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    18 year old female var (Reverse diet/Off Season)

    GOALS:Enhance my metabolic capacity and make some quality gains without the excess fat usually put on.
    STATS: 59KG (130 pounds), 153CM (5"??), I'd say about 20-25% bodyfat
    MEASUREMENTS:
    • Waist = 64.5 cm (25.394")
    • Hips = 95 cm (37.402")

    CYCLE: Started 29/05/2014, will be cycling for 50 days (~7 weeks)
    DOSE: 10MG/day
    TRAINING: 5 x resistance training, 1 x HIIT session (20 minutes), 1 x SS cardio session (30 minutes)
    DIET: Reverse dieting. Current macros: 225 C / 40 F / 135 P [1800 cals] I'm looking to add increments of about 5 % in both carbs and fat every week (about 64 cals a week)

    Since I've been at a deficit for about 5 months (on 1700 cals) I'm not too certain if this is too rapid of an increase in calories.

    Will hit maintenance (~2000 cals) by week 3, then I'm assuming I should lower my increments from 5% a week to about 2%......

    But then again...would vars metabolic enhancing properties assist with not stacking on the expected fat gain during a reverse diet? (Feel free to voice your opinion on this, I'm always willing to learn)

    Oh and please don't bother commenting on my age, we all make mistakes when we're young...... Even if it's on purpose. How would you learn otherwise....right?

    Going to take advantage of the fact that I'm "young and stupid" and use it as an excuse in the future.

    Thanks for reading, hope you enjoy following me through out my first cycle
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    Friday (30/05/14) - Legs

    Squats

    60 KG (132 Pounds) x 10 x 10 [ATG]

    S/L Leg Press (Trying to strengthen my left leg)

    40 KG (88 Pounds) x 10 (each leg) x 3

    Laying Hamstring Curl

    55 KG (121 Pounds) x 8 x 3

    Calve Raises (Slow on the negative)

    40 KG (88 Pounds) x 12 x 3


    1800 cals
    40 F
    225 C
    135 P

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    Friday (30/05/14) - Legs

    Squats

    60 KG (132 Pounds) x 10 x 10 [ATG]

    S/L Leg Press (Trying to strengthen my left leg)

    40 KG (88 Pounds) x 10 (each leg) x 3

    Laying Hamstring Curl

    55 KG (121 Pounds) x 8 x 3

    Calve Raises (Slow on the negative)

    40 KG (88 Pounds) x 12 x 3


    1800 cals
    40 F
    225 C
    135 P
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    Everything looks proper IMO. Well, aside from being way young.

    But, I have no clue how or if you will be negatively effected by this. So far, I have only seen young guys do it.


    As far as I can tell personally, it won't do any more damage compared to you doing it when you're older. Youngest female that I know of who ran var was like 21-22.

    It's not like shutting a guy's test down.




    So, GL

    Keep your diet lean and dry as possible so you don't gain any fat. Maybe lose some instead

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    Sunday (01/06/2014) - Deads

    Deadlifts (conventional)

    65 KG (143 Pounds) x 8 x 10 sets

    Cleans

    40 KG x 3 x 5 sets


    Fourth day on var, I feel like I've already gained some strength.

    Randomly did 30 KG (66 pounds) x 5 reps of standing military press. This was my 1RM only 5 days ago.

    So I decided to do some pushups, did 3 sets of 12. I could only do 5 push ups about a week ago.




    Also did 10 minutes of cardio today (100 cals worth) because I overate by 100 last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Everything looks proper IMO. Well, aside from being way young.

    But, I have no clue how or if you will be negatively effected by this. So far, I have only seen young guys do it.


    As far as I can tell personally, it won't do any more damage compared to you doing it when you're older. Youngest female that I know of who ran var was like 21-22.

    It's not like shutting a guy's test down.


    So, GL

    Keep your diet lean and dry as possible so you don't gain any fat. Maybe lose some instead
    Well, I guess I'll be the youngest female to take var.

    Thanks!

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    Tuesday (03/06/2014) - Legs

    Pause Squats (3 second pause)

    60 KG x 8 x 5 sets

    Lunges

    40 KG x 20 x 3 sets

    Leg Press

    135 KG x 10 x 3 sets

    (Last set was a drop-set till failure, I felt a MASSSSIIIIVE pump)

    Deff feeling the pump I also feel like muscle endurance has increased.

