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    Only in America

    A Real Eye Opener


    WHY is the USA BANKRUPT?

    Informative, and mind boggling!


    You think the war in Iraqis costing us too much? Read this:

    Boy, was I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq
    war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us.


    I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.



    I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I also have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts...
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    1.. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.


    Verify at: http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...suecenters7fd8



    2.. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.



    Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML





    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

    Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML




    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spenton primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!



    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt..0.HTML





    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.



    Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.HTML





    6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.



    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANSC...01/ldt.01.HTML




    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.



    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...1/ldt..01.HTML <http://transcripts..cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML>




    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.



    Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.HTML




    9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.



    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSC%20...01/ldt.01.HTML






    10. The illegal aliens in the United Stateshave a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US .




    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../ldt..01..HTML <http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...2/ldt..01.HTML>






    11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries.. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the USfrom the Southern border.



    Verify at: Homeland Security Report:




    12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annuallyover a five year period.'



    Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o...eportation.PDF



    13.. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.



    Verify at: http://www.rense..com/general75/niht.htm <http://www.rense.com/general75/niht..htm>



    14.. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.'


    Verify at:http: // www.drdsk.com/articleshtml <http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml> http://ww/%20w.drdsk.com/articleshtml <http://20w.drdsk.com/articleshtml>



    The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS $338,300,000,000.00 WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY.

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    that sucks.... lucky i dont live in the US..

    you got me excited with the alien bit. I thort you meant extra terrestrials.

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    Michael Savage slams this issue daily...

    the illegals are bankrupting the us, they are protected by our constituition while not even being a citizen.

    its fvking sickening....close the borders, bounce the illegals....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooseman33 View Post
    Michael Savage slams this issue daily...

    the illegals are bankrupting the us, they are protected by our constituition while not even being a citizen.

    its fvking sickening....close the borders, bounce the illegals....
    Of course that makes sense to you and I. But the people who are in a position to actually do anything about it (politicians), won't because going to far one way or the other on the issue is political poison. Ridiculous.

    I laugh every time I see a politician up there acting like they give a fk about the "people"...they are all out for themselves, each and every one of them. I don't blame them for it, everyone is out for themselves in some shape or form...I just hate when they pretend they aren't...which is all the time.

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    it is a fact that the illegals are bankrupting our country.

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    and isn't it ironic that the rest of the world seems to hate the US....yet the US has this problem with illegal immigration...

    makes one think that the US should start acting like the giant Dick the county is claimed to be.

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    they will like us when they fear us....

    fvk being nice to the world, enough of the apology tours, kick ass and take names...

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    Damn them Mexicans.

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    On a serious note.

    With many med degrees you are given a green card more or less, that also goes for many other professional fields.

    What I don´t understand is why the government does not allow the same for none skilled labor jobs.

    What I mean is lets say if a hospital needs a certain skilled labor, well if that person can not be found or that hospital has to hire outside the US due to the lack of people with that skilled labor then there is a way to bring in persons from the outside. Hence why so many medical professionals are from middle east or India or __________.

    If a company is looking for apple pickers and no one wants to do that job or no one can be found then why can´t the farmer go outside and use the same principle. This is not applicable in the Great Recession but could should it be applicable in other times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PharmDoc-Cyrus View Post
    On a serious note.

    With many med degrees you are given a green card more or less, that also goes for many other professional fields.

    What I don´t understand is why the government does not allow the same for none skilled labor jobs.

    What I mean is lets say if a hospital needs a certain skilled labor, well if that person can not be found or that hospital has to hire outside the US due to the lack of people with that skilled labor then there is a way to bring in persons from the outside. Hence why so many medical professionals are from middle east or India or __________.

