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02-27-2010, 07:20 PM #41
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02-27-2010, 07:21 PM #42
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02-27-2010, 07:25 PM #43Anabolic Member
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Right its anti white when it comes to prosecution of a white domestic terrorist that raped a 7 year old.
But go ahear point to a post that was ¨anti-white
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02-28-2010, 09:52 AM #44
I thought you were done?
So, he's a white domestic terrorist?
what terrorist act was he responsible for?
Yes, you are very anti white and racial with many of your posts.
Clearly you're no legal expert. But wtf, let if go. We aren't living in "Minority Report" here. You can't arrest someone for rape until they rape someone or are accused of raping someone.
You can't search someone's home or lock them up and throw away the key until they commit a crime. How do you not get that that protection is a good thing for everyone who lives in this country and has nothing to do with skin color.
You're yet to tell me what we would charge the guy with before rape. Do you not get that if you find an illigal weapon in someone's house under an unlawful search, it gets thrown out in court. Or do you make an exception for white people and just lock them up and throw away the key should their civil rights be violated?
Or maybe you think minorities don't get a trial in this country?
You have no point, you have no legal knowledge, and you're a bitter person in matters of race.
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02-28-2010, 10:22 AM #45Anabolic Member
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02-28-2010, 11:04 AM #46
maybe I play the racism card, because it has been thrown on me so many times on here for no reason. I decided if people were going to take the easy dirty way rather then present facts, I'd do the same.
time and again you misslead people as to my opinion on profiling. I've said in the past and I'll say it again "racial profiling is racist when the only criteria in the profile is race"
I only say law enforcement should be able to use profiling, with race being a component of a much larger profile. Right wing extremist is a profile as well. You assume them to be white, and most of them are (and I might add, you don't feel the least bit racist for doing so)...so when law enforcement is looking for one...they're probably going to pull over the white guy with the shaved head driving a rusted out bronco with the bumpersticker "fear the gvt that fears your gun" for not putting on their turn signal to see what he's up to. That's profiling as well, why do you not get that. They aren't pulling over every white guy.
Again please quote Charles Dyer as making terrorist threats...I'm sorry your word is not good enough. I'm giving you the chance to win here. How many times are you going to ignore this request?
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02-28-2010, 11:34 AM #47Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by Kratos;508***2
Charles Dyer ¨ Depends on what you want to do with it. Me? I'm going to use my training and become one of those domestic terrorists that you’re so afraid of from the DHS reports. ¨
http://www.google.com/search?hl=es&l...yer%22&spell=1
Or maybe him wanting to become a domestic terrorist and use his military training just does not seam like a big deal to you.
Waiting for you next post of justifing Dyer´s quote and more using race as a crutch.
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02-28-2010, 12:05 PM #48
seems I do know how to use google
as the same quote you posted was in one of my previous posts on the first page
If the worst thing you can come up with is criticism of the DHS reposts, I don't think there was much of a case against the guy prior to the rape.
ignore the fact this is from fox news...I'm not a fan of fox news...you can just watch the first 15 seconds (from c-span) and tell me which is more of a call to violence.
He is still free to walk the streets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DVKf...eature=related
I am no fan or follower of charles dyer, I'm simply disputing your claim that he would have been thrown in jail had he not been white.
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02-28-2010, 12:13 PM #49Anabolic Member
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Okay so you really are justifing his statement... wow... okay
If the worst thing you can come up with is criticism of the DHS reposts, I don't think there was much of a case against the guy prior to the rape.
He did not critize shit he said ¨become one of those domestic terrorists that you’re so afraid of from the DHS reports ¨ And a few weeks later we saw what doestic terrorist exactly do, didn´t we?
How you get critize from that statement you need to explain.
And, then you post another vid that is to imply ¨hey you think Dyer was bad hell these guys are worse so that must like mean something right¨
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02-28-2010, 12:27 PM #50
If you are in the CD section of wal mart as a teenager, you can bet the camara is on you. It's all profiling.
What were the warning signs or reasons that Joeseph Andrew Stack was going to dump his plane into a building? From what I undertand the anti-gvmt manifesto was a sucide note...and therefore it was a little late to stop him.
If you should have profiled him, what action should they have taken and where? What evidence would they have found, and what would he been charged with.
You say profile this guy...ok. How? Do a traffic stop in his airplane? I don't get it.
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02-28-2010, 12:31 PM #51
I'm just saying people run their mouth all the time and it doesn't always mean jail time. If you want to get white trash in an up-roar, just start doing illigal search and seizures looking for guns and watch them swell in numbers.