    Going so well so far!

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    I've been feeling very hungry lately, not sure if mentally or physically.

    Been eating at about 2000~ for the past 4 days (Meant to be hitting 1800)

    Doing 30 minutes of cardio today to make up for them extra calories.

    Also increasing my macros to 231C/140P/42F (1862 cals) as of today.

    I am increasing both carbs and fat at 5% increments on a weekly basis.
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    Really that much carbs? That seems like bit

    Half of your cals are from carbs


    Is your weight going up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Really that much carbs? That seems like bit

    Half of your cals are from carbs


    Is your weight going up?
    Well my protein is already 30 higher then it needs to be... I might sub some carb for some fat

    Uh....I don't have a scale, only going by how I look/measurements. Last time I weighed myself I was 58.5kg (morning, no clothes on, about a month ago), I actually hopped onto the scale at the gym (with shoes and my clothes on) and it said 60kg...But my stomach was full of food and water.

    I feel like I've put on a bit of size but I can't tell if it's just because of water retention/bloating.
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    5/06/2014 - HIIT on Stair Master

    I've never tried HIIT on a Stair Master before, I couldn't tell if my legs were in pain from climbing so many stairs, or if it was the pump! My legs felt like they were about to explode.....

    Did 1 minute off (level 3-5) 30 seconds on (level 17) for about 18 minutes, then did a slow climb (level 5) for another 10 minutes.

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    I have to watch myself very close when it comes to carbs. Specially while on juice



    Your macros are something like 50% cals are from carbs, 30% from pro & fat is about 20%

    Not saying this doesn't work for you.


    You check your measurements?


    Not trying to be too much of an ass. Just noticed those numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    I have to watch myself very close when it comes to carbs. Specially while on juice



    Your macros are something like 50% cals are from carbs, 30% from pro & fat is about 20%

    Not saying this doesn't work for you.


    You check your measurements?


    Not trying to be too much of an ass. Just noticed those numbers
    TBH I struggle hitting my carb, usually go over in my protein anyway. So I've put it down to 40/40/20 as of now.

    I'll check my measurements tomorrow morning and update on here

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    Interesting thread. Good call on upping the protein and lowering carbs, IMO. Your workouts look pretty intense. Not many females are doing heavy squats, deadlifts and cleans. Are you a powerlifter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTaseMeBro View Post
    Interesting thread. Good call on upping the protein and lowering carbs, IMO. Your workouts look pretty intense. Not many females are doing heavy squats, deadlifts and cleans. Are you a powerlifter?
    I LOVE protein so i'm happy hahah!!

    My workouts are deadly, don't go to mess around.

    I'd say I do more bodybuilding (Because I work every muscle group) , but also chuck in the occasional 5x5 or 5x3

    Guess it's a bit of a mix between the two

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    MACRO ADJUSTMENTS:

    200C/158P/48F (1862 cal)


    * aslo, ate at 2k last night as well, making it the 5th day in a row that I haven't been hitting my macros.

    Incorporating about 10 minutes of cardio in my workouts just to make up for the ~140 cals extra I've been eating the past 5 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glutepump
    MACRO ADJUSTMENTS: 200C/158P/48F (1862 cal)
    That's pretty solid


    Lol - I still eat more while on a extreme cut right now. I feel like I am starving to death.

    GL in your cycle!

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    18yrs old?

    Being that I am also 18 I would like to know how this experience is for you? I am certainly going to follow this cycle log.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    That's pretty solid


    Lol - I still eat more while on a extreme cut right now. I feel like I am starving to death.

    GL in your cycle!

    Yeah, exactly why i'm reverse dieting

    THANK YOU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandeur View Post
    18yrs old?

    Being that I am also 18 I would like to know how this experience is for you? I am certainly going to follow this cycle log.
    Yep 18!

    Well I update regularly so watch this space

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    Quote Originally Posted by glutepump View Post
    Yep 18!

    Well I update regularly so watch this space
    Did you consider side effects and possible dangers before your AAS use? I imagine that things would be different for a female user than a male user like I would be but I am still very curious about this?

