BF% estimate...

[awol]

Hey all, wondering if i can get a guesstimate. Im guessing around 15-16%.

The 6 pack is proving hard to come through, but my obliques are reasonably developed.



Thanks

[fit2bOld]

15% is about right

[MickeyKnox]

Yup 15-16.

[t-gunz]

yeah its strange you have a V that you would see on guys with very low bf% but then still in mid teens.

keep at it though you will get there

[gbrice75]

yeah its strange you have a V that you would see on guys with very low bf% but then still in mid teens.

keep at it though you will get there

x2. I think you're leaner than 15 though... looks like just a bad pic to me. I'd put you around 13ish.

[awol]

Hi all, thanks for replies. The pic wasnt the greatest, ill try and get
A better one.

Do you think it will be possible to get down to 10% with aggressive dieting, say, by xmas?

[MR-FQ320]

Hi all, thanks for replies. The pic wasnt the greatest, ill try and get
A better one.

Do you think it will be possible to get down to 10% with aggressive dieting, say, by xmas?

3 weeks is going to be tough to do it naturally.

[awol]

Im on Clen & Yohimbine HCL. Unfortunately the clen is losing its effectiveness. Ill see
What happens and keep an update

[Tron3219]

Im on Clen & Yohimbine HCL. Unfortunately the clen is losing its effectiveness. Ill see
What happens and keep an update

Ketotifin will up regulate the beta receptors to make it effective again, look into it

-TroN

[Back In Black]

Hi all, thanks for replies. The pic wasnt the greatest, ill try and get
A better one.

Do you think it will be possible to get down to 10% with aggressive dieting, say, by xmas?

Not unless you are well under 15% now.

Youre a brave man using yohimbine HCL and clen at the same time. Why don't you alternate them? What dosages are you taking of each and when are taking them?

How much cardio are you doing?

What type of diet are you following?

[awol]

Ketotifin will up regulate the beta receptors to make it effective again, look into it

-TroN

Tron. Ketotifen is almost impossible to come by in Australia, and the pills are not available here. I bought 3 bottles of eye drops the other day. I could buy from the US but it could take weeks and Ill be in Thailand, dont want it to arrive whilst im not in the country. I read an article stating that Benadryl is an absolute waste of money, and is purely bro science. Do you agree with it?

Not unless you are well under 15% now.

Youre a brave man using yohimbine HCL and clen at the same time. Why don't you alternate them? What dosages are you taking of each and when are taking them?

How much cardio are you doing?

What type of diet are you following?

Im pretty stimulant resistant Stem, so taking 4mL of clen & 10mg of Y/HcL is not really a big deal for me. Usually take both at about 6am fasted.

I generally do about 3-4 sessions of treadmill HIIT per week, lasting about 20-25mins. 30 second sprints at 19km/h followed by 55 seconds rest. 1 full body weight session per week also.

Diet:

Morning - 2 poached eggs, 1 medium bowl of all bran with fat free milk, 1 double shot coffee, a few cooked mushrooms

Snack - Double shot late & a sandwich

Lunch - Usually a serving of lean meat, salad & steamed veggies

Snack - can of tuna & a small tin of four bean mix

Dinner - Lean meat, salad & steamed veggies.


I really dont have the means to weigh my portions guys. I am in them military and I eat in the mess 3 times daily, so counting calories simply isnt an option for me.

[Back In Black]

Have to say, if you can't count cals it'll be nigh on impossible to hit 10% by Christmas.

4ml of clen ? How many mcg per ml and how many doses per day?

[awol]

40mcg per mL. So 160mcg per day, once a day.

[Back In Black]

If I were you I'd be inclined to take them seperately. Take clen first thing and then 30 mins before your HIIT take your yohimbine HCL (add 200mg caffeine if you can). If your HIIT is early doors then just move the clen to afterwards.

If you can't find anything to up-regulate your beta 2 receptors then stay on clen for no more than 2 weeks and then 2 weeks off. When you go back on there'd be no real need to taper back up to your effective dose.

[martymcfly85]

I say 13%. but who am i?

[t-gunz]

clen and yom together isnt ideal mate.

alternate as stem said.

and 160mcg is too high. you really dont need that much. start on low like 40mcg and ramp it slight every few days if you wish.

you need a strict diet to get to it your 10% but can be done.

what will be hard over the fesitive season with partys and shit food all over the place.

[Tron3219]

Look into intermittent fasting. I'm not taking anything like that, it's easier then eating 6-8 meals a day and I'm dropping bf like a mad man

But yeah, yohembine hcl is an alpha 2 receptor antagonist and clen is an alpha 2 agonist. So they work against each other. Ur heart has a2 receptors and will skyrocket ur bp. If take yohembine first thing in the morning in a fasted state and about 4 hours later begin ur clen. Keep am eye on ur bp tho

-TroN

[awol]

Hi t-gunz.

What would be an example of a strict diet? Low Calorie? Eating my BMR? No/Lo carbs?

Why is yom & clen not ideal? Is it an ineffective mix?

[Tron3219]

Look into intermittent fasting. I'm not taking anything like that, it's easier then eating 6-8 meals a day and I'm dropping bf like a mad man

But yeah, yohembine hcl is an alpha 2 receptor antagonist and clen is an alpha 2 agonist. So they work against each other. Ur heart has a2 receptors and will skyrocket ur bp. If take yohembine first thing in the morning in a fasted state and about 4 hours later begin ur clen. Keep am eye on ur bp tho

-TroN

Also you can take keto for the b2 receptor up regulation which will help with the effectiveness of the clen on fat loss. And u can ramp up to about 80mcg and b like u were taking 100-120mcg without keto

-TroN

[Tron3219]

....but I think u should get there with diet, using aids like that to get the last few pounds off because the less fat u have, the more ur body does to protect it

-TroN

[awol]

I dont necesarily have to get to 10%, I just want my 6 pack to show....lol.

Checked my BP 2 days ago with the medics, all was fine.

As for the intermittent fasting, would skipping an entire meal be ok? As in, breakfast or lunch? LEaving only 2 full meals per day? Wouldnt that slow down my metabolism to a point where fat loss would be impossible?

[Tron3219]

I dont necesarily have to get to 10%, I just want my 6 pack to show....lol.

Checked my BP 2 days ago with the medics, all was fine.

As for the intermittent fasting, would skipping an entire meal be ok? As in, breakfast or lunch? LEaving only 2 full meals per day? Wouldnt that slow down my metabolism to a point where fat loss would be impossible?

U fast for 16 hours and have an 8 hour feed window. Do some research on it, it's working amazing for me

-TroN

[t-gunz]

Hi t-gunz.

What would be an example of a strict diet? Low Calorie? Eating my BMR? No/Lo carbs?

Why is yom & clen not ideal? Is it an ineffective mix?

tron stated perfectly about clen and yom. its too much strain on the heart. pick one if any.

a strict diet means you count cals, working off your BMR/TDEE, low and high carbs will vary there are plent of diets, keto, carb cycling, and IF what tron also mentioned. out of all i suggest IF as well. i did it for a short peroid of time but the results were quick


jump in the nutrition section boys have made some good stickys for you too read then you can post your diet there. and get assistance. dont ask for a diet cause there not going to do the work for you. if you want that done hire a trainer

[JayIsPumped]

12 i think