Help for a newb

**Jfew44** · 02-24-2008, 06:43 PM

Here are some pics, I know they aren't great quality but I dont have a digital camera so I had to use my phone. Just started first cycle, 400mg/ml test prop 1 week ago. 21 years old. 6'4" 232lbs. Very accurate weight used 3 different scales. Any lagging body parts besides my chicken legs?

**MoneyMike315** · 02-24-2008, 10:56 PM

Hmm. 1st bicep pic looks good.
2nd photo, need TRAP & CHEST work.
3rd photo Bi again decent.
4th pic. Are you stretching or flexing you back...
5th.. Legs not to bad.
Hope the cycle works for ya.

**MoneyMike315** · 02-24-2008, 11:00 PM

And clean your damn room and put those clothes away. Your 21.

**Jfew44** · 02-25-2008, 12:05 AM

haha ya i've needed to clean it for awhile now. I guess I'll do it tom... Back pic I'm not flexing just kinda pulling my shoulder blades together. And thanks for ALL the criticism (room) haha

**Lfs2shrt2bsml** · 02-25-2008, 12:19 AM

maybe just legs and lats lookin good! any idea bf%

**Jfew44** · 02-25-2008, 12:39 AM

Ya did one of those underwater tests and it was like 14-15%. Not really lookin to slim down, goin more for the bulking route. Cutting has always been really easy.

**Lfs2shrt2bsml** · 02-25-2008, 04:05 AM

yeah good idea. your lucky cutting is hard for me. what are your size goals

**AaronJM1984** · 02-25-2008, 12:56 PM

Chest, shoulders, traps, and lats need work, how are your triceps? Your biceps look good so far. I'd recommend what a lot guys told me, you need to build up some mass. I don't know what your lifts consist of, but alot of guys here told me to include, squats (not that gay smith machine either), deadlifts, and bench press. Stick with free weights, I try to steer clear of machines, too many pullys and crap taking weight off your muscles.

**awntzu** · 02-26-2008, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by AaronJM1984

Chest, shoulders, traps, and lats need work, how are your triceps? Your biceps look good so far. I'd recommend what a lot guys told me, you need to build up some mass. I don't know what your lifts consist of, but alot of guys here told me to include, squats (not that gay smith machine either), deadlifts, and bench press. Stick with free weights, I try to steer clear of machines, too many pullys and crap taking weight off your muscles.

Hey I like those squats on the gay smith machine

I agree with most of the other coments, But if you would fill your chest out you would be a monster.

**Jfew44** · 02-25-2008, 08:01 PM

Size goals are not too specific in the weight department, its all about how I look but if I were to guess I would say probably about 20-25 lbs before I cut. So in the area of 250, 255ish. I am doing mainly heavy free weight stuff. My back has always been my strongest point so I am thinking of adding a day of chest and tri?

**JSola** · 02-25-2008, 08:19 PM

decent foundation. back pose is a classic. eat big, lift heavy. i think you dont need a cycle yet. i think you still have some natural potential to fill first, but thats just me.

**Jfew44** · 02-25-2008, 08:24 PM

Thanks for the honest opinion. Im just doin an 8 week cycle of prop then natty for probably about a year give or take. Im takin in about 5000 cals a day bout 350g protein and liftin as heavy as it gets!

**AaronJM1984** · 02-25-2008, 08:34 PM

LOL, cycles are like Lays potatoe chips, you can have just one! You're gonna love the juice, my bet is he'll be doing his 2nd cycle within a few months of the first one.

**al_bundy** · 02-25-2008, 08:37 PM

i could use some one on one advise can someone pm me plz?

**Big** · 02-25-2008, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by al_bundy

i could use some one on one advise can someone pm me plz?

I have some great advice for you:
don't hijack other people's threads!

**Jfew44** · 02-25-2008, 08:52 PM

Haha well aaron, my PLAN is to wait a year!

**Ajc330** · 02-26-2008, 09:16 AM

your legs look like your strongest body part lol can i ask you a question: why do you feel like you have to use steroids ?

**Jfew44** · 02-26-2008, 01:04 PM

I have lifted weights continuously for over 5 years and have always made gains. Yes, I have hit some rough spots where I have had to switch up my diet or routine but I have consistantly made gains. When I was 16, I was 6'4" 175 lb. As of pre-(first)cycle, I am 6'4" and 232 lbs. In five years, I have gained 57 lbs. In the past five months, I have only managed to put on 4-5 lbs. I feel like I have reached a plateau that I would like to get over. This is the main reason I am choosing to use steroids . I do not have to, but want to, but thanks for the support everybody