Still natural, but have reached a platou. Cycle advice needed.

**dschneid** · 01-05-2005, 10:12 PM

Here are my pics. I felt I have reached a platou and want to do a cycle soon, anyone have any good suggestions?

**seanw** · 01-05-2005, 10:15 PM

Mate show us the front, what are your stats ? What do you want to get out of a cycle ? Have you cycled before ? Have a look at this Cycles for the Newbie

**dschneid** · 01-05-2005, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by seanw

Mate show us the front, what are your stats ? What do you want to get out of a cycle ? Have you cycled before ? Have a look at this Cycles for the Newbie

I have no cycle experience, I want to get a little bigger and then loose some bodyfat.

Don't have too many front pics but here are two

**seanw** · 01-05-2005, 10:32 PM

I would do Twelve weeks of 400mg Test E or Test C with PCT at the end, you will get great gains from that if you eat right (very important) and train hard

**dschneid** · 01-05-2005, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by seanw

I would do Twelve weeks of 400mg Test E or Test C with PCT at the end, you will get great gains from that if you eat right (very important) and train hard

Thanks for answering so quick and the link. Lots of great info on this site

**seanw** · 01-05-2005, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by dschneid

Thanks for answering so quick and the link. Lots of great info on this site

No problem, there is tons more info believe me have a look at the Educational Threads at the top of the main page.

**Sage** · 01-05-2005, 10:44 PM

u can definitely do a cycle at this point..........., but i don't think u've reached ur plateau yet...........

**dschneid** · 01-05-2005, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Sage

u can definitely do a cycle at this point..........., but i don't think u've reached ur plateau yet...........

Actually I'm not quite sure if I want to do a cycle yet but it's really tempting

My diet is quite good but I think it can be better.
And I do party almost every weekend

I will of course not drink while I am on a cycle. When you say you don't think I have reached my plateau yet it actally motivates me to stay natural a bit longer. hmmm

**seanw** · 01-05-2005, 11:10 PM

How old are you bro ?

**dschneid** · 01-05-2005, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by seanw

How old are you bro ?

26, 27 in March

**seanw** · 01-05-2005, 11:27 PM

Well you are looking pretty good for natural, you will be a LOT bigger when you get on

**dschneid** · 01-05-2005, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by seanw

Well you are looking pretty good for natural, you will be a LOT bigger when you get on

well thanks bro, I am looking forward to do a cycle but I have to be sure I have reached my absolute plateau first and be sure that my diet is as good as it can be before i start my cycle. I will post pics pictures after my first cycle

**Latimus** · 01-06-2005, 12:38 AM

left bicept isnt as big as your right...and your chest isnt big enough for your arms IMO

well done for a natty though

**PlasticFuture112** · 01-06-2005, 12:40 AM

personally i would not try a cycle yet until you tried naturally shedding off the bodyfat first. try to cut yourself up so that way when its time to bulk on a cycle you will have lower bodyfat %. during this you will be more prone to keeping the bodyfat lower and being able to recognize muscle growth rather than fat buildup. thats just my opinion though. i would never EVER think of doing a cycle unless i had at most 15% bf. your looking at upwards of 22-25% bf. but yet again, my own opinion.

**LeanMeOut** · 01-06-2005, 12:41 AM

Lookin good bro, just need to get the diet in order and you'll get over the platou

**dschneid** · 01-06-2005, 11:05 AM

thanks for good advices, I think I will diet first and see how that looks and then do a cycle.

Latimus: You are totally right, my left biceps is a bit smaller than my right,
I have tried everything but it just sems like it won't grow as much as the right