5 month old jewish boy stoned by Palestinian attack

[spywizard]

Sorry no graphic pics to make you feel sorry, but maybe this further illustrates why people are so angry..


Just sayin



Diplomatic efforts to secure a ceasefire in the Middle East suffered a fresh blow yesterday with the death of a five-month-old boy, the son of Jewish settlers, who was hit in a Palestinian stoning attack in the occupied territories.
Diplomatic efforts to secure a ceasefire in the Middle East suffered a fresh blow yesterday with the death of a five-month-old boy, the son of Jewish settlers, who was hit in a Palestinian stoning attack in the occupied territories.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...ng-752651.html

[Tock]

I was stoned once . . .

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But in all seriousness, that whole conflict over there is the result of one brand of religious BS vs. another brand of religious BS being refereed by a third brand of religious BS.

Take all the religion out of the conflict, and suddenly no one knows what the fighting is all about. But the chance of anyone giving up their religious claims is somewhat less than the chance of me and Anita Bryant having a little 'quickie' behind one gay bar in each of the lower 48 states.

So . . . cry for the innocent victims all you can, but the people responsible for the violent acrimony will pay no attention, will never lay down their arms, will never establish a 100% secular government, until they complete God's command to eliminate all infidels from the planet.

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I say the h--- with 'em all.

[Panzerfaust]

Stones vs brutal modern artillery.

Wow!

[amcon]

look this is bad either way - have you ever lost a child? doesnt matter what your throwing (as long as it doesnt melt the good people - white Phosphorus stuff) death of children is not good - !!! on either side

[gst528i]

look this is bad either way - have you ever lost a child? doesnt matter what your throwing (as long as it doesnt melt the good people - white phosperous stuff) death of children is not good - !!! on either side

Thats what i have been saying, the children of god who have not commited any sins and don't even understand why there is so much hate are dragged in.
I think that if there is a GOD that will be our ultimate punishment, to see the small picture and bring our children into a world of hate.
I think that will be the ultimate failure of humanity.

[Matt]

look this is bad either way - have you ever lost a child? doesnt matter what your throwing (as long as it doesnt melt the good people - white phosperous stuff) death of children is not good - !!! on either side

White phosoreours???? need to get me some of that!!!!

[goose]

But then we get this:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090106/...l-41f21e0.html

[Matt]

But then we get this:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090106/...l-41f21e0.html

Some prick will come on soon and say Hamas were hiding in there........

[amcon]

Thats what i have been saying, the children of god who have not commited any sins and don't even understand why there is so much hate are dragged in.
I think that if there is a GOD that will be our ultimate punishment, to see the small picture and bring our children into a world of hate.
I think that will be the ultimate failure of humanity.

your 100% right!

[amcon]

White phosoreours???? need to get me some of that!!!!

Phosphorus (is that better?)- just the fact that you are reading every thing i say and commenting on things like this ... tells me alot... smile

[gst528i]

Some prick will come on soon and say Hamas were hiding in there........

Hamas was in there ...




No but seriously thats wrong. It doesnt matter if hamas was in there or not. There is not need to bomb the place. Instead a man operation to take control of the hospital would make more sense.
They could have gotten positive public media by controlling the school and protecting it from being destroyed by hamas or anything else

[BuffedGuy]

Peace be unto you.

The death of a child--no matter what religion--is a travesty. What crime did the child commit? And we know that children of that age are sinless.

Yet, are we supposed to forgive a brutal occupation which has killed hundreds and hundreds just because of this incident? Is the occupier and the occupied somehow equal? If a Jew killed a German child during World War II, then would this somehow make the Nazis and Jews equal? Could we somehow say that the issue is not one-sided?

As for the ceasefire, CNN has confirmed that it was the Israelis who broke the truce:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kntmp...to-gaza-4.html

This tactic--of riling up others against the occupied peoples--was also used by the American pioneers against the Native Americans. In order to justify the genocide of the Native Americans, the newspapers and media in America at the time would publish stories of women and children that were scalped by Native Americans. Yes, these events did happen, but they were published without balance and perspective.

