Is this guy natty or not

[thedunhill225]

Yea its very possible he is natty. He has a good chest, good legs and good abs, delts are decent...no back at all, small arms.... He is what 170-175 at 5'10"?? You gotta use gear for that? Na... He may but its very possible he does not. Give me the average man and have him do exactly what I say and that's very possible in 6-12 months... I train more women than 20 year old guys though and the 20 something year old guys I've trained have been more size driven but any of them could have gotten his beach body. Yea it is hard work, depending on genetics, but not far fetched.

[Twin]

I believe he is natty... just good genetics. And maybe some clen ...maybe...

he has very good abdominal genetics /staying lean genetics lol


if u look at these pictures of him..
i dont see that much muscle mass. just good abs... very good abs...










i know plenty of natty people who have the same trap/chest/arm/leg/ muscle mass size as him.... just dont have the abdominal mass/cuts

[calisun]

Looks natty to me but guys like zyzz's younger brother arent very big at all and are cycling multiple things to stay lean..could be the case for him too

[lmmalone]

I'd be shocked if it was natty. Any idea what his routine/diet was like?

[Twin]

I'd be shocked if it was natty. Any idea what his routine/diet was like?

"What is your diet like?

My diet changes often, at the moment I’m eating chicken and rice, some kind of a stir-fry mix I suppose, but I recently just came from a pizza diet which believe it or not I got sick of it (eating pizza every day).

The pizza was quite healthy and was perfect since it hit my desired macro goals (Click here for recipe).

Most of the time I eat 7 meals per day, but depending on what I’m doing or where I am sometimes I only eat 3 per day, however the overall calorie intake and macronutrient breakdown for the day is always equal whether I eat 3x per day or 7x per day, meal frequency itself isn’t important anyway it has no effect on the metabolism or metabolic rate. If I only eat 3 meals per day I consume 2 or sometimes even 3 of my meals in one sitting it just depends. I also believe that meal timing is also irrelevant, the only thing I make sure of is that I hit my total calorie intake and desired macros for my goals whatever they may be.

Sample Daily Diet:

Meal 1 – Proats (protein powder and oats mixed up)
Meal 2 – Stir-fry (Chicken/brown rice/mixed veggies/almonds/pizza sauce)
Meal 3 – Stir-fry (Chicken/brown rice/mixed veggies/almonds/pizza sauce)
Meal 4 – Stir-fry (Chicken/brown rice/mixed veggies/almonds/pizza sauce) + 1/2 cup or oats + banana
Meal 5 – Proats (protein powder and oats mixed up)
Meal 6 – Dinner (Steak/chicken/fish/etc… + veggies)
Meal 7 – Casein ice cream + peanut butter
"



and his routine


What workout routine has worked best for you?

I like to train each main muscle group at high volume 1x per week with abs/calf’s 2x per week (depending on DOMS), my routine as such always changes up every now and again I always like to add in new things, I usually train by time I try to spend 1.5 hours in the gym at a time.

Here is an example of how my current workout routine looks like:

Monday: Chest/Calves/TVA

(transversus abdominis muscle)

6x Dumbell press
5x Incline barbell press
4x Dumbell decline flys
3x Standing cable cross-over’s
3x Dumbell pull over’s
6x Standing calf raise
5x Seated calf raise
5x Standing on swiss ball (using TVA to balance)

Tuesday: Back/Core

6x Rack pulls
5x Weighted pull ups
4x Barbell rows
3x Seated low cable row
3x Reverse pec deck
6x Jesus Christ ab crunches on the roman chair
5x Cable crunches
4x Hanging leg raises
3x Oblique twists with medicine ball

Wednesday: Quadriceps/ Hamstrings/Calves

6x Barbell squats
5x Leg press
4x hack squat
3x Leg extension
3x Partial bodyweight squats
5x Seated hamstring curl
6x Standing dumbell raises
5x Lying calf raises
4x Donkeys

Thursday: Shoulders/Traps/TVA

(transversus abdominis muscle)

6x Smith machine shoulder press
5x Upright rows
4x Dumbell lateral raises
3x Plate front delt raises
3x Cable face pulls
5x Barbell shrugs
4x Machine shrugs
3x Calf machine shrugs
20x Stomach vacuum
3x Planks

Friday: Arms/Core

6x Barbell curl
5x Incline dumbell curls
4x Preacher curls
3x Hammer curls
6x Tricep EZ bar push down
5x Weighted tricep dips
4x Skull crushers
3x Rope extensions
5x Jack knifes
5x Ab crunch machine
5x Decline twisting sit ups

Saturday: Rest
Sunday: Rest




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seems very insane to me. but thats what his interview says.


go on google and search josef rakich interview

[Maddawg]

Don't hate, natty or not, guy has done a great job.

[mirin_serratus]

people who seen him in real lift said he's pretty small, all his pics are pumped and close up

[Shol'va]

that could be attained all natural....i'm not homosexual but that is one sexy bitch...looks like a young richard gere

Don't matter, I am and he still is one sexy bitch... Look like the land of Oz has their new Zyzz

[C-BuZz]

Don't matter, I am and he still is one sexy bitch... Look like the land of Oz has their new Zyzz

I'm not & he's a Kiwi...

[Shol'va]

I'm not & he's a Kiwi...

yep your right, my bad...he is a kiwi. So Aussies still have their work cut out to find the new Z. He would have fit the bill though.

[Armykid93]

Dude has crazy abs lol. Looks natty to me

[Ffm]

His body fat is simply at Like 7 percent with a after workout pump this is entirely attaintnable naturally I've been 185 pounds 5.8.5 at 10 percent And the lowest ive been is 8 and water depleted I looked preety good. So this looks possible to me

[Far from massive]

The thing to me that makes it hard to guess on the juice yes or no is the age thing.

If those were 2 year progress pics at 22-24 then I would say no way but what you gotta remember is that lots of guys are late bloomers and do start really peaking on their natural test till 17-19.

So if you average out his test levels over 2 years natural he could have changed as dramitically naturally at this age as an adults average test value would change doing cycles for 2 years if you average the scores on cycle, during PCT and time off.

[lovbyts]

Remembering how much energy I had and how much time I spent in the gym from ages 17 - 22 if I had known anything in regards to diet I could have looked like that easily but hopefully with bigger arms, he is small.

He is mostly just cut really well with a little muscle mass. Not hard to do naturally especially at that age. Even if it's not nattay it's still 90% hard core work.

[gearbox]

Remembering how much energy I had and how much time I spent in the gym from ages 17 - 22 if I had known anything in regards to diet I could have looked like that easily but hopefully with bigger arms, he is small.

He is mostly just cut really well with a little muscle mass. Not hard to do naturally especially at that age. Even if it's not nattay it's still 90% hard core work.

i agree. I think overall he is very small to not be natty. I am not taking anything anyway from him, cause his diet has to be spot on. he is very cut. I have a nephew who looks similar to this at 16 and low low body fat.
again great work no doubt!

[C-BuZz]

yep your right, my bad...he is a kiwi. So Aussies still have their work cut out to find the new Z. He would have fit the bill though.

Head down to my local gym & take your pick, there's about 50 new zyzz's there. All chest/broceps with toothpick legs.

[Razor]

Why do we do this
....who cares

[Squawks]

doubt it