Iranian president denied access to WTC site

[Johny-too-small]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20877717/

NEW YORK - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad asked permission to lay a wreath at the World Trade Center site when he comes to New York City next week, but the request was denied, a police official said Wednesday.

Ahmadinejad, who is arriving Sunday to address the United Nations General Assembly, had asked this month for permission to visit the site of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, police spokesman Paul Browne said.

The request to enter the fenced-in site was rejected because of ongoing construction there, Browne said.

"Requests for the Iranian president to visit the immediate area would also be opposed by the NYPD on security grounds," Browne said.

The U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Zalmay Khalilzad, told reporters Wednesday that the United States would not support Iran's attempt to use the site for a "photo op."

"Iran can demonstrate its seriousness about concern with regard to terrorism by taking concrete actions," such as dropping support for the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah and suspending its uranium enrichment program, Khalilzad said.

Request never received?
Browne said Ahmadinejad had asked permission from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the U.S. Secret Service and the police department. The police and the Secret Service provide security to visiting heads of state.

The Port Authority, which owns the trade center site and is the only agency that could grant him permission to go inside, said it never received such a request, contradicting the police statement.

"We have not been asked to accommodate the president of Iran," Port Authority spokesman Steve Coleman said.

It wasn't clear whether Ahmadinejad wanted to descend to the base of the trade center site, where the twin towers once stood, or lay a wreath on a public sidewalk outside the site.

Telephone calls to the Iranian Mission to the United Nations were not immediately returned.

Tense relationship
White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe said a visit to ground zero "is a matter for the city of New York, but it seems more than odd that the president of a country that is a state sponsor of terror would visit ground zero."

Iran and the U.S. have not had diplomatic relations since Washington cut its ties with Tehran after Iranian students stormed the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in 1979. The Bush administration has accused Iran of arming Shiite Muslim militants in Iraq and seeking to develop nuclear weapons.

In a television appearance earlier this week, Ahmadinejad said his country wanted peace and friendship with the United States, as tensions continued to mount between the two countries.

[kfrost06]

He's a terrorist and should not have access to the site of the deadliest terror site ever.

[Red Ketchup]

As Leno said last night:

"He wants to visit ground zero, maybe we should take ground zero to him"

I don't see why that idiot wants to go there anyways, it's provocation and nothing more... it's not like he cares ont iota about the victims.

Red

[Serotonin]

I was reading in my Evolutionary Biology book that the Earth is in the middle of it's 6th extinction. Maybe we're on the list.

[mcpeepants]

they should of let him visit. Iranian's held candle light villages for the victims of 9-11 and cooperated with us in Afghanistan until we called the "Axis of Evil". American politicians use 9-11 and ground zero for photo ops and politics all the time.

[Johny-too-small]

they should of let him visit. Iranian's held candle light villages for the victims of 9-11 and cooperated with us in Afghanistan until we called the "Axis of Evil". American politicians use 9-11 and ground zero for photo ops and politics all the time.

What a moronic statement. I think Iran could use a guy like you.

Do you live in a cloud where you experience life through a newspaper?

Obviously, you never went to ground zero after the towers collapsed and tried to find your buried brother.

[mcpeepants]

What a moronic statement. I think Iran could use a guy like you.

Do you live in a cloud where you experience life through a newspaper?

Obviously, you never went to ground zero after the towers collapsed and tried to find your buried brother.

Iran did not attack us on 9-11.

Why do people who parrot the white house's talking points dare question my intelligence? Being at ground zero doesn't give a person wisdom, just see Guiliani and Bush.

[Johny-too-small]

Iran did not attack us on 9-11.

Whats your point? Iran is our friend and welcome because he didnt attack us on 911?

Why do people who parrot the white house's talking points dare question my intelligence? Being at ground zero doesn't give a person wisdom, just see Guiliani and Bush

What are you talking about? How did I parrot the white house? How did I question your intelligence? What does wisdom have to do with visiting a place?

Quit making up things to try and argue about. It makes you look less intelligent.

