Hello

[Choon]

Just wanted to say hi to everyone.


Not sure if this is how it works but I have a question for all you guys. I have done many cycles in the past but most recently I started Tren 100 EOD. I'm not stacking it with nothing else at the moment but my question is should I be taking nolvadex even though Tren does not aromatize?

Your help is greatly appreciated

[ChuckLee]

Welcome aboard.
Yours is not one of the safest cycle, you'd have to indroduce some test in, because tren alone is quite suppressive on your natural HPTA function and you could have some bad issues.
BTW, what are your stats? Age? Cycle experience?

CL

[Choon]

Welcome aboard.
Yours is not one of the safest cycle, you'd have to introduce some test in, because tren alone is quite suppressive on your natural HPTA function and you could have some bad issues.
BTW, what are your stats? Age? Cycle experience?

CL

I'm 28 this would be my fourth cycle in four years. I do a cycle once a year. I heard nothing but good things about Tren so thought I'd try it out. Excuse me for not knowing what "HPTA" stands for. Im new the to the message board.

[shifty_git]

Welcome!

Like Chuck says, you need some test in there.

[Choon]

Welcome!

Like Chuck says, you need some test in there.

Why is that? what happens if I don't take any test?

[shifty_git]

You run the risk of saying goodbye to erections and sense of well being for starters.

[Choon]

You run the risk of saying goodbye to erections and sense of well being for starters.

Oh wow! I take it as tren has the same effect as getting "DECA DICK"?

[shifty_git]

Oh wow! I take it as tren has the same effect as getting "DECA DICK"?

Yep.

Both deca and tren are part of the 19nor group.

Should realistically be called '19nor dick'

Check out the steroid profiles section here and read up on the compounds ya using.

[Choon]

Yep.

Both deca and tren are part of the 19nor group.

Should realistically be called '19nor dick'

Check out the steroid profiles section here and read up on the compounds ya using.

well, do you know if I need to be taking nolvadex while taking TREN?

[shifty_git]

well, do you know if I need to be taking nolvadex while taking TREN?

Not flaming ya bro, but sounds like ya need to do a lot more research b4 carrying on ya cycle.

Nolva is one of the last things you want to take with Tren .

Nolva with 19nors majorly increases the chance of prog related gyno, so def dont take it.

[Choon]

Not flaming ya bro, but sounds like ya need to do a lot more research b4 carrying on ya cycle.

Nolva is one of the last things you want to take with Tren .

Nolva with 19nors majorly increases the chance of prog related gyno, so def dont take it.

Thanks for your input. All I've been doing is reading and trying to learn. Whats the best test out the as far the least amount of aromatizing and and water retention?

[ChuckLee]

Add some prop in along with the tren , a minimum of 75ng EOD or 50mg ED

CL

[Choon]

Add some prop in along with the tren , a minimum of 75ng EOD or 50mg ED

CL

while taking that should I be taking any anti-estrogen pills?

[shifty_git]

Thanks for your input. All I've been doing is reading and trying to learn. Whats the best test out the as far the least amount of aromatizing and and water retention?

Check out this thread
Anthony Roberts New Article on Esters...

As ya using tren a ya want a quick acting test, so test prop.

Get some asap and add it to ya cycle.

[shifty_git]

Whats ya other stats?

[Choon]

Whats ya other stats?

not sure what that means?

waist size, chest size? etc?

[ChuckLee]

weight, height, bodyfat%

[Choon]

weight, height, bodyfat%

sorry man new to this game

6'3 220 12%

I have that fat around the stomach that hard as hell to get rid of and its really not that bad its just the last of it is extremely hard to lose. any suggestions?

[shifty_git]

sorry man new to this game

6'3 220 12%

I have that fat around the stomach that hard as hell to get rid of and its really not that bad its just the last of it is extremely hard to lose. any suggestions?

Diet and cardio.

Check out the diet forum, loads of good advice.

[Choon]

Diet and cardio.

Check out the diet forum, loads of good advice.

what do you think is more important Diet or cardio?

[Choon]

Shift_git and Chuck lee I wanna thank you for all your input. Im off to bed.

[shifty_git]

what do you think is more important Diet or cardio?

Both.

Come on man, 4 cycles and ya asking this?

[Choon]

Both.

Come on man, 4 cycles and ya asking this?

Well, I think that diet is more important then cardio.

[firmechicano831]

I think diet and cardio is important.

[mastertech]

welcome

[Choon]

Both.

Come on man, 4 cycles and ya asking this?

on tren and taking prop with it.shit is unreal. second week and Ive noticed and change in size and in strength. Im gonna stay on till the end of may then switch over to cyp and winny.

[shifty_git]

on tren and taking prop with it.shit is unreal. second week and Ive noticed and change in size and in strength. Im gonna stay on till the end of may then switch over to cyp and winny.

How long you running each compound? And why switch over to cyp?

[Choon]

How long you running each compound? And why switch over to cyp?

eight weeks each. many people have told me that you wanna switch so its throw off your receptors. bad idea or pointless?

[shifty_git]

pointless.

8 Weeks of Test P and Tren A is enough.

[Peducho0113]

Also check your diet and do lots of Cardio and you should be on your way bro

[Choon]

Also check your diet and do lots of Cardio and you should be on your way bro

thanks bro.its crazy how much stronger and bigger I have gotten in just three weeks. I love it!

[firmechicano831]

welcome bro!

[SaSqUaDgE]

Welcome

[tbaylight26]

welcome