    How has it worked out for you so far?

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    I been wondering a bit about this & I still can't see an additional negative from a female being young and using gear compared to using gear when older.

    Your test does not need to rebound like a guy

    But, the only thing I can possibly think of is some sort of a hormonal imbalance. Yet, how and when - I can't even predict

    Just watch yourself very closely. I know you don't want funky side effects you'd have to live with for the rest of your life.

    The only other thing that is possible from female aas use is reproductive issues. That's def something a guy doesn't worry about in the same way


    As far as "just var" I say(which means close to nothing, lol) you should be okay. But, anything stronger can really kick up a side effect you really wouldn't want.


    If you can just stick to doing this once or maybe with a long break, would be best. But, to me personally and for many others - this "lifestyle" can become quickly addictive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandeur View Post
    Did you consider side effects and possible dangers before your AAS use? I imagine that things would be different for a female user than a male user like I would be but I am still very curious about this?

    How has it worked out for you so far?
    I've researched for the past 3 months, well I'm only about 10 days in, no major effects/changes so far.

    My friend who is also currently taking it is experiencing bad acne... But then again she is using a UGL brand, pure var is VERY difficult to find, and if you do.....it's very expensive/pointless for a guy to purchase as you have to use 3-5x more than a female to see any changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    I been wondering a bit about this & I still can't see an additional negative from a female being young and using gear compared to using gear when older.

    Your test does not need to rebound like a guy

    But, the only thing I can possibly think of is some sort of a hormonal imbalance. Yet, how and when - I can't even predict

    Just watch yourself very closely. I know you don't want funky side effects you'd have to live with for the rest of your life.

    The only other thing that is possible from female aas use is reproductive issues. That's def something a guy doesn't worry about in the same way


    As far as "just var" I say(which means close to nothing, lol) you should be okay. But, anything stronger can really kick up a side effect you really wouldn't want.


    If you can just stick to doing this once or maybe with a long break, would be best. But, to me personally and for many others - this "lifestyle" can become quickly addictive.
    Couldn't agree more. Very addictive, once you've experienced what it feels like to train while on AAS......that's it.

    To be honest, I couldn't care less about my age. In about 15 years technology is going to be so advanced that no one is going to need to lift/count macros to look aesthetic.

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    07/06/2014 - HIGH VOLUME LEGS

    5 x 10 60KG Squats
    5 x 6-8 70KG Box Squats
    3 x 20 100KG Leg Press
    3 x 10 Lying Hamstring Curl
    5 x 10 50 KG Sumo Deadlift
    3 x 20 Calve Raise

    Finished off with 10 minutes max incline @ 5km/hr on treadmill.

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    Well goodluck, I will be checking in every now and again to see how things progress

    Are you going to be doing before and after stats/pictures etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandeur View Post
    Well goodluck, I will be checking in every now and again to see how things progress

    Are you going to be doing before and after stats/pictures etc?
    Recording stats/lifts/measurements...Not sure on pictures just yet.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by glutepump View Post
    Recording stats/lifts/measurements...Not sure on pictures just yet.....

    Alright goodluck pal!
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    Get some bloods just to be careful, I know for sure that test will shut a woman's lh fsh and thus ovulation and mess around with your estradiol, and you might want bubs later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yettibecsuse View Post
    Get some bloods just to be careful, I know for sure that test will shut a woman's lh fsh and thus ovulation and mess around with your estradiol, and you might want bubs later on.
    I do not want kids.

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    08/06/2014 - DELTS!

    Oh my God! I'm making some streeeenngtthh gains, not gonna write out my entire workout but....

    Standing Military Press: 5 x 5 (30KG)

    10 days ago I could only push up 25KG for 5 x 5

    Feels good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by glutepump
    I do not want kids.
    Don't b a typical 18 year old

    I know I said the same shit when I was 18. Now damn near double the age I'm starting to change my tune - a little

    Priorities change - and it really sucks if we fvck something up that can't be reversed later on in life.



    Personally I think it's cool as fvck that you're trying to be beyond better than the rest. But, just like anyone else way younger than myself or shit even if I could say it to my younger self. Take it easy - to me it sounds like you're already doing hella a good.