The occupier is ALWAYS wrong.

[BuffedGuy]

Here are some pictures from Gaza:

http://portail.islamboutique.fr/gaza2008/

Warning: very graphic.

[Dinosaur]

iam just speachless, this is unfair.
may god have mercy on dose children that committed no wrong doing.

[Kale]

Peace be unto you.

The death of a child--no matter what religion--is a travesty. What crime did the child commit? And we know that children of that age are sinless.

Yet, are we supposed to forgive a brutal occupation which has killed hundreds and hundreds just because of this incident? Is the occupier and the occupied somehow equal? If a Jew killed a German child during World War II, then would this somehow make the Nazis and Jews equal? Could we somehow say that the issue is not one-sided?

As for the ceasefire, CNN has confirmed that it was the Israelis who broke the truce:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kntmp...to-gaza-4.html

This tactic--of riling up others against the occupied peoples--was also used by the American pioneers against the Native Americans. In order to justify the genocide of the Native Americans, the newspapers and media in America at the time would publish stories of women and children that were scalped by Native Americans. Yes, these events did happen, but they were published without balance and perspective.

The occupier is ALWAYS wrong.

Couldnt agree more.

I bet you a million dollars that if the UN annexed California and created the state of Israel there the shoe would be firmly on the other foot

[goose]

Couldnt agree more.

I bet you a million dollars that if the UN annexed California and created the state of Israel there the shoe would be firmly on the other foot

very true

[Matt]

Things will change with abit of luck, when Bush leaves...

[JiGGaMaN]

Couldnt agree more.

I bet you a million dollars that if the UN annexed California and created the state of Israel there the shoe would be firmly on the other foot

yeah we should give the palestinian mandate back to britain. or should we go back further and give it to the ottomans? or should we go back even further and give it to the romans? annex california? try something more like annexing detroit. thats more accurate of a comparison in terms of size/population.

[BTM0085]

Israeli's have killed more Palestinians by far than vice versa...Im quite frankly tired of hearing the Jews cry...Did you guys know the Japanese slaughtered twice as many chinese World War II time than Hitler killed Jews? why dont we have to hear about that all the time....80 million people died in WWII, why do we only hear about 6? Jewish media thats why.

[TesticularFortitude]

Israeli's have killed more Palestinians by far than vice versa...Im quite frankly tired of hearing the Jews cry...Did you guys know the Japanese slaughtered twice as many chinese World War II time than Hitler killed Jews? why dont we have to hear about that all the time....80 million people died in WWII, why do we only hear about 6? Jewish media thats why.

You are a ****ing idiot. You are disputing the historical significance of the Holocaust. Bright light you are buddy. I think it is funny that you are speaking spiteful about an entire religious populace because you believe they have been given too much attention for being the victim of genocide. People like you are a tumor on social well being. You speak much more than you know - put down the keyboard and get off of the forums - go pick up a book.

[BTM0085]

Since when is speaking truthful speaking spiteful? I did read a book d!ickhead thats where I got those FACTS from...Was anything that I posted incorrect, prove me wrong please?!?!!? Stating cold and simple facts of WW II atrocities makes an idiot, you read a book, I can tell youve been watching too much of that liberal tv. Get this, theres more Russians in US than Jews, And Nazi's killed more Russians than Jews. We never hear about the poor Russians the jewish holocaust made up 4% of WW II deaths....The Us is so pro Israel its disgusting look at the headlines making Hamas out to be the monsters. Look at the death tolls, Israel has killed 50 X Hamas than vice-versa. Why should they have deserved Israel in the first place? How would you feel if a bunch of big guys came into your house, and forcefully had a new pesky roomate move in....You wouldn't like it one bit.

[BuffedGuy]

Peace be unto you.

I am going to first say something general, and then I am going to deal with one particular post, God-Willing.

