Who thinks we should drill

[KingTenderloin]

Gas prices are ridiculous. Who wants to Drill Here Drill Now ?

[Kratos]

I do, but it doesn't solve the problem.

[g0dsend]

Ill be one of the first to get the Chevy Volt, so gas prices will not worry me as much. I decided not to get a luxury car and wait for the volt to save money.

[KingTenderloin]

yeah im thinking my next cars gonna be a hybrid

[rhino1]

yeah im thinking my next cars gonna be a hybrid

i have heard that the bateries in those cars are more detrimental to the environment than the exhaust from 1 vehicle for the entire life of that vehicle....

LOL pick your poison

but damn...gas is expensive....

I live close to work thank god...

[Tony Q]

The Volt is gonna cost $40,000... I can buy a used car for $5000. How long will it take to spend $35,000 on gas? Hybrids arent much better.. The cost outweighs the benefit... for now anyway....

[VWbug66]

i wouldnt go buy a hybrid now, in just a few years, they'll have one that's better..
plus you should never buy sumthing brand new, things are going to happen..wait till they get the kinks out and make it better- that's what happens..


yea we should drill, but it wont fix the prices immediatly, it'll take a few years till the crude they pull to be usuable.

[Kratos]

The Volt is gonna cost $40,000... I can buy a used car for $5000. How long will it take to spend $35,000 on gas? Hybrids arent much better.. The cost outweighs the benefit... for now anyway....

It's the first mass market car to use LIon bateries. Just the battery pack costs like 17grand, so that's one thing that makes the car so expensive. Yeah, it might not make sense for your wallet unless you were gonna spend that much on a car anyway. It is a positive step in driving down the cost of Lithium Ion batteries. Once they become cheap expect to see a lot of fully electric cars that get a minimum range of 200 miles per charge on the market.

[ghettoboyd]

i know drilling dosent solve the problem long term but i live in maine, my furnace runs 8 months of the year. i am looking at an $8000 oil bill for this comming winter. that scares the shit out of me.not only do i live in one of the most heavly taxed state but i have to deal with that as well.i know peeps r gonna say move but its not that easy when i have lived here 36 years.so drill away!!!!

[Kratos]

i know drilling dosent solve the problem long term but i live in maine, my furnace runs 8 months of the year. i am looking at an $8000 oil bill for this comming winter. that scares the shit out of me.not only do i live in one of the most heavly taxed state but i have to deal with that as well.i know peeps r gonna say move but its not that easy when i have lived here 36 years.so drill away!!!!

support nuclear power and renuable electricity
Oil should never have been used to heat homes in the first place. Electric is the fuel of the future for home heating. Lay down some more insulation in your attic. Look into what your paying now for electric and figure out if it would be cost effective to convert. I'm helping someone build a house right now...he wants oil heat but at the same time we're puting in wire for electric in case the price of fuel oil goes way up. It will go up even more despite drilling efforts, tough to say when though...might come down short term, might go up. 10 or 15 years down the line though it will go up, there is no doubt.

[ghettoboyd]

i agree kratos the future dosent look so good. i have a 7 year old and i feel for her and all the rest of the kids that have to clean up the mess that we have made.its to bad that we have to wait till were at the point of no return to decide that theres a problem.

[Tony Q]

How about Geo-Thermo heat systems? My neighbor spent $10,000 and it costs him $40 a month to heat his house... Anyone know more about this? I live out in the country and i am considering doing it also...

[spywizard]

cng will have it in my home and cars by winter..

$1.60 per gallon

[Kratos]

How about Geo-Thermo heat systems? My neighbor spent $10,000 and it costs him $40 a month to heat his house... Anyone know more about this? I live out in the country and i am considering doing it also...

It's one of the most efficent heating and cooling systems of the market. Basically a heat pump, for example like an a/c unit or fridge. Except unlike an air to air heat pump, you use the natural buffer of the ground which is always somewhere around the same temperature once you go down several feet. Think of turning an a/c unit backwards, that would be heating your house by an air to air heat pump. Spin it around the other way and you're cooling by the same heat pump. Most heat pump systems can be run as heating and cooling systems, uses that available heat in the winter and puts heat back into the ground in the summer. Air to air heat pumps are not efficent in colder climates because you are essentially trying to blow the cold off the refidgerant with cold air. I give geothermal a thumbs up.

[Kratos]

cng will have it in my home and cars by winter..

$1.60 per gallon

I use city natural gas to heat my home, it isn't all that cheep. I spend maybe 4 or 6 k a year on gas bill, includes hot water.

[SMCengineer]

^^I thought CNG stood for Compressed Natural Gas?

[spywizard]

^^I thought CNG stood for Compressed Natural Gas?

it does... there is a home unit that you purchase, wire it to your natural gas from your home, and wire the electrical..

and bam.. you refuel over night..

[Kratos]

it does... there is a home unit that you purchase, wire it to your natural gas from your home, and wire the electrical..

and bam.. you refuel over night..

It will save you more money than a hybid at the pump, as long as you can tolerate the difficulty finding a fueling station. I know they get a couple hundred miles range, so maybe refueling every night and using as a commuter car works for you. even as a natural gas user you have incentive to support nuclear power and renuable electricity...natural gas has actually been far less expensive than it is today. A little more than 20% of the electricity in the US is produced by burning natural gas - the quantity of gas consumed in power plants has increased by 30% since 2000. Lower the percentage of electric produced by natural gas and that's good for the price of natural gas. I'm worried what happens to the cost of heating my home if natural gas starts to catch on as a fuel for cars. What the price demand elasticity is for natural gas, idk. I know it can be made by other ways than drilling but that's obviously the cheepest way at this time. I'm very skeptical about a large number of cars converting to natural gas like T.Boone Pickins would like for his piggy bank.