[RA]

I cant believe you would go that far.

they should of let him visit. Iranian's held candle light villages for the victims of 9-11 and cooperated with us in Afghanistan until we called the "Axis of Evil". American politicians use 9-11 and ground zero for photo ops and politics all the time.

[mcpeepants]

Whats your point? Iran is our friend and welcome because he didnt attack us on 911?



What are you talking about? How did I parrot the white house? How did I question your intelligence? What does wisdom have to do with visiting a place?

Quit making up things to try and argue about. It makes you look less intelligent.

You said "What a moronic statement". That definitely sounds like your questioning my intelligence but if not my bad. So you saying what does wisdom have to do with it: well you stated that "Obviously, you never went to ground zero after the towers collapsed and tried to find your buried brother." Your saying that I'm lacking experience and knowledge (wisdom) to to make the connection between Ahmadinejad and 9-11 attacks even though there is no link.

So what's my point. I'll repost it for you

they should of let him visit. Iranian's held candle light villages for the victims of 9-11 and cooperated with us in Afghanistan until we called the "Axis of Evil". American politicians use 9-11 and ground zero for photo ops and politics all the time.

[mcpeepants]

I cant believe you would go that far.

what do you object to?

[RA]

Your 100% loyalty to a guy thats sending people over to Iraq to kill American soldiers. Not to mention the fact that Iran has sponsored terrorism for decades. It sounds like your 100% Iran 0% American.

what do you object to?

[Bigen12]

they should of let him visit. Iranian's held candle light villages for the victims of 9-11 and cooperated with us in Afghanistan until we called the "Axis of Evil". American politicians use 9-11 and ground zero for photo ops and politics all the time.

They cooperated as long as they feared that we would be knocking on their door next.

[Johny-too-small]

You said "What a moronic statement". That definitely sounds like your questioning my intelligence but if not my bad. So you saying what does wisdom have to do with it: well you stated that "Obviously, you never went to ground zero after the towers collapsed and tried to find your buried brother." Your saying that I'm lacking experience and knowledge (wisdom) to to make the connection between Ahmadinejad and 9-11 attacks even though there is no link.

So what's my point. I'll repost it for you

they should of let him visit. Iranian's held candle light villages for the victims of 9-11 and cooperated with us in Afghanistan until we called the "Axis of Evil". American politicians use 9-11 and ground zero for photo ops and politics all the time.

You should be ashamed that you have allowed your way of thinking to be so warped and dangerous....You do realize that here in America, that is if you are an "American," you are ideologically isolated?

I will hold candle light villages for you when you are suffering and under trial. I will point out to you how your family exploits your pain for their personal gain. They pretend to care, but only when others are watching. Then, as your friend, I will walk into your house in the middle of the day sit down with you and tell you I understand your grief. When you hug me goodbye, I will slide a knife into your back. You, my friend, would be easy to kill.

Have you listened to Ahmadinejad's speeches? He clearly wants to destroy America, and he is clearly pursuing his goals. How could you be so deaf to his own words that came out of his own mouth? I feel sorry for you, its really pathetic.

Did I tell you I have some land in Florida to sell you?

[mcpeepants]

Your 100% loyalty to a guy thats sending people over to Iraq to kill American soldiers. Not to mention the fact that Iran has sponsored terrorism for decades. It sounds like your 100% Iran 0% American.

Are you associating my use of objectivity and not blindly trusting everything the government says with being anti-American or a traitor?

The White House nor the military have proven that Iran is sending people to kill American soldiers. Iranian weapons as well as US weapons and Russian weapons have been used to kill US troops.

What is you opinion about US overthrowing the democratically elected prime minister of Iran back in 1953 and installing the brutal Shah?

What is your opinion about the US supporting Saddam when he attacked Iran back in the 80s and still supporting him after he used chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds and Iranian troops?

[mcpeepants]

They cooperated as long as they feared that we would be knocking on their door next.

