Pics before my Very controversial cycle...grrr

**ImACrazyJewDaddy** · 06-26-2006, 03:04 PM

Just wanted to post up some pics before my cycle of either phera-plex...or trenadrol. I dont know about tren just yet though, because the other post on here says it might not be the same as Alris orig. God damnit, maybe i should just go for it because i know alot of people on this board want some feedback on it just as bad as i do LMAO

**ImACrazyJewDaddy** · 06-26-2006, 03:06 PM

Just really got to get a bigger chest dontcha think, but its hard with long arms

**ImACrazyJewDaddy** · 06-26-2006, 03:52 PM

bump

**copenhagen** · 06-26-2006, 05:27 PM

what dosages are you running

**Papi93** · 06-26-2006, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by ImACrazyJewDaddy

Just wanted to post up some pics before my cycle of either phera-plex...or trenadrol. I dont know about tren just yet though, because the other post on here says it might not be the same as Alris orig. God damnit, maybe i should just go for it because i know alot of people on this board want some feedback on it just as bad as i do LMAO

Go with the trenadrol. I very interested in the results that it will produce.

**Superhuman** · 06-26-2006, 06:23 PM

wow I really don't think you should be doing juice yet, but I'm sure everyone's already told you that.

**Superhuman** · 06-26-2006, 06:25 PM

your profile says 7-9%, but there is now way you are below 10 or 11%

**ImACrazyJewDaddy** · 06-26-2006, 11:17 PM

yea i need to edit it, that was back when i weighed 145-150ish and playing ice hockey. Im trying to bulk up, i weigh 165-170, im happy except my chest is impossible to get fuller, i have these damn monkey arms. Im not that big i know trying to get their, but hell i can ****ing lift heavy...and not just for my size. Chest and abs, and my ass are the only spots where i have BF.....its ridiculous.

**Superhuman** · 06-27-2006, 07:07 AM

well, I think you look good - but seriously give it some time before your next cycle. Who am I to talk, though? I started when I weighed about 175. Remember to eat. Your cycles is going to be a waste if you don't eat like a horse

**ImACrazyJewDaddy** · 06-27-2006, 07:34 AM

yea, i figured that out the hard way before...before i knew about this site and didnt research and jumped right in without knowing what i was doin. This place teached me something new everyday. And for the eating thing, i would be eating 5,000 cals a day 1,000 more than what im doing now

**LetsGetItOn** · 06-27-2006, 09:51 AM

Good Luck with it man, just make sure you have everything set and planned out and know what your doing.

I agree with Papi, try out the trenadrol, I'm interested in hearing a cycle.

You said you are lifting heavy, what's heavy? Some stats?

I have long arms as well, do you do use dumbbells a lot? Dumbbell work really helped me out a lot and improved my barbell later as well. Good dumbbell work should help you start adding to your chest. What exercises do you do for chest?

**ImACrazyJewDaddy** · 06-27-2006, 10:19 AM

box squats: 295 X 10, 315 x 7, 365 x 5, 405 x 3
Weighted dips: +35lbsx9, +55x6, +90x4
Plyo-box dips: +90lbsx8, +135x5, +150lbsx3
Deadlift:my max is about 375 now

Decline bench: 175x6, 185x4,190x2
flat: Max about 195 (sucks ass)
Incline dumbell press. I usually do 3-4 sets starting with the heaviest i can do. I use 60's

**tinyguy2** · 06-27-2006, 10:28 AM

why not eat something instead of donig steroids you have like no muscles and your gonig to do steroids? wait till your like 190 and have arms that arent 14's...your jsut going to hurt yourself in the long run..and you need to work on your back more than anything. thats probably why you bench 195...a big back leads to a big bench.

**C_Bino** · 06-27-2006, 11:43 AM

I agree with tinyguy for the most part here. There is no need for you to touch anything AAS related. You simply arent training and eating right to grow, so adding steroids /prohormones into the mix will do absolutely jack for you since you dont know how to grow properly naturally.

The reason your chest is small isnt because you have long arms, that makes no sense at all. Its because you dont know how to stimulate the muscle properly. You really need to rethink your whole approach imo.

**ImACrazyJewDaddy** · 06-27-2006, 12:45 PM

Ok. Ill take the advice, because you guys obviously know what your talking about. But it wouldnt hurt to buy now, and use later when i get to the right size. Ill let you guys know how the trainging is comming if your interested to know

**Superhuman** · 06-27-2006, 12:51 PM

i'm happy to see that you're so receptive to our suggestions. we are just looking out for you bro. I started AAS (albeit at low doses) when I was pretty small. now I'm looking really good, but my growth has started to slow down. I can't take steroids to break my plateu because I'm already on them!! My next step is GH, which is not affordable to me right now. The best way to go is to get AS BIG AS POSSIBLE without steroids, then when you are 100% sure than you cannot get any bigger without chemical enhancement you should start.

