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05-06-2007, 08:08 PM #1
Message To America: 'you Can Count On France As A Friend'...
MESSAGE TO AMERICA: 'YOU CAN COUNT ON FRANCE AS A FRIEND'...
05/06/07
PARIS, France (CNN) -- Conservative Nicolas Sarkozy greeted news of his election Sunday to a five-year term as France's president with a vow to serve as a leader for all people of France.
"The president of the republic must love and respect all the French," he told cheering supporters at his campaign headquarters. "I will be the president of all the French people.
Sarkozy won with 53 percent of the vote in Sunday's presidential runoff, according to preliminary results issued by the French Interior Ministry. Socialist Segolene Royal took 47 percent of the vote.
"The French people have called for change. I will carry out that change, because that's the mandate I have received from the French people."
Sarkozy added that he wanted to tell his "American friends that they can rely on our friendship ... France will always be next to them when they need us."
But, he added, "Friends can think differently."
He then called on the United States "not to impede" in the fight against global warming. "On the contrary, they must lead this fight because humanity's fate is at stake here." (Watch Sarkozy's victory speech )
U.S. President George W. Bush called Sarkozy to congratulate him on his victory, a White House spokesman said in a written statement.
Sarkozy said he would also work to form a link between Europe and Africa. "We have to overcome hatred to give way to the great dreams of peace and civilization," he said. "It's time to build a great Mediterranean union."
Sarkozy said he would put in place an immigration policy "that is going to be controlled" and a development policy "that is going to be ambitious."
But he said that France would "stand next to" those who are persecuted by tyrants, dictatorships."
"We are going to write together a new page of our history. This page, my dear fellow citizens, I am sure it will be great."
Socialist Segolene Royal, a 53-year-old mother of four, acknowledged her defeat -- with 47 percent of the vote -- in a speech to supporters moments after the polls closed at 8 p.m. (2 p.m. ET).
"Keep the faith, keep intact your enthusiasm," she said at her party's headquarters. "I will keep on fighting the fight that we have started today." (Watch Royal's speech )
Sarkozy, a former interior minister, and Royal were in a run-off after emerging as the top candidates from the first round of voting on April 22.
Sarkozy will replace Jacques Chirac, a conservative who has been France's president since 1995. His election makes him the first French president born after World War II.
Voting was brisk. According to official figures, more than 75 percent of registered voters had been to the polls by 5 p.m. (11 a.m. ET).
Sarkozy voted in the affluent Paris suburb of Neuilly-sur-Seine where he lives, while Royal cast her vote in the western Poitou Charentes region, where she is regional president.
The campaign has been dominated by a debate over how to improve economic growth and reduce unemployment among the young, but its most explosive moments focused on immigration.
Appealing to right-wing voters, Sarkozy said France could not provide "a home for all the world's miseries."
On Friday, Royal said a Sarkozy presidency could trigger violence and brutalities in suburbs with high immigrant populations, prompting Sarkozy to condemn her "threatening comments."
CNN correspondent Hala Gorani reported extra security in some areas around Paris where police have previously clashed with youths of North African origin. There are no official figures on the number of North African immigrants and their French-born descendants in France. Unofficially, the number is estimated at between 3 and 6 million.
Prior to the election results being made public, Sen. Richard Lugar, an Indiana Republican, said a Sarkozy victory would be favorable to the United States.
"Clearly, his views are more in line with ours," Lugar told CNN's "Late Edition With Wolf Blitzer."
Sen. Charles Schumer, a New York Democrat, concurred: "I do. I do," he told CNN. "I mean, it would be nice to have someone who is head of France who doesn't almost have a knee-jerk reaction against the United States.
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05-06-2007, 08:17 PM #2
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05-06-2007, 10:42 PM #3
I think alot of people are wary of Sarkozy. He seems somewhat more power hungry and tougher then Chirac and definitly more then Segolene Royal. He is a right wing conservative afterall and somewhat praises America. So people have their doubts but he went on the platform of change to progress and that is what I believe captivated people attention. That and the fact that he was already well know in recent French politics
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05-07-2007, 11:46 AM #4
I hope Sarkozy will be able to convince the french to accept the EU constitution. I also hope he will be able to influence other EU leaders to look for nuclear power as a means to reach the EU emission cuts.
Royal simply suckes in debates, completely worthless.
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05-07-2007, 12:35 PM #5Originally Posted by Kärnfysikern
Sarkozy doesnt seem to necessarily like to reason with people, if he believes in something he will do it.
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05-07-2007, 12:46 PM #6
Sounds like a leader to me!
