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    Advice for 37 yr old.

    I am going to do a second cycle soon. I did my first cycle, a 12 weeker in sep-dec 03. It was 500mg enanth /wk with the last 8 weeks including 50mg winny ed. I have enough prop to do 600mg/wk for 12 weeks and 2000mg of var to go along with it. I have my pct regiment with clomid and nolvadex .
    Any suggestions or recomendations from the broz with many cycles under their belt would help.

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    working on and off for 10yrs.

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    you are going to love that combo..

    prop and var...

    run the var 40mg day for 6-10 weeks.
    I did that and loved the results..
    take milk thistle with it to help the liver...

    i'm 43.......
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    I did the same thing a few months ago (I'm 51) as my second cycle. I did OK but I guess I have the anti-muscle gene. (I'm 6'5" and gained maybe 10lbs lean at the most.)

    Var is xlnt in my opinion but the Prop caused so much pain about 24 hrs after each shot it was kinda miserable. I used QV but I've corresponded with a dude who had to stop Viromone (human grade) cuz it was killing him too. I'd strongly suggest having some sterile oil on hand and if you keep having soreness cut the prop 50/50 with sterile oil. It made a HUGE diff for me.

    Some guys are sore for just the first few weeks then it's not bad but I toughed it out for five weeks and could still hardly move. (Although I could lift fine.)

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    By the way, my first cycle was T/EQ and a month later my HDL was still way too low but a month after the Var cycle it was normal.

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    Right on. Thanks for the info guyz.

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