    If a company is looking for apple pickers and no one wants to do that job or no one can be found then why can´t the farmer go outside and use the same principle. This is not applicable in the Great Recession but could should it be applicable in other times.
    I have several friends from South America, both with advanced science degrees. Through school they could not legally work off campus, they were here on student visas. On the day they graduated they had 6 months to leave the country or apply for a work visa. The problems was that they couldnt apply for a work visa until after they had completed their educations, there was a back log of over 2 years for work visa applications. Fortunately for one they got married in the time after graduation. The other one disappeared because they faced deportation. The Government came looking for them and interviewed several people about their whereabouts. To my knowledge they were never caught. Both had to pay out of state tuition for their graduate education. Which is not cheap at all. Since they were here legally they where not affored the tuition break (in state tuition) that the children of illegal immigrants are in that state. Needless to say they feel that the immigration policy for those who do it legally are unfair.

    A very close friend of mine is Vietnamese. He and his family are here legally under asylum since his father worked for the US Army during the Vietnam War. In order for his family to get his oldest brother and his wife and children to come over it took them 7 years and over 10,000 dollars in legal and government fees to get them here. Before they could come the brother had to show that he had a usable skill. He indeed worked in a small machine shop and had some machine working skills. Once here he and everyone that was to work outside the home had to attend mandatory intensive english courses for at least 6 months according to INS.

    I have another friend that is Canadian that is going to school here. He can not get cell phone service since he doesnt have a SSN or American Credit. He can not get American Credit because he has no credit history or an American Citizen to co-sign for him. He can only get prepaid cell phone service and department credit cards. He can not legally work here since he is a student and can not receive student loans from the US government. Every time we go out, he has to present his canadian ID and Passport for entry into bars. Yet illegal immigrants can receive drivers license here and do not need to prove immigration status as he does just to drink a beer.
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    ^^ I did my first 4 years in Texas for my initial degrees.

    That is one thing I never understood. Why even allow immigration if in the end there is back logs like that and the legal immigrants are forced illigal or deported (I wonder how much deportations cost a year).

    To me why not just stop the Visa Education process? Hell wanna come to the US to attend a college fvck you.

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    MS, just who is that strange looking woman in your avy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_Pig View Post
    A Real Eye Opener


    WHY is the USA BANKRUPT?

    Informative, and mind boggling!


    You think the war in Iraqis costing us too much? Read this:

    Boy, was I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq
    war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us.


    I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.



    I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I also have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts...
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    1.. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.


    Verify at: http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...suecenters7fd8



    2.. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.



    Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML





    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

    Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML




    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spenton primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!



    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt..0.HTML





    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.



    Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.HTML





    6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.



    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANSC...01/ldt.01.HTML




    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.



    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...1/ldt..01.HTML <http://transcripts..cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML>




    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.



    Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.HTML




    9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.



    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSC%20...01/ldt.01.HTML






    10. The illegal aliens in the United Stateshave a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US .




    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../ldt..01..HTML <http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...2/ldt..01.HTML>






    11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries.. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the USfrom the Southern border.



    Verify at: Homeland Security Report:




    12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annuallyover a five year period.'



    Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o...eportation.PDF



    13.. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.



    Verify at: http://www.rense..com/general75/niht.htm <http://www.rense.com/general75/niht..htm>



    14.. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.'


    Verify at:http: // www.drdsk.com/articleshtml <http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml> http://ww/%20w.drdsk.com/articleshtml <http://20w.drdsk.com/articleshtml>



    The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS $338,300,000,000.00 WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY.
    OP, What is the point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
    MS, just who is that strange looking woman in your avy?
    Its the Chick from the show Jersey Shore on the tv channel that has almost single handed-ally led to the moral and social decay of the USA. I am of course talking about MTV.

    http://www.mtv.com/shows/jersey_shore/series.jhtml
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    Read my post, It's money wasted that is my point. I am tired of paying for the free ride. That is my point.

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    Let me preface this first by saying I am all for reforming immigration laws. But for those who say that we should deport all illegals, I ask the question, how do you propose to do this? Can you not see the logistical nightmare of trying to round up every single illegal alien and send them back to their host country? The expense would be tremendous, not to mention the legal ramifications. What about the question of deporting parents of legal immigrants (infants and children)?

    I've been blessed with having the resources to travel quite extensively in my life. And I've found that all the places I've been, people love Americans. They don't like American politics and American foreign policy. There is a difference.

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