Dyer also said
“We come home and those bastards want to talk about how we’re domestic terrorists and a threat to this country. It makes me so angry,”
the other quote sounds worse. He doesn't feel his group or other right wing groups should be labeled that way. There is no direct threat, nor is his group guilty of a past or present terrorist attack. It's borderline is what I'm saying. You'd want a little more evidence if you were going to make any charges stick.Last edited by Kratos; 02-28-2010 at 12:37 PM.
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02-28-2010, 01:28 PM #52
wonder if this guy is in jail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8aaI...eature=related
here's something hispanic if you feel you do not get free speach or the right to protest in this country. I don't agree with the title or some of the comments as they could be seen as racist. But clearly so are some of the people being commented on, so it's a wash.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eaf_1175241769&%3Bc=1Last edited by Kratos; 02-28-2010 at 02:01 PM.
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02-28-2010, 05:20 PM #53Anabolic Member
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I find it laughable that you called the arab guy that married the 12 year-old a RAPIST but all the sudden with Dyer you suggest he is innocent until proven and blaw blaw blaw DNA conspiracy blaw blaw blaw... You didn´t at all make any points abour the arab. Hell you didn´t suggest if he was even able to get his dick up. Or, it was not important that the guy even had sex with the 12 year-old.
And, you are the one using race as a crutch and posting crap like ¨ I don't agree with the title or some of the comments as they could be seen as racist¨ but hell you are posting it anyway.
You have the nerve to suggest a rapist was just ¨ criticism of the DHS reposts ¨ when is wanting to be a domestic terrorist from the HDS reports. And to sum it all up you go ahead and use race as a crutch again by calling me racist even though I am the one against profiling. You are truly confused.
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03-01-2010, 09:12 AM #54
Please post a link to that thread, I don't remember posting that.
thanks. In fact I strongly doubt I did, but maybe on an off day or something. Please prove it to me or I'll assume your claims have no merit.
So, you are pro putting people in jail before they break the law.
I strongly disagree with marriage to such young girls, because clearly she is not the one interested in the marriage. How would you feel if it was your daughter. You'd sell her to an old man? It's kinda gross dude. But it's up to the people of Saudi Arabia to outlaw it should they choose to do so, not America. They live there, we live here.
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03-01-2010, 09:20 AM #55
Why do I have to seach for a video with the same footage just because that one has comments I don't support.
I was asking you to look at the actual footage of what was going on, not the opinion of the person shooting the video.
I didn't make the video, the footage is real...the comments are not mine.
I asked you to look past the comments, and if you can't or they offended you, I'm sorry.
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03-01-2010, 09:31 AM #56
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03-01-2010, 09:42 AM #57
I'm lost on what we're talking about here Pharm, I mean really...
You're so excited to look for racism, you've lost all sight of logic.
would you agree or disagree with this statement:
For racism to go away, white people need to not say or do racist things. Also, minorities have to do their part by not excessivly looking for or claming racism. Overly complaining about racism also hurts race relations.
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03-01-2010, 11:40 AM #58Anabolic Member
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You didn´t call for any evidence or any other bull shit did you on that thread? You were not Mr. Innocent until proven guilty on that thread were you? Not one post you made was in defence of rights or any other issue was it? You can hit the search button I am not your daddy or your teacher
thanks. In fact I strongly doubt I did, but maybe on an off day or something. Please prove it to me or I'll assume your claims have no merit.
So, you are pro putting people in jail before they break the law. Making terrorist threats for the 10ths time is illegal.
I strongly disagree with marriage to such young girls, because clearly she is not the one interested in the marriage. How would you feel if it was your daughter. You'd sell her to an old man? It's kinda gross dude. But it's up to the people of Saudi Arabia to outlaw it should they choose to do so, not America. They live there, we live here.
That was not the point was it? you called the guy a rapist didn´t you? I am not going to dip every post you got up. The domestic terrorist, suddenly you are mr. civil rights and proven innocent until shown guilty. I find it entertaining you can´t use search and you are still justifing Dyer in any way.
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Bold.
But here:
80 yr old marries an 11yr old in saudi arabia
Show me on this thread where you defended civil right and innocent until proven guilty, show me?Last edited by FranciscoG; 03-01-2010 at 12:01 PM.
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03-01-2010, 11:43 AM #59Anabolic Member
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03-01-2010, 11:49 AM #60Anabolic Member
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actually you are the one using racism and calling me a racist. In fact I have said over and over again profiling is wrong.
You are using race as a crutch again and getting away from the argument. You are still pro profiling. Which is fine that´s your choice.
Let us agree that the Austin domestic terrorist was an average looking white male not some as you put it ¨bumper sticker.... old bronco... militia...¨
But since you are so for all that. Then there is your profile.