Actions speak much louder than word ,we will have to see what he does over the next year.
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05-07-2007, 04:40 PM #7Originally Posted by Prada
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05-07-2007, 11:20 PM #8Originally Posted by Logan13
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05-08-2007, 12:51 AM #9
Through out the history of the U.S. the french have screwed us (except one time), we bail their ass out of every war and they hate us... the world makes no sense to me!
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05-08-2007, 09:17 AM #10Originally Posted by Prada
Its true that the heavy lifting has always been left to conservatives.
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05-08-2007, 10:46 AM #11Originally Posted by roidattack
You have the choice, left leaning socialist in Selogene Royal or the rightwing conservative Nicolas Sarkozy who has explicitly stated he will deal with the issue. The same cannot be said about Royal.
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05-08-2007, 01:47 PM #12Originally Posted by Prada
lol, your backtracking a bit from your statement bro.
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05-08-2007, 02:04 PM #13Originally Posted by bigboy003
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05-08-2007, 04:02 PM #14
They would have been under nazi control if it wasnt for us....like i said they have helped us one time but that was only bc they hated england so much...
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05-08-2007, 05:00 PM #15Originally Posted by bigboy003Muscle Asylum Project Athlete
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05-08-2007, 05:43 PM #16
I'm not going to start a fued about the US and French relationship.... your right, if they woulnt have helped us out we wouldnt be here now so im done ragging on France...
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05-08-2007, 05:55 PM #17Originally Posted by Carlos_E
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05-08-2007, 10:29 PM #18Associate Member
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Carlos was proving a point that although the French haven't been supportive in our war in Iraq, they are not our enemy, and they are more than willing to help us when in need. He was trying to change the mentality of bigboy, and was very successful, it seems.
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05-08-2007, 11:05 PM #19Originally Posted by roidattack
I honestly am unable to comprehend what it is you are reffering to, please be less implicit so I can understand the meaning.
I am talking about Sarkozy.
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05-08-2007, 11:16 PM #20Originally Posted by Logan13
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05-09-2007, 07:40 AM #21Originally Posted by Hoggage_54
Yes, France has always been the pinnacle of virtuosity. (illegal dealings with Iraq behind us and un's back)
The local govt should have had those people out before the hurricane hit..no one at the Federal level is responsible for first response after something like that. But, then again, if you knew anything about it you would have had a better response to begin with.
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05-09-2007, 11:30 AM #22Originally Posted by Prada
But I know hardly anything about the two. Royal seems a bit to left for my taste though.
Is Sarkozy realy hostile towards imigrants or is that just something the lefts want to claim he is? Seems to me he has a genuine care for those in need but also will not accept people taking advantage of france?
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05-09-2007, 11:38 AM #23
If he can make the french accept the EU constitution Il love the dude. Its time for the european people to realise we will achieve alot more through EU than we will ever do nation by nation. His critisism towards a Turkey membership also seems reasonable. I have no problem with Turkey becoming member in the future though, but they have things they need to fix first.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5327488.stm
I like that he wants to push for the EU to be as self reliant as possible. Energy security needs to be ensured, especialy with Russia behaving as they are. EU can not go on beeing ***endent on Russian gas.
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05-09-2007, 11:41 AM #24Originally Posted by roidattack
Taken from the FEMA website:
http://www.fema.gov/about/index.shtm
FEMA Mission
DISASTER. It strikes anytime, anywhere. It takes many forms -- a hurricane, an earthquake, a tornado, a flood, a fire or a hazardous spill, an act of nature or an act of terrorism. It builds over days or weeks, or hits suddenly, without warning. Every year, millions of Americans face disaster, and its terrifying consequences.
On March 1, 2003, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) became part of the U.S. ***artment of Homeland Security (DHS). The primary mission of the Federal Emergency Management Agency is to reduce the loss of life and property and protect the Nation from all hazards, including natural disasters, acts of terrorism, and other man-made disasters, by leading and supporting the Nation in a risk-based, comprehensive emergency management system of preparedness, protection, response, recovery, and mitigation.
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05-09-2007, 12:46 PM #25
They are certainly for disaster relief, I dont dispute that...BUT, if your talking about people saving lives (which is normally within the 24-48 hours window following a disaster) that is not FEMA's job.
The local govt had a plan for evacuation. They had busses to evacuate the residence.
#1 Those busses never ran.
#2 Much of the population of New Orleans ignored the warning to evacuate.
