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08-25-2006, 04:31 PM #1
Iraq Sniper Dedicates 9 Bullets To Bush
Warning: you have to sign up for an account and verify your 18 to view it because It contains footage of people getting sniped.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WODJEh0wWWMLast edited by Joey2ness; 08-25-2006 at 04:34 PM.
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08-29-2006, 03:00 AM #2
Hey Bajan maybe we should try to be nice and go talk to then ha? I mean it would be politcally incorrect if we acted like I suggested right?? I mean we gotta play by the rules, righ????? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArNPK...related&search=
This is war, our purpose is to win it, as fast and as effective(little casualty on our side, cost, etc..) as possible and let them know not to FVCK with us....Last edited by IronFreakX; 08-29-2006 at 03:34 AM.
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08-29-2006, 03:40 AM #3Originally Posted by IronFreakX
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08-29-2006, 04:15 AM #4Originally Posted by scriptfactory
When was the last major op?? or even minor?? not only do these help but they also raise the morale of the troops...
What about motivation? drive?? rotating the troops?? having the officers go in there and experience 1st hand to know how to command better and hey ur afraid of getting shot? dont salute and dress like a grunt aint that hard to figure out is it??
We are lacking big time, fallen behind, this pisses me off big time and everytime I saw one soldier get sniped it made me angry, we need to act and act fast, there are still areas not secured, still lots of terrorists, lots of IEDS, I dont even know where to start, but I do know that things deff need to change on our side and soonLast edited by IronFreakX; 08-29-2006 at 04:16 AM. Reason: IronFreakX ROX BITCH!!!!! mwuahahahah
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08-29-2006, 11:54 AM #5
Ironfreak,are you now or have you ever been a soldier? Just curious.By the way I was a soldier in the British Army for over 20 years and I served in Iraq and went back and worked there as a private contractor.
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08-29-2006, 12:13 PM #6Originally Posted by breacherup
Hes going to sign up.
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08-29-2006, 12:26 PM #7
so all his theories about what "we" should be doing in Iraq and what is going on there are those of someone who hasn't yet fired a shot in anger? I'm all for the free exchange of ideas but there are times when a person's lack of experience makes them woefully unqualified to offer commentary.
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08-29-2006, 12:35 PM #8Originally Posted by breacherup
Bouncer used to make the same bullshit "your not a soldier so you shoudnt have an opinion" type argument..
horse hockey.
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08-29-2006, 12:57 PM #9Originally Posted by roidattack
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08-29-2006, 12:58 PM #10VET Retired
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Originally Posted by IronFreakX
All the things you listed need boots on the ground which unfortunately the U.S don't have at the moment.
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08-29-2006, 01:26 PM #11Originally Posted by breacherup
Fine steroidologist
Whats your opinion, other than to rag on Iron?
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08-29-2006, 02:08 PM #12
I'm very surprised there are not more Urban Warfare Special Forces in Iraq. I am not a marine nor have I ever been, but I do have friends in Iraq and Afghanistan. The biggest complaint they have is there are a ton of them over there, but they are all isolated.
They NEED to be there simply to have the numbers, but the terrorists and insurgents are so scattered and unorganized that we simply do not have the manpower needed to deter them everywhere.
We need more snipers, more counter-terrorism, and more intel. Keeping 10,000 marines in Baghdad just to have them there does not make much sense, but I guess it is necessary to protect what stabilization we have over there already.
Just my 2c's.
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08-29-2006, 02:19 PM #13
Whats your opinion, other than to rag on Iron?[/QUOTE]
It was never my intention to rag on Iron or anyone else, I asked a question of him, which you took it upon yourself to answer and here we are.
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08-29-2006, 02:27 PM #14Originally Posted by breacherup
So you have no opinion? You just flashing your resume?
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08-29-2006, 03:14 PM #15Originally Posted by roidattack
So you have no opinion? You just flashing your resume?[/QUOTE]
Yes, just flashing my resume, because I really care what YOU think of me.
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08-29-2006, 03:57 PM #16Originally Posted by breacherup
Do I detect a hint of sarcasm?
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Oh and fuck the insurgents and their 'Juba' propaganda video. They take separate clips of their 'snipers' shooting soldiers and say its one person, their brave ‘Juba’. Please.
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08-29-2006, 05:54 PM #18
wow that video made me sick...
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08-30-2006, 02:05 AM #19Originally Posted by breacherup
I dont want to quote each individual post of yours so Ill say this:
I might have no experience so far, but I do believe my opinion or ideas count for something, let's put aside the assumption that if someone is a steroid user than he MUST know about steroids .
Example 1: Mike 22 yrs old, 3 cycles under his belt, no pct, dbol only cycle with deca , horrid diet, drinks while on cycle, parites no dedication.
IFX, 19, no cycles, good diet, dedication, knows basic steroid knowledge, pct, certain age, etc.....
You'd listen to "Mike" simply because he has used steroids?? that doesnt make any sense now does it??