**tinyguy2** · 06-27-2006, 01:20 PM

When you get as huge and sexy as me you can start using aas's..jk. i used m1t once before i knew it was a steroid and regret it completely.. i have just read things on other forums and learned how to have a proper diet and i have gained alot of weight that way...I'm still years away from steroids and im bigger than you are by about 30 pounds. how old are you anyway?

**ImACrazyJewDaddy** · 06-28-2006, 06:03 PM

Im 19, and i know im young and can still gain weight naturally, but I get really impatient when i see my friends take this shit, and get big fast lol. Bad concept on the perspective of things, but everyone knows the feeling of jealousy. And theirs know way i would disregard the knowledge and opions of you guys on this board, because then i wouldn't have a reason to be a member. And for tinyguy, i may not be huge but i sure am sexy already Got to love the italians bro lol

**tinyguy2** · 06-28-2006, 08:36 PM

haha im a pale german irish.....19 is too young your going to mess up your hormones and not have them when you older just eat right...the bigger you get the more jealous you get believe me..you are always looking at other people and measurign yourself up...one cycle isnt going to get you huge anyway...girls like 6 packs not big guys look at brad pitt hes like 150, he is just real cut. dont ruin your self. you wotn jsut do one cyucle when you see it works good u get addicted. i dotn think anyone has ever just doen one cycle...be smart about stuff i want to juice it real bad but im waiting...

i jsut posted pics let me know what you think...http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=1#post2838869

thanks

**rake922** · 07-17-2006, 09:45 AM

ImACrazyJewDaddy, updates?

**ImACrazyJewDaddy** · 07-18-2006, 02:28 PM

Yea, i bought generic labz version of it for 35.00 with shiipping included. But, i sold to a classmate of mine for 50$. LOL I wanted to see if you got anything out of it first. Ill let you guys no how his relults go. Im post-poning any use of steroids till im older and a bit bigger. The "kid" i sold them to took dianabol by itself like a year ago, no pct, no supporting supps....he was a wrestler, and he's ripped still. Bench's 265 easliy like 10 times. Just turned 18, weighs like 180 i beleive......but all he does is chest workouts and nothing else.......I told him that he was going to need supporting supplements for his liver and cholestrol, pct..ect ect He tells me this" Nah, i think ill just take this my liver is strong enough..thanks man" He didnt know what pct was........

**tinyguy2** · 07-18-2006, 03:07 PM

and that is why steroids are demonized by the public becuase of stupid people

**Superhuman** · 07-18-2006, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by ImACrazyJewDaddy

Yea, i bought generic labz version of it for 35.00 with shiipping included. But, i sold to a classmate of mine for 50$. LOL I wanted to see if you got anything out of it first. Ill let you guys no how his relults go. Im post-poning any use of steroids till im older and a bit bigger. The "kid" i sold them to took dianabol by itself like a year ago, no pct, no supporting supps....he was a wrestler, and he's ripped still. Bench's 265 easliy like 10 times. Just turned 18, weighs like 180 i beleive......but all he does is chest workouts and nothing else.......I told him that he was going to need supporting supplements for his liver and cholestrol, pct..ect ect He tells me this" Nah, i think ill just take this my liver is strong enough..thanks man" He didnt know what pct was........

that's great that you made a couple bucks - but as a seller is should also be your responsibility to make sure he knows how to use it safely - not just meaning proper PCT but also proper injection protocal. if this kid dies because he doesn't know what aspirating is and injects into a vein it would be on you! make sure you tell him.

oh, and FYI it's probably not a good idea to be open about the fact that you are selling anything illegal - use is one thing, but dealing is much worse and I guarantee you that Feds check this site from time to time and IP addresses can be tracked easily.

**ImACrazyJewDaddy** · 07-18-2006, 08:06 PM

Superhuman, what the hell are you talking about???? Generic Labz sells a phera-plex alternative called Phera-max. Thats what i bought,sold...LEGALLY. so i guess the feds wont be comming after me. FYI even if i told this person the proper way to do shit, he wouldnt listen, he's a cocky mother****er and beleives he can kick the shit out of anyone...he wont listen to a damn word anyone says..but thanks for caring lol

**ImACrazyJewDaddy** · 07-18-2006, 08:06 PM

Superhuman, what the hell are you talking about???? Generic Labz sells a phera-plex alternative called Phera-max. Thats what i bought,sold...LEGALLY. so i guess the feds wont be comming after me. FYI even if i told this person the proper way to do shit, he wouldnt listen, he's a cocky mother****er and beleives he can kick the shit out of anyone...he wont listen to a damn word anyone says..but thanks for caring lol

**rake922** · 07-18-2006, 09:50 PM

He was talking about injecting into a vein, yet you didn't mention any injectible roid

**Superhuman** · 07-18-2006, 10:03 PM

I don't keep up with all these pro-hormones, just the real stuff, so excuse me geraldo. I thought he was talking about tren and generic labz was the UGL name.

sorry for the confusion jewdaddy, ANYWAY props to you for thinking things through and making an informed decision.