There are many reasons for Iran to have cooperate:

1. They wanted better relations with the US (Pakistan and a couple of the Central Asian dictators and presidents for life did this after 9-11)

2. Shia Iran was an enemy of the Sunni fundamentalist Taliban and nearly went to war with them

3. Iran was probably afraid of being attacked and was in a very weak position while the US was at it's strongest

[Bigen12]

There are many reasons for Iran to have cooperate:

1. They wanted better relations with the US (Pakistan and a couple of the Central Asian dictators and presidents for life did this after 9-11)

2. Shia Iran was an enemy of the Sunni fundamentalist Taliban and nearly went to war with them

3. Iran was probably afraid of being attacked and was in a very weak position while the US was at it's strongest

I'm not sure about 1 and 2, however that wasn't exactly my point.

My point was that once there was political infighting in Washington over the war, it was obvious that the political claimant wasn't right for us to attack Iran. At that point Iran wasn't afraid of the US.

[RA]

Are you associating my use of objectivity and not blindly trusting everything the government says with being anti-American or a traitor?

The White House nor the military have proven that Iran is sending people to kill American soldiers. Iranian weapons as well as US weapons and Russian weapons have been used to kill US troops.

What is you opinion about US overthrowing the democratically elected prime minister of Iran back in 1953 and installing the brutal Shah?

What is your opinion about the US supporting Saddam when he attacked Iran back in the 80s and still supporting him after he used chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds and Iranian troops?

Heres the answer to your three questions...

absolutely

moot

moot

[Godson]

who cares

[mcpeepants]

I'm not sure about 1 and 2, however that wasn't exactly my point.

My point was that once there was political infighting in Washington over the war, it was obvious that the political claimant wasn't right for us to attack Iran. At that point Iran wasn't afraid of the US.

Even though there was some opposition to Bush on Iraq, there was way more support for it among politicians, the media, and the public. Had there been no insurgency, which it was obvious there would be, Bush would of probably attacked Iran. So Iran was rightly scared about being invaded and was willing to negotiate on Bush's terms. However, with the overthrow of Saddam, the Shia , who are natural allies of Iran, came to power and along with the insurgency, Iran no longer had to negotiate on Bush's terms.

[mcpeepants]

Heres the answer to your three questions...

absolutely

moot

moot

OK, so if Bush says giving amnesty to all illegal immigrants is good for the country and or makes policy you disagree with, then your a anti-american traitor.

Things don't happen in vacuums

[Bigen12]

Even though there was some opposition to Bush on Iraq, there was way more support for it among politicians, the media, and the public. Had there been no insurgency, which it was obvious there would be, Bush would of probably attacked Iran. So Iran was rightly scared about being invaded and was willing to negotiate on Bush's terms. However, with the overthrow of Saddam, the Shia , who are natural allies of Iran, came to power and along with the insurgency, Iran no longer had to negotiate on Bush's terms.

I think you just agreed with me?

[Red Ketchup]

I'm surprised that anyone would think that Ahmadinejad has any power at all in Iran...

Come on folks, iran is a religious state run by it's islamic council. The mullahs run everything and have the only real power. That moron Ahmadinejad is nothing more than a loud and excentric puppet figurehead, and a ridiculous one at that.

You want change in iran, stard getting rid of the mullahs...

Just my 2 cents...

Red

[STONES2]

[QUOTE=mcpeepants][B]

Iran did not attack us on 9-11.


Jeffery Dahner never ate any one in my family but due to his behavoir he is not allowed at my house.

2stones

[STONES2]

Besides, someone said that wreath he wanted to lay was for the martyers.

what a lau***ng stock we would be if we had let him do that, we do not need his sympathy.

2stones

[j4ever41]

I wish they would have let him go to ground zero with no security, maybe someone would have popped him a new azz hole between his eyes.

[mcpeepants]

I think you just agreed with me?

I'd say your agreeing with me more

[mcpeepants]

[QUOTE=STONES2]

[B]

Iran did not attack us on 9-11.


Jeffery Dahner never ate any one in my family but due to his behavoir he is not allowed at my house.

2stones

Apples to Oranges

[mcpeepants]

I wish they would have let him go to ground zero with no security, maybe someone would have popped him a new azz hole between his eyes.

He has nothing to do with 9-11. He's just been made the new boogie man by the white house, congress man, and the media.