Iraq: teenage girl was stoned to death for loving a boy of a different religion

[Logan13]

Yes, but this happens with Christians in the US as well..............
Another example of what a fine culture exists over there.
Iraq: teenage girl was stoned to death for loving a boy of a different religion
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1811
05/04/07
A 17-year-old girl has been stoned to death in Iraq because she loved a teenage boy of the wrong religion.

As a horrifying video of the stoning went out on the Internet, the British arm of Amnesty International condemned the death of Du’a Khalil Aswad as "an abhorrent murder" and demanded that her killers be brought to justice.

Reports from Iraq said a local security force witnessed the incident, but did nothing to try to stop it. Now her boyfriend is in hiding in fear for his life.

Miss Aswad, a member of a minority Kurdish religious group called Yezidi, was condemned to death as an "honour killing" by other men in her family and hardline religious leaders because of her relationship with the Sunni Muslim boy.
They said she had shamed herself and her family when she failed to return home one night. Some reports suggested she had converted to Islam to be closer to her boyfriend.

Miss Aswad had taken shelter in the house of a Yezidi tribal leader in Bashika, a predominantly Kurdish town near the northern capital, Mosul.

A large crowd watched as eight or nine men stormed the house and dragged Miss Aswad into the street. There they hurled stones at her for half an hour until she was dead.

The stoning happened last month, but only came to light yesterday with the release of the Internet video.

It is feared her death has already triggered a retaliatory attack. Last week 23 Yezidi workmen were forced off a bus travelling from Mosulto Bashika by a group of Sunni gunmen and summarily shot dead.

An Amnesty International spokesman in London said they receive frequent reports of honour crimes from Iraq – particularly in the predominantly Kurdish north.

Most victims are women and girls who are considered by male relatives to have shamed their families by immoral behaviour.

Kurdish authorities have introduced reforms outlawing honour killings, but have failed to investigate them or prosecute suspects, added the Amnesty spokesman.

Kate Allen, the organisation’s UK director, said: "This young girl’s murder is truly abhorrent and her killers must be brought to justice.

"Unless the authorities respond vigorously to this and any other reports of crimes in the name of 'honour', we must fear for the future of women in Iraq."

[Flagg]

You wouldn't think it was the 21st century now.

[RA]

Thats really sad. Hard to believe some people are even human.

[singern]

Honor killings, which occur with shocking regularity in certain parts of the Middle East and South Asia, target women whose actions – actual or suspected – violate the honor of their family, an honor which is thought to ***end on the sexual purity of its female members. Anything from speaking with an unrelated man, to rumored pre-marital loss of virginity, to an extra-marital affair can be cause for an attack, often carried out by a father or brother. In some especially tragic instances, even women and girls who have been raped are slain to remove the stain from the family honor, and Perpetrators are seldom if ever punished.

Some have viewed honor killings as a logical extension of traditional Islamic gender practices, the natural consequence of system that enforces sex-segregation through veiling and female seclusion and harshly punishes violations of these boundaries. Others have argued that honor killings are the antithesis of Islamic morality.

[kfrost06]

I think "the stone age" is a term that applies here.

[singern]

I think "the stone age" is a term that applies here.

Pre Islamic middle east was the center of education, science, literature, and Mathematics. They have been in the stone age ever since, while the rest of the world evolved.

[gigem]

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[Lexed]

like a romeo and juilet gone bad

[RamyGras]

Honor killings, which occur with shocking regularity in certain parts of the Middle East and South Asia, target women whose actions – actual or suspected – violate the honor of their family, an honor which is thought to ***end on the sexual purity of its female members. Anything from speaking with an unrelated man, to rumored pre-marital loss of virginity, to an extra-marital affair can be cause for an attack, often carried out by a father or brother. In some especially tragic instances, even women and girls who have been raped are slain to remove the stain from the family honor, and Perpetrators are seldom if ever punished.

Some have viewed honor killings as a logical extension of traditional Islamic gender practices, the natural consequence of system that enforces sex-segregation through veiling and female seclusion and harshly punishes violations of these boundaries. Others have argued that honor killings are the antithesis of Islamic morality.

I don't understand. The boy was Muslim. The girl was Yazidi. The girl was killed by Yazidis and Muslims retaliated. How does this have to do with Islam being the "bad guys"?

[RamyGras]

And in the middle east, rape is highly frowned upon, and the punishment is much more severe than here in the United States. The punishment for rape is execution, whether you agree with that or not. This is fact, because I watched a man bite the bullet for commiting rape.

[singern]

And in the middle east, rape is highly frowned upon, and the punishment is much more severe than here in the United States. The punishment for rape is execution, whether you agree with that or not. This is fact, because I watched a man bite the bullet for commiting rape.

You are correct, however even in cases of rape the family is still regarded as dishonored, and as such the girl who was raped is worthy of killing.

[singern]

I don't understand. The boy was Muslim. The girl was Yazidi. The girl was killed by Yazidis and Muslims retaliated. How does this have to do with Islam being the "bad guys"?

My post was a background reference to "honor killings", Islam is only mentioned because it is a major player in cultures that support it, and not as the main point of discussion.