**chest6** · 07-18-2006, 11:01 PM

Well at least you didnt take them..

**ImACrazyJewDaddy** · 07-19-2006, 07:56 AM

no problem superhuman.....besides, i had to find a guine pig. lol

**stayinstacked** · 07-19-2006, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by ImACrazyJewDaddy

Just really got to get a bigger chest dontcha think, but its hard with long arms

Arnold Schwarzenegger had long arms too

**gr8twht** · 07-19-2006, 02:43 PM

yeah and did PLENTY of the real did s*** ...... he sure as heck wouldn't taking creatine

**gr8twht** · 07-19-2006, 02:47 PM

and tinyguy is correct, once you start you will get addicted .......... i did a cycle about 10 yrs ago and then did me another about a year later, and now would like to do another but it's money that keeps me from being addicted to it ..... s**t is very expensive once you start and try and keep that look, because believe me it does go away, and you'll deflate like a balloon!
a friend of mine that i got hooked up on it with, did it for about a year or two solid, and then i didn't see him for like two years after that, and wow, he was a very small person! said he couldn't afford it any longer

**ImACrazyJewDaddy** · 07-19-2006, 05:34 PM

That's unfortunate. But, the good news is im waiting..and still gaining weight/stregth naturally. Im up about another 5 or so lbs, bench is up too, got my decline up to 205 for 2, flat is is stuck at 195, and everything else is up about a rep or so. Im likeing it...thanks for all the support guys. O, and for stayinstack, i know alot of guys who can bench more then me, but not squat nearly as much as me because they say they have "long femurs". So their must be something in correlation that makes it a bit more difficult.

**ImACrazyJewDaddy** · 07-19-2006, 05:42 PM

o, and as for that "kid" i havent seen or heard from him for a about a week and a half so far..maybe ill see him friday morn.

**tinyguy2** · 07-19-2006, 06:10 PM

um i have long arms and long legs. i bench and squat a good amount. having longs arms is an excuse just liek long "femurs". chest size doesnt have to do with the amount you bench. there are bodybuilders with chest bigger than 800 pound benchers. power lifters bench with there tris and back bbers with there chests. there is a correlation with long arms and worse benches. the arms have to go a further distance making it harder but 195 is a pretty weak bench. im 6'1 so im pretty sure i have long arms. why would you think about taking steroids when you bench like a newbie. your going to be gainign naturaly for probably a few years. what are your stats? and how much do you squat? and are these squats past parrellel or newbie squats aka half squats?

**mwolffey** · 07-19-2006, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by stayinstacked

Arnold Schwarzenegger had long arms too

lol....me too, and im doing fine in that department

**timtim** · 07-19-2006, 08:50 PM

bench is up too, got my decline up to 205 for 2, flat is is stuck at 195,

this your bench?

box squats: 295 X 10, 315 x 7, 365 x 5, 405 x 3
Weighted dips: +35lbsx9, +55x6, +90x4
Plyo-box dips: +90lbsx8, +135x5, +150lbsx3
Deadlift:my max is about 375 now

call bullshit on those numbers especially the box squat and weighted dips. your frame isnt moving those weights unless the box is 24 inches high and the dips are 2 inches deep. sorry. those are big numbers from someone with a thin frame and your bench is only @60% more than those dips. sorry, not a flame. those numbers look way off. maybe the deadlift is there, but no way on the others. good work on the weight gain and with the ph's.

**tinyguy2** · 07-19-2006, 09:11 PM

yeah those are definitely fake numbers. why not do a real squat below parallel and see what your number is. im betting its in the 200's. you probably got chicken legs right?

**DutchCowboy** · 07-19-2006, 10:32 PM

I would say don't juice, but then again it worked for this guy:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=229327

**ImACrazyJewDaddy** · 07-20-2006, 09:44 AM

Im sorry to dissapoint you but those are not fake numbers. Those numbers are dead on target. Why the hell would i lie??? My legs are my strongest points on me with years of playing hockey on them, reason being why i didnt post any pics because i know they are fine...i wanted you guys to commment on my upper body to see what helpfull information i could gather from you guys. Im disappointed.