Or when Napolean and other great military leaders who were younger, less experienced had won wars and conquered more in these few years than generals have because of their attitude, drive, motivation, tactics, etc......
Might not look like much, but if you read alot about military history, some of the greatest(IMO) and good in authors opinions had NO military experience whatsoever, NONE.
So back to the original topic, does my opinion matter or is it even valid? yes I think it is, how is compared to a soldier in combat, valid but (and Ill admit this myself) I wouldnt consider it over a civilians opinion, I am well read and if the only thing that will qualify me to answer this as you have implied is shooting/stabbing someone in anger then I qualify.
But guess what, thats not it IMO, I have no problem with killing someone, its not that but rather 1st hand experience, knoweldge and intelligence in that matter IMO.
Since My opinions should be disregarded as you say.....we'll continue arguing when I get out then....
And I still would like to hear your opinion about this issue as you still havent offered one, you just said my opinion should just be disregarded.Last edited by IronFreakX; 08-30-2006 at 02:50 AM.
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08-30-2006, 02:13 AM #20Originally Posted by BajanBastard
No, not boots, better tactics.
Ill explain this more in the next reply anway.
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08-30-2006, 02:31 AM #21Originally Posted by Phreak101
Almost close to what I want to say.
A better trained militia and smaller in numbers in this situation would be more beneficial than keeping all these troops.
Normally an enemy would be scared of numbers, but we have to understand who the enemy is, how they think, what their tactics are.
They are motivated, have a cause and are not afraid to die, we do not have these advatanges, our cause is weak now, we are not motivated and we have way too many ways to back out which psychologically is not good.
Smaller armies, forces, throught the history have won wars facing armies with more money, more troops etc.....
Am I saying we send out 100 men against 100,000? no ofcourse not.
but Im saying a motivated, better trained, ready to die force smaller force is more effective(again in this case as it has to be evaluted on a case by case basis)
This has been done before and Ill say this from experience, not ANYWHERE close to war but Ive been in alot of fights, one fight we were about 100 if not more, wayy more than the people we were fighting, in this fight, because they showed aggression and skill only four of us were left against almost 20.
I almost lost my life there in this particular fight and this was an example for me when I looked back, that its not the numbers that count, but how you use these numbers, how you fight, how you display yourself, what your tactics are and are they set in stone which is erroneous or are they flexible and shaping towards the situation you are facing? keeping in mind what was proven to work, but still not be blinded by your last victory.
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08-30-2006, 02:44 AM #22Originally Posted by BajanBastard
That video is personal and anything personal in war is NOT good most of the times, make it personal and you spread hate yes, but also fear, make it impersonal and you spread motivation.
Their tactics are improving like I said before, building legends, myths, people always need an idol, a figure to look up to, to follow and for alot of youths that appeals to them, for alot of us it instills hate, but also fear of death and that hurts us BIG TIME.
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08-30-2006, 04:29 AM #23Originally Posted by IronFreakX
I actually think that the US is doing a great many things correctly in Iraq.The most important mission being the training of Iraqi Army and Police Units.
In battling insurgents your strengths can quickly become your weaknesses.
People talk a great deal about the need for more troops, but the bigger your force the more soft spots you have. For every Infantry, EOD, Ranger, SEAL, Special Forces A Team outside the wire you have several people working to feed, fuel and inform the operators. These people and their supply lines are vulnerable-the enemy doesn't care who they kill.
Every time you mount an operation you are making new enemies, people do not like their doors kicked in.
So it is a trade off, you need to take out the bad guys with as little collateral damage as possible, and use Iraqi forces as the "face" of the operation as soon as they are ready.
Your home work for this week is to watch Bloody Sunday and the Battle of Algiers, and start reading the Seven Pillars of Wisdom and Learning to Eat Soup With a Knife.
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Originally Posted by IronFreakX
Just testing the limits of that hot head of yours.
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Originally Posted by breacherup
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09-02-2006, 05:53 PM #26Originally Posted by giantulua
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Originally Posted by scriptfactory
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09-02-2006, 05:59 PM #28Originally Posted by BajanBastard
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09-02-2006, 06:16 PM #29Originally Posted by giantulua
Thanks for judging me. All US citizens do not think alike. This is what the rest of the world has, for the most part, failed to understand.
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Originally Posted by giantulua
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09-03-2006, 01:35 AM #31Originally Posted by giantulua
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09-03-2006, 01:38 AM #32Originally Posted by BajanBastard
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09-03-2006, 06:00 AM #33Originally Posted by scriptfactory
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09-03-2006, 12:31 PM #34Originally Posted by IDF-BULLDOZER
Actually the logic is flawed. You have many people in the military that disagree with what to do..so who do you decide whos right? Also, if soldiers are the ones who are always right, why dont we pick our presidents straight from the military ranks?
The above post of yours is very childish. Im certainly glad your not the one making the decisions.
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