lets see before and after cutting pics, HARD TIME DECIDING WHAT TO DO, HELP. pics ins

**gained75** · 10-02-2006, 12:37 PM

please all post your cutting result pics with weight info, aas or not, and any other supps used as well, im currently 6'1 223 lbs at about 14-15% ( i think)bf and am having a VERY hard time trying to decide to cut down to 200ish lbs natty, or to bulk up to about 240 with a small cycle, and then cut for summer down to about 210 ish, anyone please help me with info on what would work best. here are a couple pics of me

**gained75** · 10-02-2006, 12:38 PM

also i guess my main concern with cutting is that i will look small and loose size but ive seen some people who look bigger after losing 25 lbs, hmmm

**Carlos_E** · 10-02-2006, 02:01 PM

If you're considering running a cycle run a lean cut cycle. Your weight may not change much but you'll add some muscle mass and cut fat at the same time.

**gained75** · 10-02-2006, 02:04 PM

carlos thanks for the advice, let me make sure i understand how i would do that, as a guess i would guess run about maint cals or maybe a tiny below, eat very clean, and hit up the cardio alot?

**lightwaytbaby** · 10-02-2006, 07:48 PM

i would suggest run a bulking cycle, put on some mass(you have a great base) considering its winter, and then when summer comes around cut it all up.FWIW i think your at about 11-12%BF, so bulk up and put some quality mass on...

**JohnboyF** · 10-02-2006, 07:56 PM

I don't think your 14-15% either..

**bigpopapump** · 10-02-2006, 08:33 PM

looking good, body fat is more like 12%. Would like to see the wheels

SVTMuscle* · 10-02-2006, 08:47 PM

you look real good man, i'd say bulk...fuk it it's winter time!

**Undecided09** · 10-02-2006, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by SVTMuscle

you look real good man, i'd say bulk...fuk it it's winter time!

Exactly, and as far as your idea behind weighing less and looking bigger, that is a matter of diet and cardio...If you diet propery and hit some cardio, you can shed some serious BF, save as much LBM as possible, and the end result is weighing 10-15 lbs less than you do now, but looking like you weight 10-15 lbs more...You leave nothing but your muscle and this can produce a nice shape resulting in the appearance of "size"/"weight", opposed to the "mass" look, where in fact your are bigger and weigh more, but you don't have the definition creating the illusion of size...

~M.A.D.

**Undecided09** · 10-02-2006, 10:27 PM

before contest Prep....and 12 days out....

**gained75** · 10-03-2006, 10:05 AM

do you have pics before you started cutting? also what was your weight previous and current?

**rake922** · 10-03-2006, 12:21 PM

I can't see your toes

**Undecided09** · 10-03-2006, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by gained75

do you have pics before you started cutting? also what was your weight previous and current?

Those first two are before cutting for contest prep, ill see if I can find better examples of bulk and skinnyness though.....

ok...here we go....

first two pics, 185-189 at my heaviest this summer, next three 170 right now.....

~M.A.D.

**SnaX** · 10-03-2006, 10:49 PM

I get the impression this above guy likes to post his pictures a lot....

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-03-2006, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by SnaX

I get the impression this above guy likes to post his pictures a lot....

LOL same here.

**Undecided09** · 10-03-2006, 11:31 PM

Whats wrong with that??? If you have pictures ur proud of that is...

**gained75** · 10-03-2006, 11:37 PM

nice, you can definatly tell a differance with only 15 lbs. can any body else post before and after cut pics with weight info, im looking at bulking to 240-245 then cutting down to 205 for summer

**Undecided09** · 10-04-2006, 08:41 PM

well you gotta remember gained, 15 pounds is all relative, 15 for u is different than 15 for me, its all about how that weight relates to the percentage of your total weight and how much bf you carry...I carry very little even if im bulkin, so 15 pounds for me is alot...But i'm not one to worry about weight, it tells you nothing, i go by look, thats the most important thing!

~M.A.D.

**AnabolicAndre** · 10-04-2006, 08:46 PM

I could but nothing really to be impressed with hahah

You look good man, it seems like you are holding some water in those pics though. As far as that lean mass cycle, If you keep calories at maitenence you will loose fat and keep and most likly add some mass too

**IBdmfkr** · 10-04-2006, 09:14 PM

lol how did his pics get in this member pics thread? LMAO..

that was pretty funny..

Gained75, how do your legs compare to your upper? I'd say you still have tons of potential without AAS but a nicely setup cycle would do you well if you have your diet/training on key.