The general comment I'd like to make is that we as human beings--not necessarily as Jews, Christians, Muslims, atheists, etc--but just as human beings--should feel empathy for the oppressed, no matter what skin color, religion, or whatever a people are. This means that we should feel empathy for:

1. The Jews that died in the Holocaust.
2. The Russians and Chinese that died in WWII.
3. The Palestinians being killed and oppressed today.

The problem arises when a person only focuses on one or two of those three, and ignores/downplays/denies the other one. So you will find that an anti-Semite will deny the Holocaust, whereas an ardent Zionist would deny the Palestinian suffering.

With regards to this issue here:

yeah we should give the palestinian mandate back to britain. or should we go back further and give it to the ottomans? or should we go back even further and give it to the romans? annex california? try something more like annexing detroit. thats more accurate of a comparison in terms of size/population.

I believe that you stated in another thread that you are Jewish, and I am assuming from this post you are a Zionist or pro-Israeli. What I'll say is this: you are furthering two contradictory arguments. The very BASIS of the creation of Israel is a claim based in history--an event that happened THOUSANDS of years ago. This was the very justification used to destroy Palestine and replace it with Israel. Yet on the other hand you are saying that we should forget what happened just fifty years ago! You are now arguing that it is absurd to "take it back" fifty years ago, which by the way, means when the Palestinian elderly were children. (It's not even a generation back--it's the *same* generation.)

My point is: why is it ok for you "to take it back" THOUSANDS of years to justify the creation of Israel, yet it is absurd to even speak about the recent past when it supports the Palestinian cause? It seems that you want to just brush everything under the rug if it does not support the Zionist agenda. "Israel stole land some fifty or sixty years ago? So what? That's ancient history! Oh yeah, Palestine belongs to us because we had it thousands of years ago."

Most neutral people--who are properly educated on the facts--would say that it is indeed absurd to base a claim on what happened THOUSANDS of years ago, but it's just common sense to discuss what happened in the very recent past. (The bias of the Zionists is made clear when they flip common sense on its head and say "oh yeah it's absurd to talk about what just happened...but oh yeah let's discuss what happened THOUSANDS of years ago.")

On another note: I don't think you can study *any* conflict without at least knowing what happened to that region in the recent past, and that's something that really bothers me when people support invasions of countries without even knowing the very recent history of that peoples. And I give the example of Iraq, which I've discussed in my "Ask the Muslim" thread.

I go back to my original point: we need to be balanced and fair to understand the situation.

In the Care of the Lord,
-Saladin.

[TesticularFortitude]

Since when is speaking truthful speaking spiteful? I did read a book d!ickhead thats where I got those FACTS from...Was anything that I posted incorrect, prove me wrong please?!?!!? Stating cold and simple facts of WW II atrocities makes an idiot, you read a book, I can tell youve been watching too much of that liberal tv. Get this, theres more Russians in US than Jews, And Nazi's killed more Russians than Jews. We never hear about the poor Russians the jewish holocaust made up 4% of WW II deaths....The Us is so pro Israel its disgusting look at the headlines making Hamas out to be the monsters. Look at the death tolls, Israel has killed 50 X Hamas than vice-versa. Why should they have deserved Israel in the first place? How would you feel if a bunch of big guys came into your house, and forcefully had a new pesky roomate move in....You wouldn't like it one bit.

You are clearly a ****ing goof. you said yyou are tired of hearing the Jews Cry..... thats not spiteful? - then i digress.
you are a joke - im not sayin that the japanese didnt have more casualties. I am sayin that discrediting one genocide for being less grand than another is moronic.. saying you are tired of hearing the jews cry about the holocaust is spiteful and ignorant. and your whole hamas/israel analogy also proves you arent very educated. I'm glad to see that while most educated minds find it difficult to pinpoint the cause of this war, but you have a very well thought out synopsis.

[TesticularFortitude]

its pretty stupid to really have anything to say about jews - i mean most people are aware that Judaism is a religion and Israeli is a nationality.

[Kale]

TesticularFortitude and BTM0085 I am warning both of you !! Keep your smart mouths to yourselves or your asses will be banned out of here !!!!