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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
    Well Bush is your classic Christian "Good ole Boy", so that could be reason enough. That being said, if this was planned (not saying it was or wasnt), prehaps certain administrations were arrogant enough to believe that we could go into Iraq and Afghanistan, curb stomp everyone within 12 months and sieze all the oil fields. That being said, no one predicted the Banks and people like Madof dragging the entire planet into a world wide recession, which of course is going to prolong the pointless Middle East War.

    Zabster, even if it's true...what do you think would realistically happen? A revolution? People are so damn lazy these days, I don't think people would get off their fat arses as long as they are being fed Simon Cowel every day. And I dont think a revolution is even possible today. Maybe 50 or 100 years ago, but when you can bomb a baying mob from altitude today, what chance is there.

    I don't want to sound like a conformist or a defeatist, im not...just that the times are changing and something incredibly radical would have to happen to change the mindsets of the masses. If 911 is as bogus as you say, neither you or me will ever hear about it officially in our life times.

    EDIT: If people really want change, vote in Ron Paul for christ sakes...
    Ron Paul!

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    Ok, say all this is true and the US government knew about the attacks and/or building 7 was a planned demolition.

    Here's the question: Why? What was the net gain? Both these wars stemming from this occurrence have been disasters. Oil prices have collapsed (even though they surged for a short time), so I'm eager to know why Bush and his boys would plan this. And something like this would take years of planning, much longer than when Bush was in office up until that time. So was it Bush I, Regan, Clinton? C'mon, I'm dying to know the logic behind such a disaster.

    Why?
    What Gains?

    Patriot Act rewrote the constitution.
    War. War is profitable. How much money has companies like Haliburton made off of these so called wars.
    The private sector are the ones who benifit from men of our generation dying for their profits.
    If you scare the shit out of people they will give up their freedoms for security.
    Maybe not all of these "conspiracy theories" are right, but this is alternative thought.
    If you get all of your info from mainstream american news sources then you are truly a blind sheep.
    And if this is true then Paris Hilton arrested for Coke is the top story, but these wars are back page news, and the poison they are spraying in the gulf is not top news

    This is not the first time something like this has happened.
    They are called false flag operations.

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    Ron Paul, well said jj78

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    If i may,

    Quote Originally Posted by JJ78 View Post
    Ok, say all this is true and the US government knew about the attacks and/or building 7 was a planned demolition.

    Here's the question: Why? What was the net gain? Both these wars stemming from this occurrence have been disasters. Oil prices have collapsed (even though they surged for a short time), so I'm eager to know why Bush and his boys would plan this. And something like this would take years of planning, much longer than when Bush was in office up until that time. So was it Bush I, Regan, Clinton? C'mon, I'm dying to know the logic behind such a disaster.

    Why?
    What Gains?

    Patriot Act rewrote the constitution.
    War. War is profitable. How much money has companies like Haliburton made off of these so called wars.
    The private sector are the ones who benifit from men of our generation dying for their profits.
    If you scare the shit out of people they will give up their freedoms for security.
    Maybe not all of these "conspiracy theories" are right, but this is alternative thought.
    If you get all of your info from mainstream american news sources then you are truly a blind sheep.
    And if this is true then Paris Hilton arrested for Coke is the top story, but these wars are back page news, and the poison they are spraying in the gulf is not top news

    This is not the first time something like this has happened.
    They are called false flag operations.
    Some good point's there and i want to add a couple of things here if i may,
    not sure how many people know this, i would think it's common knowledge but as i am finding out the older i get the less common knowledge is.

    patriot act was singed in to law by bush at 2-3 am in the morning , why?
    the patriot act wich would normaly need congressional approval didn't be cause we are in a state of war wich give's the president more power then normal.

    I for one love my country,my people ,our way of life but our goverment has been fu%king us with no lube for a longtime i question the thinking of any one who would think things are fine and that regardless of weather or not our own goverment had any thing to do with 9/11 i think IMHO that our political and govermental sectors are not to be trusted.

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    Hey I love this country.

    I'm a ****in Patriot is the strongest sense of the word. I'm a Son of the Revolution. My family fought to overthrough tyranny in the 1700's.

    Good point up there by the poster about AAS. Do you really believe everything Fox,MSNBC,CNN tell you. Come on.

    Ya'll have to realize that everyday more and more Americans are losing their Jobs. These are men with families.
    I personally do not have children, but if I did and I had no work, bank took my house, My children cant get medical treatment because there are illegal immigrants littering the waiting room, cant buy food with no money.
    I'm gonna go take what I need, and I guarantee that this is happening and will only get worse.
    And I will not be suprised when it does, and I will be prepared. They (the ones who run this country and the world) dont give a **** about rights. We are considered slaves and they are and will treat us like this. IE Consumers, Credit debt, no bailout for us.

    Just rantin

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    well said maybe these people will get it soon.this country is headed for disaster we support illegal immigrants so much it makes no sense. what part of illegal does the government not get. They get away with murder free food free rent multie family living
    o yea free medical all ya have do is pop one out and your in. what joke this country is. its pretty obvious the government is planning something in the next year. just watch the stock market and the national debt. we are getting close to the ceiling again because of this war and immigration and bail outs. we cannot print more other countries are wise to the fact that are dollar has no value its just paper. all the fed does is print and then lend with crazy interest rates its a ruthless cycle of nothing. i mean look at America most roads, schools, piping electrical bridges farming are crap because all the money is wasted these could be jobs created rebuild are country from the water pipes to the electrical grid we could have a way better country if we did not focus so much on entertainment and more on are selves.

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