* it aint worth it, one one post you are posting what we need to to to get over racism on another post you want to profile and yet on other posts you defend right wing nuts like Dyer*Last edited by FranciscoG; 03-01-2010 at 11:53 AM.
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03-01-2010, 05:25 PM #61
for the 10th time he didn't make a terrorist threat
TERRORISTIC THREAT
(a) A person commits an offense if he threatens to commit any offense involving violence to any person or property with intent to:
1.cause a reaction of any type to his threat[s] by an official or volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies;
2.place any person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury;
3.prevent or interrupt the occupation or use of a building; room; place of assembly; place to which the public has access; place of employment or occupation; aircraft, automobile, or other form of conveyance; or other public place;
4.cause impairment or interruption of public communications, public transportation, public water, gas, or power supply or other public service;
5.place the public or a substantial group of the public in fear of serious bodily injury; or
6.influence the conduct or activities of a branch or agency of the federal government, the state, or a political subdivision of the state.
he never threated to commit any specific offense involving violence
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03-01-2010, 05:31 PM #63
Leagally the could have done little to stop him.
You can own a car and it doesn't become a deadly weapon until you run someone over. Same with a plane.
He wouldn't have done anything illigal until he submitted the suicide note, burned his house down, and piled his plane into a building. Even if he made the same youtube videos, they were not a crime.
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03-01-2010, 06:02 PM #64
here is a list of terrorist attacks by muslims just in 2009
don't tell me white people are catching up, with what 3 or 5 terrorist attacks in the history of white people that you can mention.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2009.htm
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03-01-2010, 07:49 PM #65
You are yet to define exactly what profiling is. I'm not advocating violating anybody's rights. What I'm saying is, look suspiciously on people more likely to be involved.
Scenario 1: A prominent news anchor receives a threatening letter laced with the anthrax bacteria. The letter was mailed from a mailbox in Trenton, New Jersey, postmarked September 25. In the course of the investigation, law-enforcement officials locate a witness who says that she saw an Arab man in his twenties, wearing sunglasses and talking on his cell phone, drive up and deposit several letters in a suburban Trenton mailbox on the morning of September 25. She remembers overhearing him say into his phone, "We will mail letters tomorrow to CBS and CNN. Allah is great!" In attempting to locate the man, police limit their search to individuals who fit the witness's description - i.e., young Arab men.
Scenario 2: The FBI receives a credible threat that a well-known Arab terrorist network plans to highjack a commercial airliner and crash it into the U.S. Capitol. In light of the events of September 11, the FBI orders all airport national guard, security, and airline personnel to be on the lookout for, and to investigate thoroughly, all airline passengers of Middle Eastern descent, as well as anyone else whom airport officials think suspicious.
Can you explain go into details why in either one of these cases law enforcement is wrong.
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Considering most of the attacks mentioned on that site are in places like Iraq, Afghanistan, both occupied by 'American Zionist Imperialists' or something like that as the attackers would say; and Pakistan-a country that has a regime that is helping the US with it's imperialism, and other places in the middle-east.. if you want to call this 'terrorist attack' like a roadside bomb targeting an American tank is a 'terrorist attack' .. Once the occupation hense the national oppression of these countries starts, then violence ensues against the occupier and people considered to be facilitating it.
'white people' - or should we say americans, europeans, and israelis are not under oppression so it's different, a 'white person' in Nebraska can only imagine every time he leaves his house he has to go thru an arab checkpoint, and the arabs are controlling all the natural resources and the economy in nebraska to their advantage while the white people are forced to live in impoverished segregated ghettos (like the Palestinians) and be exploited and considered third class citizens in their own country.
I WOULD BE SO FKING PISED
But talking about terrorist attacks inside the USA, this has mostly been a phenomenon carried out by white people, if you were to list the attacks since the 1960s, from Charles Manson's group(they had a clear political agenda) to the unibomber, a KuKluxKlan attack is a 'terrorist' attack, anything with some kind of political motivation, not a criminal act for profit like a mafia attack.. very few of these have been carried out by muslims even though there are many muslims living in the US and muslims can enter the US w/o too much difficulty..
So these 'white people' in the US commit terrorist attacks even though they are not under any (direct) occupation or oppression-in the case of the militia movement-they simply imagine or invent an oppression/ or the feel that the central government is not representing themor is screwing them, hence 'oppression'.
Like in the case of this IRS bombing pilot-he considers the government to be oppressive because of the unfair tax burden it places on him-and i mentioned earlier this is indirectly related to the oppression of Arabs and Afghans on the other side of the world-it's very expensive and an imperialist regime like the USA ends up creating enemies amongs it's own people.
