Wow, thats pretty sad! Fashion police on airplanes?

[Red Ketchup]

Jesus, is taliban ultra-conservatism taking over in the states?

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...-1m5braun.html

Southwest fashion police set no-fly zone



UNION-TRIBUNE

September 5, 2007

CRISSY PASCUAL / Union-Tribune
A Southwest employee asked Kyla Ebbert, wearing this outfit, to change or leave the plane.


As the mercury climbed over 100 on Labor Day, I called Southwest Airlines with a not entirely hypothetical question:

Could a young woman board a flight to Tucson today wearing a bikini top?

Angelique, the agent who took my call, assured me that a young woman could.

“We don't have a problem with it if she's covered up in all the right spots,” she said. “We don't have a dress code.”

Tell that to Kyla Ebbert, who was escorted off a Southwest Airlines flight two months ago for wearing an outfit far less revealing than a bikini top.

Ebbert, a Mesa College student and Hooters waitress, was allowed to stay on the plane, but only after she put up a fight and, she says, was lectured on how to dress properly.

I don't know about you, but one of my big gripes with the airlines is that they just don't take the time to dispense fashion advice any more.

Southwest explained its treatment of Ebbert in a letter to her mother, saying it could remove any passenger “whose clothing is lewd, obscene or patently offensive” to ensure the comfort of children and “adults with heightened sensitivities.”

Ebbert, 23, says she was judged unfairly by the airline and humiliated by the experience. Who wouldn't be?

She had a doctor's appointment that afternoon in Tucson, where temperatures had topped 106 all week. She arrived at Lindbergh Field wearing a white denim miniskirt, high-heel sandals, and a turquoise summer sweater over a tank top over a bra.

After the plane filled, and the flight attendants began their safety spiel, Ebbert was asked to step off the plane by a customer service supervisor, identified by the airline only as “Keith.”

They walked out onto the jet bridge, where Keith told Ebbert her clothing was inappropriate and asked her to change. She explained she was flying to Tucson for only a few hours and had brought no luggage.

“I asked him what part of my outfit was offensive,” she said. “The shirt? The skirt? And he said, 'The whole thing.' ”

Keith asked her to go home, change and take a later flight. She refused, citing her appointment. The plane was ready to leave, so Keith relented. He had her pull up her tank top a bit, pull down her skirt a bit, and return to her seat.

Ebbert says several flight attendants overheard the conversation and, after an embarrassing walk down the aisle, she took her seat and spread a blanket over her lap. She kept her composure until the plane landed, when she called her mother and broke down.

She took a photo of herself with her cell phone so her mother could see her clothes. That's when mom became livid.

“My daughter is young, tall, blond and beautiful,” Michele Ebbert told me, “and she is both envied and complimented on her appearance. She dresses provocatively, as do 99 percent of 23-year-old girls who can. But they were out of line.”

Who knows where the lines are drawn these days, particularly when it comes to dress? If you watch television, or visit the mall, or take in a game at Petco Park, you'll see women dressed in ways that, 50 years ago, were pornographic. Today they are stylish.

A Supreme Court justice famously could not define “obscene,” and declaring a thing “lewd” imputes motive. Did Kyla Ebbert intend to excite sexual desire on that flight to Tucson? I doubt it, just as I doubt that flight attendants are proper judges of such matters.

But neither am I. So when I arranged to see Ebbert in the notorious outfit, I brought along my fashion advisers, writer Nina Garin and photojournalist Crissy Pascual, who for years collaborated on a feature in this newspaper called “Seen on the Street.”

The three of us met Ebbert and her mother for lunch at Nordstrom Cafe. Ebbert, who is 5-foot-5 and has green eyes, is pretty enough to be a model.

Yet even wearing the clothes that scandalized Southwest, she did not attract attention beyond some lingering glances.

My fashion advisers were baffled, saying they saw nothing you don't see on a college campus or in Pacific Beach.

“I was expecting to be shocked, and I was shocked the other way,” Pascual told me.

“It wasn't a big deal,” Garin said. “Her skirt was a bit short, which was only accented by her heels. If she had been wearing flip-flops it wouldn't have mattered.”

Garin wondered if a jealous woman may have complained about Ebbert's outfit. I asked her what she would have said had she been on the plane.

“ 'I hope she's not sitting next to my husband,' ” Garin replied. “She's pretty. She wears her clothes well. But I wouldn't complain about it.”

