Shuff]

I think I have enough Test E for 12 weeks instead of the planed 10 weeks. Should I add 2 more weeks for some extra gains? I have enough adex to support this.

Will the 2 extra weeks have a big difference on the recovery? This was the main reason why I choose 10 weeks and not 12 weeks, but I seem to handle Test pretty well.

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

I dont think you are eating enough.

starting weight / current weight?

[Shuff]

My starting weight was about 85-86kg, I haven't weighted myself in months since I don't have the tool.

But I'm sure I'm at least somewhere around 88-93kg by now. Maybe more experienced people can tell on pics.

But I think you are right, I could try to eat more, as long as I don't see fat stacking (which I haven't till now).

[Shuff]

Week 8
Weekly Tuesday after back/biceps workout progress pic.

[Shuff]

Overall diet Week 8:
I was at a bbq party on Friday, but only ate lots of veggies, salad, chicken fillets and lean steak. Had a glass of red wine while all other got drunk. I went home to sleep when the others went to the clubs. Had also a small piece of cake on Thursday since a flatmate of mine made it, I couldn't say no to taste it. Other than that the diet has been good. Also, increased the calorie intake somewhat.

[Omega Blaze]

1st Cycle Advice
1st Cycle Advice
Hello All,

Looking to add some lean quality muscle mass and shed hopefully shed fat at the same time. November 1st I'm beginning my first cycle . This first cycle consists of 500 mg. of test e per week for 12 weeks and 25 mg. dianabol every day for the first six weeks. PCT is 40 mg of Nolvadex every day. Do you find this cycle to be conducive to my overall goals specifically fat burning?

Thanks in advance.



Stats:

27 years old
6' tall
280 lbs.
26% bodyfat

Training

Monday: Chest & Tri's
Tuesday: Legs, calves & abs
Wednesday: Cardio & yoga
Thursday: Shoulders & Traps
Friday: Back & Bi's

(1 hour of cardio on an empty stomach 6 days per week)


Current Diet:

Wake-up

Drink 3 cups of Yerba Mate Tea


1.12 egg whites
Oatmeal
Berries

2.Protein shake w/berries

3.BS chicken breast
Sweet potato/Brown Rice/Black Beans/Purple Sweet Potato
Broccoli/Kale/Kim Chi/Asparagus

Workout

4.Protein shake (Post Workout Meal)

5.Bison steak
Purple sweet potato
Asparagus

6.Salmon
Kim Chi

7. Protein shake or Brazil nuts

[Shuff]

Hey there Quin.

If you want to cut fat then I believe dbol is not a good idea, because of the water retention.
Secondly you should cut natural before doing juice. 26% bf is in most cases too high to consider juice.
Third you should use the thread u started and not hijack a random cycle log. lol

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...e#.UDs-FaNohBA

Best of luck to you and your cut.

[Shuff]

Overall diet Week 9:
Stepped up calorie intake an inch. Diet has been good this week. Starting to look stronger without pump and people have started to comment that I have gotten bigger.

From now on I'm only posting progress pics every second week.

My goal is to be as cool as this guy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0

[Shuff]

Week 10
Weekly Tuesday after back/biceps workout progress pic. Less pump than usual since because of gym maintenance I had my breast/triceps workout on Sunday and my back/bicep workout today 3 days later instead of 1. Started to get a little moon face. People think I'm starting to get fat lol.

[JWP806]

Interesting that you call it breast and triceps...

[Shuff]

Ye, I was going to see if anyone noticed.

[Shuff]

Overall diet Week 11:
I have been moving, and my gf has moved to London. Before that I was sick a few days, so the last 10 days have been very hectic and diet has not been as good as it should have.

[sailfishray]

Life can get hectic but refocus on your goal cause you're almost there! Don't forget to post more pics of your progress, I'm starting my second week and it's inspirational.

[Shuff]

Life can get hectic but refocus on your goal cause you're almost there! Don't forget to post more pics of your progress, I'm starting my second week and it's inspirational.

It's not as bad as it sounds. I have despite everything still gotten every gym workout. Never missed one gym workout the entire cycle, only a few cardio workouts. Will post a new pic tomorrow.
Good luck to you

[< <Samson> >]

What's your weight change? You seem to be filling in a bit.

[Shuff]

I was around 86-87 kg when I started this cycle. I have not access to a weight scale so I don't know my current weight. Will try to get one soon and do the weight during my last days of PCT.
I have defiantly put on some size, but not as much as the first picture suggest. It was not taken with pump nor after training so I'm smaller than I would otherwise have been.
I have one injection left then the 2 weeks of adex and then the PCT starts. I never felt the test kick in like a bomb, but maybe more gradually. My strength gains have been steady but nothing out of this world, which I think is good since I may keep most of my strength.