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    Leader Of Al Qaida Group In Iraq 'captured'...

    LEADER OF AL QAIDA GROUP IN IRAQ 'CAPTURED'...
    http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/03/09/D8NOSOP80.html
    BAGHDAD (AP) -- The leader of the al-Qaida-affiliated Islamic State of Iraq has been captured in a raid west of Baghdad, an Iraqi military spokesman said Friday.
    Abu Omar al-Baghdadi was captured Friday in a raid in Abu Ghraib on the western outskirts of Baghdad, said Brig. Gen. Qassim al-Moussawi, spokesman of the Baghdad security operation. U.S. officials had no confirmation of the capture.

    "One of the terrorists who was arrested with him confessed that the one in our hands is al-Baghdadi," al-Moussawi said.

    Al-Baghdadi has been identified in statements posted on Islamic extremist Web sites as the head of the Islamic State, which was proclaimed last year after the death of the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

    Al-Baghdadi was said to have headed the Mujahedeen Shura Council, an alliance of al-Qaida and other jihadist organizations, which was set up last year to downplay the role of foreigners in the Iraqi insurgency. The name first surfaced after al-Zarqawi's death, when the Mujahedeen Shura Council posted a condolence message on a militant Web site.

    "As for you the slaves of the cross (U.S.-led coalition forces), the grandsons of Ibn al-Alqami (Shiites), and every infidel of the Sunnis, we can't wait to sever your necks with our swords," the message read.

    It was signed by Abdullah bin Rashid al-Baghdadi, who was identified as the council leader.

    In a tape released last November, the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq called on Sunni Muslims to pledge their allegiance to a new state that militants have said they created in Iraq, and said al-Baghdadi was its ruler.

    "I vow allegiance to you," Abu Hamza al-Muhajir said in the tape. He addressed al-Baghdadi as the "ruler of believers" and placed al-Qaida in Iraq fighters under his command.

    On Friday, the Islamic State of Iraq announced it would soon release a video on the death of a U.S. Air Force pilot whose F-16 jet crashed Nov. 27 north of Baghdad, according to IntelCenter, which monitors insurgent Web sites.

    The pilot, Maj. Troy L. Gilbert, was listed officially as "whereabouts unknown" but then reported by the U.S. military as dead following DNA tests from remains at the scene. IntelCenter said it was unclear what the video would show.

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    Wow, there still are alot to capture, what about Binladen...no j/k logan, good where getting somewhere...This surge just may work for the man, good for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTBusta
    Wow, there still are alot to capture, what about Binladen...no j/k logan, good where getting somewhere...This surge just may work for the man, good for him.
    If we can work something out behind the scenes with Pakistan, bin laden may be a possibility. I honestly am in shock that he has not been captured or confirmed killed in 6 years, that is very disappointing. But honestly, the administration is not the only group who has forgot about him, many in the American public only bring it up to jab Bush. No one is yelling for his capture.......

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    Even if one were to capture Bin Laden or any other so called "leader", who would think it would make a tangible difference? As time has shown they are infinitly expendable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prada
    Even if one were to capture Bin Laden or any other so called "leader", who would think it would make a tangible difference? As time has shown they are infinitly expendable.
    Not in the war, but in the pursuit of justice, yes.

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    Was it a real leader? or just the next guy who wants to get attention and called himself a leader?
    It seems whenever these guys are doing damage to troops then Al-Qaida approves of them as members of the crew, but as soon as they screw up or get caught or killed then they say they never knew them!

    Whats with the arabic obsession with being the "leader" of anything they do? I have been in Arabia working many years and everybody wants to be manager or head of something, they sometimes create useless position names just so that people are always in-charge of something, i work in a department of 9 people and two of them are managers and four of them are heads, that leaves two actual employees and they are going to be given position names soon.

    If they are so into the cause then why cant they be normal members of the organization? I'm sure Al-Aida needs a tea-boy, a delivery man, i janitor, why does everyone have to be a leader of some sort?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Not in the war, but in the pursuit of justice, yes.
    Well then, we will be in pursuit of justice in perpetuity.

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    blah, so many "leaders" have been captured and nothing changes....

    everytime they catch some douchebag with an AK and a camel they just claim he's a leader, it sounds better for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prada
    Well then, we will be in pursuit of justice in perpetuity.
    Yes, We should always be pursuing justice.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
    blah, so many "leaders" have been captured and nothing changes....

    everytime they catch some douchebag with an AK and a camel they just claim he's a leader, it sounds better for them
    Not true. The leaders are well known, the problem is the long line of successors waiting to take there place.
    Personally I believe we need a different approach, one that will enlist the Iraqi people to wage there own battle of self defence and independence. I dont expect every Iraqi man to pick up a gun and go hunt some terrorists, but by working with the security forces, and the elected government to deny the terrorists all support, finance, and shelter.
    The cure must come from within the diseased body.

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    I agree, I think it would shut up all the dems and liberals who constantly use Binladen as their main steak in the heart of president Bush, it would bring 9/11 to justice atleast, the same as they did to Saddam. However that being said, I just have to agree that this "war on terror" so far has only given radical Islam a brighter more standing out calling card... are there any republicans who think the so called 600,000 Iraqis who died so far is absolutely disgusting? They weren't all terrorists,Im not going to say they were all mothers and babies, but many were..and for what?What have we achieved that has made it so worth it, will we beable to achieve anything there..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Yes, We should always be pursuing justice.........

    Hence the reciprocity should be true as well, as in we should let others pursue us when we kill innocent people based on false intelligence or even perhaps some fabrication. Right or is there always an exception to the rule?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prada
    Hence the reciprocity should be true as well, as in we should let others pursue us when we kill innocent people based on false intelligence or even perhaps some fabrication. Right or is there always an exception to the rule?

    very true prada...but I don't get it SPYWIZARD...isn't politics part of the news...I mean its what our major media outlets spend 75% of their time on. And there was no name calling in that other thread you closed. I wasn't calling Logan a loser, I was calling Ted Haggert a loser...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTBusta
    very true prada...but I don't get it SPYWIZARD...isn't politics part of the news...I mean its what our major media outlets spend 75% of their time on. And there was no name calling in that other thread you closed. I wasn't calling Logan a loser, I was calling Ted Haggert a loser...
    DT, in the past there were serious issues in the politcal forum as in death threats and so on. There was constant bickering and the forum was clogged with Pro-Palestinian versus Pro-Israelis, personel attacks and so. That forum was closed.
    Hence that is the reason that there is very little tolerance on personel remarks. Rule of thumb to follow: Attack the message and not the messenger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prada
    Hence the reciprocity should be true as well, as in we should let others pursue us when we kill innocent people based on false intelligence or even perhaps some fabrication. Right or is there always an exception to the rule?
    I suppose that the definition of "Justice" varies with each group's viewpoint, as does morality. But in my world, morality is as simple as black and white. Laws tend to cloud true justice.........

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    Bin Laden should have been captured by now....american military is too advanced to leave him walkin around

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