Steroids and Atrial Fibrillation

**AUSSIE99** · 01-22-2006, 01:25 AM

Is anabolic steroids ok if you have Atrial Fibrillation?

Thanks

**abstrack** · 01-22-2006, 01:35 AM

I really dont know. I would ask a doctor to be honest.

**AUSSIE99** · 01-22-2006, 01:44 AM

abstrack....
To be honest you shouldn’t say nothing than.

Is this educational forum or??

THIS IS WHAT i TALKING ABOUT.
New hope for the prevention of recurrent atrial fibrillation.
Elevated C-reactive protein (CRP) levels are associated with numerous cardiovascular diseases, and have been shown to predict future cardiac events.1 Bruins and colleagues were the first to report an association between CRP elevation and the occurrence of atrial fibrillation (AF), in their case in the context of AF following cardiac surgery.2 They demonstrated that CRP levels peaked on the second post-operative day, and that increased levels of complement-CRP complexes peaked on the second or third post-operative day. The incidence of post-operative atrial arrhythmias similarly peaks at these times. AF following cardiac surgery affects 20–50% of all patients (depending on age and type of surgery), and CRP levels in this setting can increase more than 100-fold
http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/...ull/25/13/1089

**Kale** · 01-22-2006, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by AUSSIE99

abstrack....
To be honest you shouldn’t say nothing than.
Is this educational forum or??

THIS IS WHAT i TALKING ABOUT.
New hope for the prevention of recurrent atrial fibrillation.
Elevated C-reactive protein (CRP) levels are associated with numerous cardiovascular diseases, and have been shown to predict future cardiac events.1 Bruins and colleagues were the first to report an association between CRP elevation and the occurrence of atrial fibrillation (AF), in their case in the context of AF following cardiac surgery.2 They demonstrated that CRP levels peaked on the second post-operative day, and that increased levels of complement-CRP complexes peaked on the second or third post-operative day. The incidence of post-operative atrial arrhythmias similarly peaks at these times. AF following cardiac surgery affects 20–50% of all patients (depending on age and type of surgery), and CRP levels in this setting can increase more than 100-fold
http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/...ull/25/13/1089

To be honest you should watch your frigging attitude if you want to get on here.

**thickmass** · 01-22-2006, 02:43 AM

yeah why dont you ask a friggin doctor "mate"

This is the Post Your Pics forum anyway.

**S.P.G** · 01-22-2006, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by AUSSIE99

abstrack....
To be honest you shouldn’t say nothing than.

Is this educational forum or??

THIS IS WHAT i TALKING ABOUT.
New hope for the prevention of recurrent atrial fibrillation.
Elevated C-reactive protein (CRP) levels are associated with numerous cardiovascular diseases, and have been shown to predict future cardiac events.1 Bruins and colleagues were the first to report an association between CRP elevation and the occurrence of atrial fibrillation (AF), in their case in the context of AF following cardiac surgery.2 They demonstrated that CRP levels peaked on the second post-operative day, and that increased levels of complement-CRP complexes peaked on the second or third post-operative day. The incidence of post-operative atrial arrhythmias similarly peaks at these times. AF following cardiac surgery affects 20–50% of all patients (depending on age and type of surgery), and CRP levels in this setting can increase more than 100-fold
http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/...ull/25/13/1089

Plan and simple

**Booz** · 01-22-2006, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by AUSSIE99

abstrack....
To be honest you shouldn’t say nothing than.

Is this educational forum or??

THIS IS WHAT i TALKING ABOUT.
New hope for the prevention of recurrent atrial fibrillation.
Elevated C-reactive protein (CRP) levels are associated with numerous cardiovascular diseases, and have been shown to predict future cardiac events.1 Bruins and colleagues were the first to report an association between CRP elevation and the occurrence of atrial fibrillation (AF), in their case in the context of AF following cardiac surgery.2 They demonstrated that CRP levels peaked on the second post-operative day, and that increased levels of complement-CRP complexes peaked on the second or third post-operative day. The incidence of post-operative atrial arrhythmias similarly peaks at these times. AF following cardiac surgery affects 20–50% of all patients (depending on age and type of surgery), and CRP levels in this setting can increase more than 100-fold
http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/...ull/25/13/1089

apart from the fact this is in the wrong forum,with issues as seriouse as this you should go and see a doctor as Abstrack has suggested!!i mean why would you listen to someone on here who may not really know wat he/she is talking about!!when a doctor should!!
oh yeah sort the attitude out,it will get you a one way ticket to ta ta'sville!

**SwoleCat** · 01-22-2006, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by AUSSIE99

Is anabolic steroids ok if you have Atrial Fibrillation?

Thanks

Wrong forum f*ckface.

As well, you smarting off to one of our mods is not acceptable here.

See a doctor you stupid f*ck.

~SC~

**SwoleCat** · 01-22-2006, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by AUSSIE99

Is this educational forum or??

Not, it's the MEMBERS PICS FORUM you f*cking Harvard scholar.

What a dipshit.