[RamyGras]

You are correct, however even in cases of rape the family is still regarded as dishonored, and as such the girl who was raped is worthy of killing.

I'm sure in some secluded boonie area this stuff takes place. But, you don't see family members killing their sisters/daughters, especially if they were raped. This is such a misconception that shouldn't be tolerated.

It seems to me that everybody wants to paint Arabs, in general, to be "stuck in the stone age", "killing their daughters", and plain murderers. And, I'm sure if you wanted to post sources of Arabs being animals, you can. But, if you wanted to, you could post sources of any race and any ethnicity being animals.

Based on 2006 figures, an average of 48 people were murdered TODAY in the U.S. Who commited these crimes? I hate to warn everybody, but murderers don't have a uniformed look. Those 48 people were murdered by civilians that roam the streets.

[gixxerboy1]

Good thing we liberated Iraq and now they have freedom

[Dude-Man]

Good thing we liberated Iraq and now they have freedom

Yeah, things are so much better there now for them...

[singern]

I'm sure in some secluded boonie area this stuff takes place. But, you don't see family members killing their sisters/daughters, especially if they were raped. This is such a misconception that shouldn't be tolerated.

It seems to me that everybody wants to paint Arabs, in general, to be "stuck in the stone age", "killing their daughters", and plain murderers. And, I'm sure if you wanted to post sources of Arabs being animals, you can. But, if you wanted to, you could post sources of any race and any ethnicity being animals.

Based on 2006 figures, an average of 48 people were murdered TODAY in the U.S. Who commited these crimes? I hate to warn everybody, but murderers don't have a uniformed look. Those 48 people were murdered by civilians that roam the streets.

I understand your desire to defend the defenseless, but you couldnt be more wrong, it happens, it happens in the city and in the village, it happens for rape and it happens when a girl falls in love with a boy without permission from the family, it happens for infidelity, and for pregnancy.......

Yes crimes happen all over the world, but murder is murder and I dont know of any other situation where a deliberate murder is justified and the killers go free of charge. Not only are they free of charge but the effected family is looked upon with respect by the community for having cleansed there name.

I can tell you that here in Israel the Arabs do this frequently, but are arrested , tried and sentenced accordingly by a rule of law.

[RamyGras]

I understand your desire to defend the defenseless, but you couldnt be more wrong, it happens, it happens in the city and in the village, it happens for rape and it happens when a girl falls in love with a boy without permission from the family, it happens for infidelity, and for pregnancy.......

Yes crimes happen all over the world, but murder is murder and I dont know of any other situation where a deliberate murder is justified and the killers go free of charge. Not only are they free of charge but the effected family is looked upon with respect by the community for having cleansed there name.

I can tell you that here in Israel the Arabs do this frequently, but are arrested , tried and sentenced accordingly by a rule of law.

If you say you've seen it, then what can I say? I live in Midwest U.S.A., I don't see everything you see. And, I do know that in the West Bank, they live a Deadwood style when it comes to governing. But, I also know that families avenge rape in brutal fashion, and these people get away with it.

However, on the bold comment, this is actually true. I defend those who have no voice in certain conversations. When I speak to those who have nothing but biased beef with Israel/US, I stand up and I show the other side. However, around here, it's the exact opposite. I have to sit and listen to illiterate people like gigem make outlandish and foolish comments. You're darn right I'm going to stand up and make a comment.

I am surrounded by Muslim families, and damn it if ANY of the men wear the pants in the family. It's such a crock when I hear that women are treated horribly and that they aren't allowed to do anything. The country that treats the women the worst are those darn Saudis. They have curfews, don't allow women to drive, and Jews are not allowed to open businesses. But, because they kiss American ass, nobody brings up their "hatred of freedom". If any country needs to be examined closely, it's this country. The home of 15 of the 19 WTC hijackers. The original home of Osama Bin Laden. But we have good business relations with them, and they are somewhat allies of Israel, so we let them slide. C'mon.

[singern]

If you say you've seen it, then what can I say?

However, on the bold comment, this is actually true. I defend those who have no voice in certain conversations. When I speak to those who have nothing but biased beef with Israel/US, I stand up and I show the other side. However, around here, it's the exact opposite. I have to sit and listen to illiterate people like gigem make outlandish and foolish comments. You're darn right I'm going to stand up and make a comment.
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When I say I see it, you must understand its on local news, both Arabic, and Israeli. I dont see drive by shootings in Chicago either, but we know it happens on a regular basis.

As to protecting and standing up for those who cannot, you have my respect, but remember that sometimes you may be surprised by the actual people you defend.

[RamyGras]

When I say I see it, you must understand its on local news, both Arabic, and Israeli. I dont see drive by shootings in Chicago either, but we know it happens on a regular basis.

As to protecting and standing up for those who cannot, you have my respect, but remember that sometimes you may be surprised by the actual people you defend.

That's what I meant.

And, I defend the basket of apples, I know some of the produce is rotten.

[RA]

Figures...a totally unrelated story to the war and someone still slips in a jab.

Good thing we liberated Iraq and now they have freedom