Proffesional bbs and underage cycling

**the big 1** · 10-10-2009, 04:40 PM

im not gonna name drop, but ive seen pics of pro bbs on the web and in mags etc, and some of them are jacked!!! so much so that i strongly beleive they are juicing. So my question is (manly for veterians), have most of todays pro bbs used steroids at a young age?

And also, what would happen to a guy my age(20), if i began using steroids?
Ive read up on hpta shutdown and things like that, but i need some info in lahmans terms, the science and that behind it can get abit tricky??? thanks fellas...

***El Diablo*** · 10-11-2009, 04:23 AM

Most guys on here including me will tell u not to take juice before 24 , but i read that lee priest started between 14 and 16. I would not risk it imo

**the big 1** · 10-11-2009, 04:44 AM

JESUS!!! thats young man, lee priest dont give a **** hey!

***El Diablo*** · 10-11-2009, 04:50 AM

Precisley, there is enough time in life to be a toddler, child, adult....
I think its a personal choice however....
I started at around 24/25 and wish i could have waited it out a little more.

**the big 1** · 10-11-2009, 05:05 AM

Interesting, so how much mass have you added from juicing?

NS · 10-11-2009, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

Precisley, there is enough time in life to be a toddler, child, adult....
I think its a personal choice however....
I started at around 24/25 and wish i could have waited it out a little more.

Why do you wish that El?

**the big 1** · 10-11-2009, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by NS

Why do you wish that El?

Yeah, i thought 24 would be ok to start aswell?

**elpropiotorvic** · 10-11-2009, 05:18 AM

All pros aré on juice... To be in the. Olympia Stage u have to juice

theres moré side effects to juice than gyno and shutdown ...

**the big 1** · 10-11-2009, 06:15 AM

Yeah i know they all juice, but do they start really young? i saw a pic of branch warren at age 19, he was massive and ripped, so what im asking is, have alot of todays pros juiced at a very young age?

***El Diablo*** · 10-11-2009, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by NS

Why do you wish that El?

Just because i could have tweaked my diet a little more and there are alot of things that i learned on later in life like Slingshot training method.....
Dont get me wrong , im still glad i waited it out till round 24/25, and not like some of my friends who started younger... i still look better than 99% of them that started much younger.

**the big 1** · 10-11-2009, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

Just because i could have tweaked my diet a little more and there are alot of things that i learned on later in life like Slingshot training method.....
Dont get me wrong , im still glad i waited it out till round 24/25, and not like some of my friends who started younger... i still look better than 99% of them that started much younger.

Ok m8

Could you check my post on 'bf% estimates' please? i cant get no replies, thanks.

**Monster87** · 10-12-2009, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

Most guys on here including me will tell u not to take juice before 24 , but i read that lee priest started between 14 and 16. I would not risk it imo

Yup, that's why he's 5'4.

**Monster87** · 10-12-2009, 01:26 AM

You probly wont have to worry about hpta shutdown and stunted growth at 20. The main thing problem is you'd be cutting yourself of all the potential natural gains you're gonna make in the next few years (i know im repeating myself here)...
I gained 25 lbs of muscle and added about 100 lbs to my bench from age 20 to 22.

**22sSon** · 10-21-2009, 12:00 PM

agree with monster, dude i have put on 65 lbs of muscle in the three years i have been lifting, and my bench went from 195 to 405 all without the use of juice

**Rockin Z28** · 10-22-2009, 08:25 PM

no way on earth you put on 65 pounds of muscle in 3 years..i call hardcore BS

**nonotone** · 10-23-2009, 09:44 AM

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**Trippensee** · 10-24-2009, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by konateh

Why spend those years gaining natural when you can do it in months with steroids?

So his kids aren't born like you.

**Trippensee** · 10-24-2009, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by konateh

Why spend those years gaining natural when you can do it in months with steroids?

So his kids aren't born like you.

**sully15** · 10-24-2009, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Rockin Z28

no way on earth you put on 65 pounds of muscle in 3 years..i call hardcore BS

its possible, i put on 50 pounds in 3 years and i don't think i had a clue what i was doing the first year and a half.. if you start off as one of those crazy skinny guys (like i was) and never stepped foot in a gym, its amazing how much bigger you can get in 3 years of being addicted to the gym and eating..

**the big 1** · 10-24-2009, 09:49 AM

i think its possible to add 65lbs of mass, but it probably aint all muscle, ide say a third a least is fat.

**Rockin Z28** · 10-24-2009, 10:58 AM

doesnt matter what your natural build was, i'd say 80% of that weight gain came in the form of fat and water..putting on a REAL 2 pounds of muscle a year naturally is an impressive feat

**the big 1** · 10-24-2009, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Rockin Z28

doesnt matter what your natural build was, i'd say 80% of that weight gain came in the form of fat and water..putting on a REAL 2 pounds of muscle a year naturally is an impressive feat

Ide say its possible to add more than 2 pounds in a year in your early years in my opinion.

**biggerguns** · 10-25-2009, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by the big 1

im not gonna name drop, but ive seen pics of pro bbs on the web and in mags etc, and some of them are jacked!!! so much so that i strongly beleive they are juicing. So my question is (manly for veterians), have most of todays pro bbs used steroids at a young age?

And also, what would happen to a guy my age(20), if i began using steroids?
Ive read up on hpta shutdown and things like that, but i need some info in lahmans terms, the science and that behind it can get abit tricky??? thanks fellas...

I really dont see age as a big factor. At least be 21yrs old +. The main concern is your training experience, aas knowledge, and the will to follow a strict diet.

**nonotone** · 10-27-2009, 12:51 PM

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**thenextcutler** · 10-28-2009, 01:11 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSBl4...layer_embedded

^^^ I see the topic changed but this link is still an eye opener... 22 yrs old, natural? right...