~SC~

**abstrack** · 01-22-2006, 01:44 PM

I think all bases have been covered here, LOL

**chest6** · 01-22-2006, 03:17 PM

Hey..not only did you post this in the wrong forum..but then you go disrespecting a mod. If you know the answer to your question..why fvckin ask it? Smart guy you are. Lets see some pics..since this is the MEMBERS PICTURES forum.

**SwoleCat** · 01-22-2006, 07:15 PM

He has no pictures, just an attitude and a micropenis.

~SC~

***Narkissos*** · 01-22-2006, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

He has no pictures, just an attitude and a micropenis.

~SC~

and 'suspended' under his username...

**pioneer** · 01-22-2006, 07:24 PM

Wow, can you r-e-a-d??

**All Marine** · 01-22-2006, 08:35 PM

WOW.....Tough Crowd

**Kale** · 01-22-2006, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by All Marine

WOW.....Tough Crowd

Not really, the guys has been here five minutes and he already acting like a fvcktard !!!!

**thickmass** · 01-23-2006, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

Not really, the guys has been here five minutes and he already acting like a fvcktard !!!!

I don't believe it was an act....

***Alex*** · 01-24-2006, 01:29 PM

another one bites to dust!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**bigger** · 01-24-2006, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

He has no pictures, just an attitude and a micropenis.

~SC~

**IronReload04** · 01-24-2006, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by AUSSIE99

Is anabolic steroids ok if you have Atrial Fibrillation?

Thanks

in a case like this, would you trust somone you dont know?

**Wayne3** · 02-04-2006, 04:23 AM

Hi im a doctor, i have worked in cardiology for a while too. Let me try and give my opinion about the question raised. Firstly the quoted article has nothing to do with anabolic steroids , it refers to glucocorticoids whice are absolutely not anabolic steroids . In medcine mostly when we talk about steroids it refers to glucocorticoids which are probably most frequently used in asthma and other inflamatory/rhumatoid conditions (eg for arthrites/SLE etc).

The study if u read it aussie actualy seems to condone glucocorticoids because of their crp lowering effect and seems to suggest that it might reduce AF.

No doubt you googled "steroid " and "atrial fib" and came up with this, i have met alot of people into gym and to them the word steroid unequivocally means anabolics/testosterone , so hopefully i can clear it up for those new to AAS that sexsteroids are completely different from glucocorticoids (eg prednisone,budeflam etc), otherwise wed see alot of buffed asthma kids !

To my knowledge I have never seen a convincing study or PROOF that AAS cause MI/AF, the only cardiovascular effect proved i would say is their temporary change in your lipid profile / ratio, ie lowering the good cholesterol, in that sense you are, for the time using juice, a bit predisposed. But honestly you know that a process like atherosclerorsis takes like 20 years or longer to develop into symptomatic obstruction of heart vessels - hopefully noone here will be juicin that long continously lol !

Hope This Helps
Dr Wayne

**Kale** · 02-04-2006, 07:41 AM

Hey Wayne, awsome to have a real Dr on board mate. Do you juice ?

**Wayne3** · 02-05-2006, 01:00 AM

Yep real Dr, im currently workin at a tertiary hospital, Tygerberg Hospital, in Cape Town South Africa. Funny you should ask im currently on a cycle, 2nd one ever, just started like 4 days ago deca /sust/dbol .

**Kale** · 02-05-2006, 01:10 AM

kewl, so you obviously dont believe in all the bullshit they teach you about how bad juice is for you

**thickmass** · 02-05-2006, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by Wayne3

Yep real Dr, im currently workin at a **** hospital, ****** Hospital, in ***** South Africa. Funny you should ask im currently on a cycle, 2nd one ever, just started like 4 days ago deca/sust/dbol.

are steroids illegal in Sarth Efrika?

if so, you may wanna edit your post to remove the name of the hospital.

Can't be too careful...

**Kale** · 02-05-2006, 01:30 AM

Yeah good point Mass !!!! Hey Wayne, Mass and I are both Aussies and we love taking the piss out of Seth Efrikans as I am sure you do of us. I see the one day internationals are going well for you guys

***Narkissos*** · 02-05-2006, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

Yeah good point Mass !!!! Hey Wayne, Mass and I are both Aussies and we love taking the piss out of Seth Efrikans as I am sure you do of us. I see the one day internationals are going well for you guys

Rallllly.. Rally roun' the West Indies

Brian Lara forever!

**Kale** · 02-05-2006, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

Rallllly.. Rally roun' the West Indies

Brian Lara forever!

Wanker

**ItalianMuscle27** · 02-05-2006, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

Wrong forum f*ckface.

As well, you smarting off to one of our mods is not acceptable here.

See a doctor you stupid f*ck.

~SC~

Great post..

**keth'naab** · 02-05-2006, 10:07 AM

how the hell is this guys' rep still in the green?

Ultimately, coming onto a forum of internet peoples and asking a serious question regarding your health takes stupidity to a whole new level.

honestly, when I see questions like this, I want to say "no man, it doesn't harm you nor atrial fib. In fact, you should take cocaine and heroin, as I hear they assist the he****g process. In fact, take them together. With some cyanide"

see....stupidity will always find a way. If I had my druthers, I'd take the warning labels off everything and simply let nature take its course. Y'know, survival of the fittest, weeding out the weak/stupid/worthless, etc.