    Don't take this as preaching nonsense BS. Just take it at least a little easy. There's no way I can tell anyone to just not get juiced. Look what I do myself

    Male, female it don't matter - we don't need to fvck out selves up too bad.

    You're strength seems solid as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Don't b a typical 18 year old

    I know I said the same shit when I was 18. Now damn near double the age I'm starting to change my tune - a little

    Priorities change - and it really sucks if we fvck something up that can't be reversed later on in life.



    Personally I think it's cool as fvck that you're trying to be beyond better than the rest. But, just like anyone else way younger than myself or shit even if I could say it to my younger self. Take it easy - to me it sounds like you're already doing hella a good.


    Don't take this as preaching nonsense BS. Just take it at least a little easy. There's no way I can tell anyone to just not get juiced. Look what I do myself

    Male, female it don't matter - we don't need to fvck out selves up too bad.

    You're strength seems solid as hell.

    I'm being irresponsible in a responsible way.

    I've got a very different outlook/approach on life in comparison to most females/teenagers.

    I know where the line is and obviously wouldn't do anything stupid!

    Thank you though

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    Quote Originally Posted by glutepump View Post
    08/06/2014 - DELTS!

    Oh my God! I'm making some streeeenngtthh gains, not gonna write out my entire workout but....

    Standing Military Press: 5 x 5 (30KG)

    10 days ago I could only push up 25KG for 5 x 5

    Feels good!

    I know guys who weigh more than you who cannot do this.

    Your max effort would equate to something between 35-40kg (Weight x Reps x .0333 + Weight)

    What do you Bench GP? Many people who Bench high cannot Press for shite. I am actually very impressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandeur View Post
    I know guys who weigh more than you who cannot do this.

    Your max effort would equate to something between 35-40kg (Weight x Reps x .0333 + Weight)

    What do you Bench GP? Many people who Bench high cannot Press for shite. I am actually very impressed.
    Aw thank you, I was very impressed with myself aswell haha. I can clean + push press 40kg for about two reps I'm pretty sure (But that's not military obviously)

    I haven't benched just yet while on var, well I have, but I was only two days into taking it.

    I usually train bench with 30-40kg (no var) , I'll keep you updated.

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    9/06/2014 - HIGH VOLUME LEGS 10 DAYS ON VAR

    *I have never trained high volume before, I'm typing this the day after, and let's just say....I cannot move.

    Front Squats

    5 x 10 (45KG) .... Could only do 3 x 8 (40KG) before var

    Reverse Alternating Barbell Lunges

    3 x 16 (40KG)

    Superset x 3 sets

    Leg Press x 50 (45KG/100POUNDS)
    Sissy Squats x 20 (Bodyweight, focus on negative)

    Dropset x 2 sets

    Leg Extension 8,12,20




    Will be incorporating high volume into my leg workouts now, the burn is amazing!

    ~ Also, ate 400 over last night (2200 cals), I will be eating 1400 today (400 under) to make up for it. Doesn't matter since it's my rest day and I'm at class all day! Plus the var will help me from going cata!

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    Nice, sick workout, ever tried Squats and Milk? Gave me massive gains and fat loss naturally, I cant begin to imagine that effects that workout would have with an enhanced user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandeur View Post
    Nice, sick workout, ever tried Squats and Milk? Gave me massive gains and fat loss naturally, I cant begin to imagine that effects that workout would have with an enhanced user.
    nope what's that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glutepump View Post
    nope what's that?

    Take your 10MR, and do 20 Reps with it, staying under the bar and breathing until you can hit another rep.

    It is probably the hardest workout you will ever do, I fear nothing other than a true 20 Rep Squat workout.

    20 Rep Squat Program
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    12/06/2014 Deadlifts + Chest

    Not sure how this happened but I haven't done deadlifts nor trained chest for 10 days haha, been focusing on my wheels too much!

    Deadlifts: 70KG X 10 X 5 SETS (holyshit I could only lift 70kg for 1 set of 5....10 days ago)
    60KG X 10 X 5 SETS

    Bench: 40KG X 5 X 5 SETS (again...holyshit, massive pump)
    30KG X 10 X 5 SETS

    Can't be bothered writing out my entire workout, loving the var so far!!

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