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09-03-2016, 12:45 AM #527
Be sure you don't overuse the ephedra. I know it feels good, but stay too long on it and the receptors it works on will down-regulate. That means you will feel like crap without it, and it will worsen over time. Occasional use is fine.
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09-03-2016, 12:52 AM #528
Take note of what bizzaro stated because he's right but well done and use it when needed.
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09-03-2016, 11:01 AM #531
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09-03-2016, 05:26 PM #533
Protocol is 2 doses. I just do one about 1230 or 1 in afternoon. It robs me of my appetite so I would never eat.
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09-08-2016, 02:25 AM #542
I can't even properly split the pill into quarters.... I'm awaiting lab results for 75mg e3.5d, if E2 is on the high side lowering test is my way to go. Tested for DHT also.
Do you have any thoughts about the talk I was having with marcus (HIT thread)? I have to carefully weight the cons (gear availabilty, genuinity, long-term outcomes) provided it yields any benefit as it might do not. I'm so tired of feeling this way from TRTmy real question is: what would you do if you were in my boots?
I'll check bloods first to see if there is any substancial room for improvement, then decide.
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09-08-2016, 07:25 AM #544
Yes it makes perfect sense.
I'm on 150mg weekly now, if levels are on the high side I will lower it to 100mg, split to bi-weekly IM.
I don't really fancy Subq, neither pinning more than 2x week.
I'm not feeling any estro sides on 75mg biweekly, maybe some pimple here and there, not sure if estrogenic, even. What I think is best is adjusting tT levels according to E2, but I cannot get the sensitive assay, so what i can do best is judge by feel.
With Nebido I felt better around the 1200 ng/dl, or upper range mark. At 800, I didn't have enough E2, not sure if it would be the same for TE (due to faster ester cleavage). I'm not going back to TU as it took almost a year to feel some (minor) improvement, SHBG stays high on it, and I'd need another compound to dial it down.
As levels get lower, so do sides, but symptoms don't improve overall, that's the problem.
You cannot compare 500-600 ng/dl on exogenous test with natural levels, as the testes release other steroids on their own (E2, DHT). It seems to all boil down to the ratios, T/E2 or DHT/E2. Perhaps my body only knows how to sapiently manipulate these in order to feel great, but that function is lost, and I must make up for it.
I'm curious to experiment with different compounds. I've pinned as low as 50mg of primo and that reversed the low muscle tone from TRT. It's a DHT-derivate, but works differently from endogenous DHT, has higher AR binding affinity than test while displaying lower androgenic power. It's also non-aromatizable and non-reducible, and lacks potential to be converted into neurosteroids. 19-nors are peculiar, as they are progestins structurally, and might lack some non-genomic actions of androgens.
I've ordered DHT bloods but in fact I don't know how to interpret it as while normal it might be still a problem for me, and many odds point to it.
There is one thing I'm sure though, and that is I'm sure I will sort out this mess, one day...
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09-08-2016, 04:31 PM #545
Hi there friend! You are looking incredible. Ephedra huh? Haven't seen that stuff in years. I honestly didn't know it was around anymore, pretty naive of me. I used to love that stuff for the energy!
So i ended up getting sick again, but I am actually 100% finally! After a month of walking pneumonia. It was blah. My body felt better for a perioud of time but then shit out on me again. Finally back up and running!!!! Missed you!!!
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09-11-2016, 06:43 AM #552
Ok i was wrong. Good genes also i think. But u talk too much. deal with it
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