Things that stick out most being underdeveloped are shoulders and upper chest, traps/arms look great. Let us know what you decide.

**Undecided09** · 10-04-2006, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by gained75

please all post your cutting result pics with weight info, aas or not, and any other supps used as well

Thats How I B...

**spound** · 10-04-2006, 10:05 PM

What are you looking too see what you may look like if you may bulk up to 240 and then cut down?? It will be different for everyone.

Here is a pic of me at 252 when I was bulking of course LOL and then day of my contest weighing in at 207 (before carb up)..although I think the scale my have been heavy. I was 6'1"

I am sticking my stomach out in the first one for added effect, but none the less, I am sure you can see the difference lol.........

This first pic to the second was a 16wk transformation.

**IBdmfkr** · 10-04-2006, 11:27 PM

Those are great pics Spound.. You looked kickass at that show for sure. What a difference it makes when you take all the bullshit off a nice physique.. imagine if PL'ers ever cut.. they'd be great bodybuilders IMO.

**chest6** · 10-05-2006, 12:15 AM

Lol undecided how did ur pics manage to get on this doods thread?

**Undecided09** · 10-05-2006, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by gained75

please all post your cutting result pics with weight info, aas or not, and any other supps used as well

Tell me ur kidding Chest....

**IBdmfkr** · 10-05-2006, 01:01 PM

!!

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-05-2006, 01:06 PM

Damn spound those pics are amazing! I feel like crap at the moment as i lost all my definition while bulking. Your pics have given we a new boost of confidence! I hate looking puffy but it's good to see the results afterwards!

**CoreyTampa09** · 10-05-2006, 01:21 PM

Spound..what type of a cycle did you do for that..thats amazing results...very hydroxycut esq

**NYGIANTS21** · 10-05-2006, 01:38 PM

Undecided clean your room....J/K look good and keep it up.

Spound....Good Lord I'm F'n lost for words

**1320bike** · 10-05-2006, 06:34 PM

Go for bulk

**gained75** · 10-06-2006, 11:51 AM

k guys just an update, ive started the cycle as of monday and yesterday was my second shot. im gonna keep diet as clean as possible to gain mostly lean muscle. im guessing i will get up to apprx 240-250 lbs when done, hell im allready at 225 (gotta love the water) lol, and to spound thanks for the post that was EXACTLY what i was looking for, also in the heavy pic what do you think your bf was? 17 ish?

**spound** · 10-08-2006, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by gained75

also in the heavy pic what do you think your bf was? 17 ish?

Yea...probably about that. Like I said...I was sticking out my belly as far as I could in that picture.

**spound** · 10-08-2006, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

Damn spound those pics are amazing! I feel like crap at the moment as i lost all my definition while bulking. Your pics have given we a new boost of confidence! I hate looking puffy but it's good to see the results afterwards!

THanks bro, but don't worry, I don't look like that right now, that was the day of my show. I am kinda puffy right now too!! HAHA

**T3/T4 GSR** · 10-08-2006, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by spound

What are you looking too see what you may look like if you may bulk up to 240 and then cut down?? It will be different for everyone.

Here is a pic of me at 252 when I was bulking of course LOL and then day of my contest weighing in at 207 (before carb up)..although I think the scale my have been heavy. I was 6'1"

I am sticking my stomach out in the first one for added effect, but none the less, I am sure you can see the difference lol.........

This first pic to the second was a 16wk transformation.

wow dude that is a big change in a few months. I plan to do a big cut this spring but I am afraid I am gonna look to skinny. I am an incher shorter than you and 190 sitting around 13% bf. I wanna hit 200 before I actually cut and then use a great cutting cycle to build mass and cut at the same time. Since you have a lot of experiance with this do you think if I cut down to 8% I would be to small looking giving my height and weight considering I hold weight very evenly (not top heavy since my legs are in proportion to my body).

**spound** · 10-08-2006, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by T3/T4 GSR

wow dude that is a big change in a few months. I plan to do a big cut this spring but I am afraid I am gonna look to skinny. I am an incher shorter than you and 190 sitting around 13% bf. I wanna hit 200 before I actually cut and then use a great cutting cycle to build mass and cut at the same time. Since you have a lot of experiance with this do you think if I cut down to 8% I would be to small looking giving my height and weight considering I hold weight very evenly (not top heavy since my legs are in proportion to my body).

"too skinny" is a subjective statement/opinion, and in order for me to give you my opinion, in this particular case, I would need to see a picture of you. I will say this though...if your diet is SPOT ON and you are 100% dedicated thenyou will be very (pleasantly) suprised with the final product.