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    Lawmaker Questions $318K for Turtle Crossing Fence

    Lawmaker Questions $318K for Turtle Crossing Fence
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    GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. — A congressman disputes the state's contention that it's worth $318,000 in federal money to keep turtles from becoming roadkill.

    Installation is expected to begin this week on a 2-mile-long fence along both sides of U.S. 31 in Muskegon, in west-central Michigan. It is intended to prevent hundreds of turtles, some of them protected species, from being killed as they migrate to nesting sites along the Muskegon River, which the highway crosses.

    Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., questions why the Michigan Department of Transportation did not consider using the money on other projects "more related to the movement of people and products."

    "Serious times require a serious approach to the very real problems Michigan faces," Hoekstra said in a news release issued Wednesday.

    The 4-foot-high chain-link fence has been planned for two years. State officials consider it a relatively inexpensive solution to a problem that affects traffic safety and the environment of rare turtle species.

    The fence will cover a stretch of road that is Michigan's deadliest for turtles and one of the nation's worst for the reptiles, Tim Judge, manager of a Transportation Department service center in Muskegon, said Thursday.

    Two state-protected species — the wood turtle and Blanding's turtle — are common traffic victims, as are snapper, painted, box and map turtles.

    Department spokeswoman Dawn Garner didn't know whether any drivers swerving to avoid turtles have gotten into crashes, but said: "There is definitely the potential for improving the safety of motorists."

    The barrier is being financed through the federal government's transportation-enhancement program. Money from the program must be used to improve the public's traveling experience but cannot be spent on building or repairing roads.

    Hoekstra, who has questioned the fence project since it was proposed, said the state should have petitioned federal officials to use the money for road construction.

    "The state has not requested greater flexibility in how to spend federal highway dollars, and Lansing bureaucrats need to begin to think more creatively in how they address our state's problems," he said.

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    I'll vote for the fence.

    If the gov't can afford $300 million a day for a damn stupid war, it's got enough for a fence to keep cars from running over turtles. At least the $$$ will save car repairs, and will give some schmucks a job for a little while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    I'll vote for the fence.

    If the gov't can afford $300 million a day for a damn stupid war, it's got enough for a fence to keep cars from running over turtles. At least the $$$ will save car repairs, and will give some schmucks a job for a little while.
    you must have some very big turtles where you live to cause car damage.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    you must have some very big turtles where you live to cause car damage.....
    35 to 70 lbs, here in Texas.
    http://www.texasturtles.org/Chelydra_serpentina.html

    And yes, running over one of these can definitely affect your exhaust or suspension system . . .

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    Certainly they are not that big in Michigan and our economy is in the toilet because of gov Granholm. Her idea is to tax tax tax more and more while we lose auto jobs by the thousands. If they would have elected someone like Devos who has a mind for business we could have turned this economy around by now.

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    I'd vote to put up the fence

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    but I don't see why it should cost even 10% of that estimate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhuman
    but I don't see why it should cost even 10% of that estimate

    Agree.
    Seems to me they could find a less expensive barrier, maybe something only 1 or 2 feet tall (turtles don't jump), maybe something out of heavy chicken wire.
    Whatever . . . If we were on the project, I'm sure we could come up with less expensive workable solutions.

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