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03-04-2010, 08:53 AM #67
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03-04-2010, 03:00 PM #68Anabolic Member
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Exactly, so now on this thread where DNA and all that other civil rights crap is brought up you argue for civil rights?
Plain question here and answer it honestly.
Do you have a racial issue with middle eastern or middle eastern looking males?
Frankly you little scenarios are with respect to arabs and middle eastern males only, So you hate all arabs?
If you are pro racial profiling why is it that you have not suggested a white male child molester racial profiling data base (ages 20-35, average income) ?
Why is it you each of your scenarios is arab this and arab that?
Hey do me a favor on if you are going to debate lets keep the racist attitude against arabs out of it. It kinda turns people (me) off and makes you look like a bigot.
Waiting for your next post of using race as a crutch and more crap about how domestic terrorist Dyer is innocent.
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03-04-2010, 03:12 PM #69Anabolic Member
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And lets try to be a little more consistant.
See how I called both the arab and the white male a rapist and child molester. Thats called consistant. When you suggest that the white male is ¨funny...government... spoke out againt... this... happens... the evidence¨ people might think that well since you didn´t stand up for the arab guy´s rights then your might have a racial bigoted bias against arabs.
By suggesting that there is a consiperacy again Dyer people might think you are right wing anti-government nut job like the Austin terrorist.
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03-04-2010, 03:25 PM #70Anabolic Member
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The guy that starts thread like this
Jihad on Swiss
And does not object to hate language in these threads nor states hate language is wrong makes statements like this:
¨Minorities should do thier part¨
I guess you think minorities should solve racial problems in the US and you can just post hate shit, and its all good.
Waiting for you denying you are not racist and more racial crutching.
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03-04-2010, 04:39 PM #71
So what you're saying is terrorism is justified because of the west pretty much everywhere there are muslims.
btw a few of those were in the USA.
for example this was in december
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=118131
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03-04-2010, 04:54 PM #76
Conspiracy theory aside, if he is guilty he will go to jail for rape.
Prior to which he did not commit a crime, or I should say the gvmnt had no knowledge or reason to suspect a crime.
Domestic terroist for what act or planning of what act?
I not a fan of him, but I don't like the example because it doesn't prove your point which is what the example should do. Just because I'm able to put holes in the fact it proves your point doesn't make me his best friend.
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03-04-2010, 04:58 PM #77Anabolic Member
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Right, I guess you are just misunderstood. Almost each and every time you make any kinda racial negative comment it does not concern whites.
You are just an civil rights kinda guy, (ahum for a domestic terrorist), unless the guy is arab then profiling is all good. (see scenarios above if want to deny and you can answer your own question at the end of that post)...
With the arab that married a 12 year-old, which is clearly wrong, its all good to you cause he did not break any laws... Oh wait above you stated his marriage was wrong but above after being confronted about not making any comments on that thread about civil right you suddenly mention ¨And I called neither a rapist.
Until the trial¨... But in post 75 its all good (after you get called out about Dyer raping a 7 year-old and you not objecting in the arab males thread about his civil rights) cause you are waiting for a trial... Right okaaaaaaaiiiiiii.....
So you didn´t answer the question and yeah I am not just gonna take you dodging the question as a pass...
Do you have a racial issue with middle eastern or middle eastern looking males?
Frankly you little scenarios are with respect to arabs and middle eastern males only, So you hate all arabs?
If you are pro racial profiling why is it that you have not suggested a white male child molester racial profiling data base (ages 20-35, average income) ?
Why is it you each of your scenarios is arab this and arab that?
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03-04-2010, 05:04 PM #78Anabolic Member
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The fact that you have time and time again suggested that there might be a conspiracy (even though DNA is recovered in hospital via rape kits on this poor 7 year-old and a visual examination is conducted) is not a fact that should be put aside... It extermine right wing nuts that suggest there is a wide government conspiracy to frame people that speak anti establishment.
The kid got raped and you actually saying its a conspiracy is just fvcken sad.
I bet if this guy was not anti government, tea party leader, right wing nut, but a regular child molester you wouldn´t even make that statement... Wait I am right ¨Funny... spoke out against¨
People that think there is a wide government effort to rape 7 year-old little girls to frame an individual should have thier heads examined!
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03-04-2010, 05:30 PM #79
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03-04-2010, 05:34 PM #80Anabolic Member
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No I don´t have the police evidence. Nice dodging the questions again.
I know for a fact that rape kits must be done inorder to recover DNA, Sperm, and so on. Source, my own exprience.
Nice dodging the conspiracy question again.
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