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    U.S.Troops-Iraq: 72% Say End War in 2006

    http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle12103.htm

    Bush never mentions when he accuses people like Murtha for abandoning the troops or whatever that most of them want out, in fact they wanted already out by now!

    the media doesn't mention it either..they try to make you think that military people like bush

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliteforce
    http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle12103.htm

    Bush never mentions when he accuses people like Murtha for abandoning the troops or whatever that most of them want out, in fact they wanted already out by now!

    the media doesn't mention it either..they try to make you think that military people like bush
    Not just Le Moyne College, it was Le Moyne College’s Center for Peace and Global Studies.
    Do not post this ultra-liberal propaganda here. Perhaps everyone is not aware of this organization, but I am. Here is their link page on the front page of the website. www.informationclearinghouse.iguide.com

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    Polls are used as news these days. Pay attention to who the military votes for in every single election. Why do you think the dems tried to block the military ballots coming in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliteforce
    http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle12103.htm

    Bush never mentions when he accuses people like Murtha for abandoning the troops or whatever that most of them want out, in fact they wanted already out by now!

    the media doesn't mention it either..they try to make you think that military people like bush
    The media does not report this because it also shows that soldiers in Iraq have a bad perception of Americans who oppose this war. Here is the rest of the poll: BTW, this poll was taken 2/28/06.
    The troops have drawn different conclusions about fellow citizens back home. Asked why they think some Americans favor rapid U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq, 37% of troops serving there said those Americans are unpatriotic, while 20% believe people back home don’t believe a continued occupation will work. Another 16% said they believe those favoring a quick withdrawal do so because they oppose the use of the military in a pre-emptive war, while 15% said they do not believe those Americans understand the need for the U.S. troops in Iraq.

    While 85% said the U.S. mission is mainly “to retaliate for Saddam’s role in the 9-11 attacks,” 77% said they also believe the main or a major reason for the war was “to stop Saddam from protecting al Qaeda in Iraq.”

    “Ninety-three percent said that removing weapons of mass destruction is not a reason for U.S. troops being there,” said Pollster John Zogby, President and CEO of Zogby International. “Instead, that initial rationale went by the wayside and, in the minds of 68% of the troops, the real mission became to remove Saddam Hussein.” Just 24% said that “establishing a democracy that can be a model for the Arab World" was the main or a major reason for the war. Only small percentages see the mission there as securing oil supplies (11%) or to provide long-term bases for US troops in the region (6%).

    The continuing insurgent attacks have not turned U.S. troops against the Iraqi population, the survey shows. More than 80% said they did not hold a negative view of Iraqis because of those attacks. About two in five see the insurgency as being comprised of discontented Sunnis with very few non-Iraqi helpers. “There appears to be confusion on this,” Zogby said. But, he noted, less than a third think that if non-Iraqi terrorists could be prevented from crossing the border into Iraq, the insurgency would end. A majority of troops (53%) said the U.S. should double both the number of troops and bombing missions in order to control the insurgency.

    The survey shows that most U.S. military personnel in-country have a clear sense of right and wrong when it comes to using banned weapons against the enemy, and in interrogation of prisoners. Four in five said they oppose the use of such internationally banned weapons as napalm and white phosphorous. And, even as more photos of prisoner abuse in Iraq surface around the world, 55% said it is not appropriate or standard military conduct to use harsh and threatening methods against insurgent prisoners in order to gain information of military value.

    Three quarters of the troops had served multiple tours and had a longer exposure to the conflict: 26% were on their first tour of duty, 45% were on their second tour, and 29% were in Iraq for a third time or more.

    A majority of the troops serving in Iraq said they were satisfied with the war provisions from Washington. Just 30% of troops said they think the Department of Defense has failed to provide adequate troop protections, such as body armor, munitions, and armor plating for vehicles like HumVees. Only 35% said basic civil infrastructure in Iraq, including roads, electricity, water service, and health care, has not improved over the past year. Three of every four were male respondents, with 63% under the age of 30.

    The survey included 944 military respondents interviewed at several undisclosed locations throughout Iraq. The names of the specific locations and specific personnel who conducted the survey are being withheld for security purposes. Surveys were conducted face-to-face using random sampling techniques. The margin of error for the survey, conducted Jan. 18 through Feb. 14, 2006, is +/- 3.3 percentage points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan
    While 85% said the U.S. mission is mainly “to retaliate for Saddam’s role in the 9-11 attacks,”
    Do I read this right in tha 85% of the troops in Iraq acctualy belive sadam was involved in 9/11?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    Do I read this right in tha 85% of the troops in Iraq acctualy belive sadam was involved in 9/11?
    I think that it reads they believe that Sadaam would be trying to aid al quieda after 9/11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    I think that it reads they believe that Sadaam would be trying to aid al quieda after 9/11.

    Why not? He was paying suicide bombers families

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    Why not? He was paying suicide bombers families
    100% correct. Funny how a little thing like that has been forgotten.....

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    reguarding post#2..Zogby is a reputable poll taker, their polls reguarding the elections/issues have been widly reported in the US media including Foxnews so cut the crap that this poll is somehow manufactured..not to mention that this poll was taken in Iraq on US bases, a very straitforward poll not fuzzy like calculating Iraqis killed in the war;why not just face the reality that most US military personell in Iraq want OUT! and then you always see these speeches given by Bush with US troops in the background on FoxNews/CNN/etc. like he has there full support when in fact the large majority of them reject his Iraq policy of open ended occupation of Iraq or 'staying until the job is done'

    as far as the money paid to suicide bombers, well so was Saudi Arabia..that is an issue for Israel-a repressive state..that has nothing to do with US homeland security-which is what the war is supposedly based on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliteforce
    reguarding post#2..Zogby is a reputable poll taker, their polls reguarding the elections/issues have been widly reported in the US media including Foxnews so cut the crap that this poll is somehow manufactured..not to mention that this poll was taken in Iraq on US bases, a very straitforward poll not fuzzy like calculating Iraqis killed in the war;why not just face the reality that most US military personell in Iraq want OUT! and then you always see these speeches given by Bush with US troops in the background on FoxNews/CNN/etc. like he has there full support when in fact the large majority of them reject his Iraq policy of open ended occupation of Iraq or 'staying until the job is done'

    as far as the money paid to suicide bombers, well so was Saudi Arabia..that is an issue for Israel-a repressive state..that has nothing to do with US homeland security-which is what the war is supposedly based on.
    This is why the media has not ran with a poll that is 9 months old. It can be manipulated in both directions. Sure, it says that so many want out of Iraq. But it also says that the Soldiers feel that those calling for immediate withdrawal are unpatriotic. Try spinning that on MSNBC.....

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