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05-09-2007, 12:58 PM #26Originally Posted by Kärnfysikern
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05-09-2007, 04:29 PM #27Originally Posted by roidattack
You're absolutly right about the local government ****ing up too. I was trying to get more at how slow FEMA was to respond with their relief. It took 5 days before the first convoy of trucks arrived with food, while in Indoneisa following the tsunami, they recieved food within 2 days, and they are not exactly the richest of nations. I'm glad that Michael Brown guy resigned shortly after, he ****ed up pretty badly.
I think New Orleans re-elected the mayor who was mayor during the hurricane. I thought that was pretty sad.
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05-09-2007, 06:04 PM #28Originally Posted by RamyGras
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05-09-2007, 06:11 PM #29Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Logan13
Agreed. No governement in the world is rainbows and gumdrops.
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05-09-2007, 11:37 PM #30Originally Posted by Kärnfysikern
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05-10-2007, 08:57 AM #31
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do the french even have a army
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05-10-2007, 11:48 AM #32Senior Member
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Sarkozy supports the United States as a friend, but he has also said that it is the duty of a true friend to offer criticism and to disagree when you see your friend heading down the path to disaster.
The French were in Vietnam before we were. They have half a century's worth more experience than the United States does in fighting an unpopular and loosing battle of occupation half-way round the globe.
Remeber; the French were fighting the Nazis when many conservatives in isolationist America (conservatives who hated F.D.R. as a "Jew-loving commie") thought that we should ally ourseves with Hitler in a common war against Communist Russia.
The French, for all their indifference to America's imperial hegemony, have always been great lovers of Liberty. What perhaps angers many right-leaning Americans is that in France we are confronted with a successful, prosperous, and, well, pretty damned fun country that "doesn't speak English, and doesn't want to, neither."
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05-10-2007, 11:53 AM #33Senior Member
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AMERICAN CORPORATION
- You have two cows.
- You sell one, lease it back to yourself and do an IPO on the 2nd one.
- You force the two cows to produce the milk of four cows. You are surprised when one cow drops dead.
- You spin an announcement to the analysts stating you have downsized and are reducing expenses.
- Your stock goes up.
FRENCH CORPORATION
- You have two cows.
- You go on strike because you want three cows.
- You go to lunch and drink wine.
- Life is good.
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05-10-2007, 12:09 PM #34Originally Posted by BigLittleTim
^^^Your kidding right?
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05-10-2007, 12:45 PM #35Originally Posted by Lexed
Yeah but they always run in the same direction as the attackers.
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05-11-2007, 08:39 AM #36Senior Member
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Originally Posted by kfrost06
The United States was NOT eager to get into WWII. We had the experience of WWI fresh in our minds; a war which we watched for years before joining, and a war in which the United States got nothing in compensation during the division of spoils. Americans saw no gain in "pulling England's chestnuts out of the fire" for a second time in less than twenty years.
Hard to believe today, but America was once fiercely isolationist. The Monroe Doctrine stated our beliefs clearly: the powers of Europe had no business meddling in the affairs of the American Hemisphere, and in turn the United States didn't meddle in the affairs of the European empires.
The Republicans of the thirties HATED President Franklin Delano Roosevelt! His New Deal, Social Security, Workmen's Compensation, Minimum Wage, support of Labor Unions, etc. were regarded by American businessman as Communist plots which would drive a stake through the heart of America's laissez-faire Capitalist system. Many capitalists and industrialists saw fascist Germany as our natural ally in a war against world-wide Communism
On September 1, 1939, Germany invaded Poland, causing France and the United Kingdom to declare war. The United States remained NEUTRAL until the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor in December of 1941.
Of course you don't know this. Like all good (and bad) Americans, you know almost no history. "The United States of Amnesia", Gore Vidal calls us.
"Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it."
-George Santayana
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05-11-2007, 10:30 AM #37Originally Posted by BigLittleTim
Now, you claimed
"Remeber; the French were fighting the Nazis when many conservatives in isolationist America (conservatives who hated F.D.R. as a "Jew-loving commie") thought that we should ally ourseves with Hitler in a common war against Communist Russia.-BigLittleTim"
I thought that to be a ridiculous statement and still do, so please explain what battles the French launched against the Nazi's. Or name a battle that the French even put up resistance against the Nazi's.
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05-11-2007, 12:03 PM #38Originally Posted by BigLittleTim
Catch up on your history here:
http://www.answers.com/topic/battle-of-france
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05-11-2007, 02:03 PM #39Originally Posted by BigLittleTim
I cant figure why all of your posts contain anti-american rhetoric
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05-11-2007, 03:04 PM #40Originally Posted by roidattack
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