Need advise please

**h4mer** · 07-10-2006, 03:14 PM

Hi,
These are pics from last year my fist 3 pics wer jan 2005 and last 2 pics oct 2005, before(165lb)and after 2 cycles(187lb) my first cycle was
2 amps of sust(500ml) a week for 12 weeks
and 200ml of deca on week 1,6 and 12,sounds strange naw i look back at it but it was posted as a good cycle somewhere and i gained about 22 pounds
and a month later i went on
750ml test e a week and 600ml of deca a week for twelve weeks and gained an extra 6 pounds
i was at 185lb a year before these pics but lost everything due to a torn shoulder ligament(arm resiling in bulgaria wouldnt recomend it some monsters out there)so most was muscle memory,
im naw at 196lb 5'11'' not sure of bf but i got most of my six pack showing,
im trying to get past 196lb to 210lb hopefully so i need some advise on wat someone else here would do in my shoes?
this is wat iv been advised
1250ml of test enth a week for 12 weeks
1000ml deca a week for 12 weeks
and 50 mg ed of oxymetholone from week 6 to week 12
sound ok?

**chest6** · 07-10-2006, 04:29 PM

Looks good but it seems you rely on gear WAY too much. Am I reading this right..you ran a cycle then waited a month..and ran another 12 weeker? Seems like you really don't know what you are doing. You are nowhere near ready to run 2g of gear physically. I would forget about the aas for now and focus on diet..because it seems like you really lack it. You gained 6lbs after 12 weeks of test750 and 600mg deca ?? Part of that is because you didn't allow your body ANYWHERE NEAR enough time to recover its natural hormones, and part of it is because I am sure you really lack a correct diet protocol. If I were you I'd start researching and forget your old mentality.

**onehundredk** · 07-10-2006, 04:59 PM

love juice too...oh well, his body will slowly recover, now itll take twice as long and maybe some help with natural supplements. and you should be back to normal in about a year...have you gotten a blood test, check your natural testosterone , free testosterone, liver funcitons and kidney functions, and the normal blood panel with cholestrol etc...you should make sure you didnt mess something up by abusing your gear...a good friend of mine, used gear too much, andso long story short...he ended up going to the doctor after 3 years of abusing, and found out he got brain damage, ...body forgot how to make testoserone on its own..the good news, hes got a perscription for test now

**onehundredk** · 07-10-2006, 05:00 PM

but on a good note...great looking gains, and just take a break for your body to recover

**h4mer** · 07-10-2006, 05:06 PM

it was somthing my mate said to doi ran clomid from week 10 then hcg
he said to keep my test levels up high i normally have about 3 months off due to my acne as it takes that to disapear and my diet is pretty good i get all my dieting avise from same mate(sounds good dont it)but he is 230lb ripped so i thought it was good advise,
i was off away on abroad and was desparate to get back in shape
and i didnt think it was possible to gain more than 28 lb a year without gaining fat?and i do a lot of resurching but only on what im taking and it says that test enth needs to be run longer cycles and can b run all year round wich is comon in powerlifters at high doses a day?i dont mean to be questioning you it just seems that no forum gives the same advise on the gear,you obviously no wat your on about (17,097 posts)its just ive hit a stop and to get through it,ive swaped my training days and mixed my routines,and i thought id up my test and see wat happens

**timtim** · 07-10-2006, 07:29 PM

way, way too much gear for your upcoming cycle.

**QUEBECBIGMAN** · 07-11-2006, 12:09 AM

your are a testo machine with this amount of gear you should add gh and wait for the disaster(big problem at 50 years) to come .
relax ....man life is short is it end at 50

**bolin** · 07-11-2006, 12:25 AM

What do you meen by... big problem at 50 years???

**h4mer** · 07-11-2006, 05:12 AM

long time to wait!lol

**QUEBECBIGMAN** · 07-11-2006, 12:17 PM

im a year round cycler but with small dose
if you go heavy on dosage you have a lot more of problem
more result two so it is your hand
me to i love the gear but dedication and patience is bether them 1500 ml of test a week
but i have to admit it must give a great ****ing bost!!!!!