Pascual detected sexism in the way Ebbert was treated, wondering if a man would have been asked to change clothes. Do men dress inappropriately? “I see butt cracks, a lot of butt cracks,” she said.

In its letter, Southwest said “there were concerns about the revealing nature of her outfit.”

I called Hollye Chacón, the Southwest customer relations representative who wrote the letter, to see if we were talking about the same outfit.

“What exactly was being revealed?” I asked.

She said yesterday she'd call back, but never did. That's pretty revealing in itself.

Red

[RA]

I wonder if you could see her second hairdo??

[Red Ketchup]

This is the outfit she was wearing...



I've seen worse at the local high school!

Red

[RA]

pict doesnt work

[godkilla]

i smell a lawsuit. what idiot would kick a woman off a plane for dressing like that. fracking ridiculous.

[Juggernaut]

Red, I know exactly why this happened!

Keith was gay.

[Red Ketchup]

pict doesnt work

Did you tru to click on the attachment? Seems to work here

[kfrost06]

Sounds like a bimbo to me, works at hooters and wearing a skirt so short they can see she has no panties on??? and why does a hooters girl have to fly to see a doctor? I know none of my business but I don't buy it plus I have never been on a plane thats been hot, it's always on the cool side. The problem is some people have no standards and expect others to disregard their standards too. I say no way, kick her off the plane and don't let her back on.

[Red Ketchup]

Red, I know exactly why this happened!

Keith was gay.

He he he!

Either that or he got a complaint from some doritos eating fat ugly cow who was jealous that this lady has awesome legs that go on forever!

Or maybe he's married to the fat ugly cow!

Red

[Juggernaut]

IF there were rules and they were printed for everyone to read and understand then I'd say the airlines has a leg to stand on...otherwise she was discriminated against.

[kfrost06]

o.k. I checked out the picture and it doesn't look too bad but the skirt is short and in the picture she has her hands covering her genital area so it's hard to say if that was showing or not. If she was pulling a Brittany Spears then boot her off if not then they went over board. Here's a link to the pic I saw, you be the judge.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont..._1m5braun.html

She definitely posed for this pic, her hair is covering her chest, and her hands are well placed. Her shirt and sweater look fine the only questionable thing would be, did she have underwear? how short is the skirt? move the hands and lets see.

[Carlos_E]

This is the outfit she was wearing...



I've seen worse at the local high school!

Red

She has a lot of money coming her way!

[taiboxa]

i'd do her.

[godkilla]

i'd do her.

would you do the new jenna ja****n to get to her?

[RA]

Personally, I wouldnt mind it but if I had my kids and her clam is saying hi then thats a no no.

[Red Ketchup]

Personally, I wouldnt mind it but if I had my kids and her clam is saying hi then thats a no no.

I agree, but nowhere in the newspaper article does it mention she wasn't wearing panties (and with todays sensationalistic media you can be 5000% sure they would have mentionned that little detail... in the title!!!).

Besides had she not been wearing panties, I have no doubt she would have been arrested for indecent exposure on the spot.

Red

[RA]

Then its bullshiat. If she had her girly parts covered I do smell a lawsuit. (she is getting some good exposure out of this-no pun intended)

I agree, but nowhere in the newspaper article does it mention she wasn't wearing panties (and with todays sensationalistic media you can be 5000% sure they would have mentionned that little detail... in the title!!!).

Besides had she not been wearing panties, I have no doubt she would have been arrested for indecent exposure on the spot.

Red

[Red Ketchup]

Well, she made it to CNN

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...mini.skirt.cnn

Standing up her outfit is even less "revealing"... I'm guessing this is gonna cost Southwest a pretty penny...

Red

[taiboxa]

yeah.. i'd definetly do her.

[gixxerboy1]

Sounds like a bimbo to me, works at hooters and wearing a skirt so short they can see she has no panties on??? and why does a hooters girl have to fly to see a doctor? I know none of my business but I don't buy it plus I have never been on a plane thats been hot, it's always on the cool side. The problem is some people have no standards and expect others to disregard their standards too. I say no way, kick her off the plane and don't let her back on.

I doesn't say anywhere she wasnt wearing underwear.

Also it says it was over 100 degrees that day. So know it might not be hot on the plane but as soon as you step off it was.

I dont see anything wrong with that outfit. I see girls dressed like that all the time

[gixxerboy1]

yeah.. i'd definetly do her.

She doesn't do fatties

[Red Ketchup]

I'mmmmm too sexy for your plane! too sexy for your plane! too sexy by far!



Red