Should I stay on or cycle off?

**Danny T** · 11-24-2006, 09:54 AM

I’m 48 years old and I’ve been on TRT for about 6 months now and my question is should I cycle off or should I stay on the rest of my life? Some of the ************ clinics say to cycle off and some say to stay on?? I have been following Dr.Crisler’s protocol and using HCG at 250 units twice a week and I feel great. I started TRT because my test level was 290 and I just had no energy, sleepy in the afternoon, could not loose fat and sex drive was shot. I would appreciate all the help I can get on the subject…Thanks!

**Kale** · 11-25-2006, 07:40 AM

In have been on for two years. No plan to ever come off. Why would you want too ? Coming off will do nothing for you

**Mighty Joe** · 11-26-2006, 06:44 PM

Kale,

My Doc wants me to switch to Cyp and go to 200/mg every 10 days. I'm done with my Prop cycle, but I'm gonna stay off for a few more weeks.
I think your TRT dose is similar. Do you feel you ever needed an anti-e with that dose? And do you drop HCG from time to time for the boys. This Doc advocates Clomid every 10 weeks for 10 days. Its just that I friggin hate clomid.

Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks in advance bro. MJ

**Danny T** · 11-26-2006, 10:35 PM

I think your right, I don't want to go off, I just want to make sure I'll be safe staying on. What do you think about HCG , should that be cycled or should you stay on that also? I'm doing 300mg of Enanthate a week and I'm getting a lot of acne on my back, shoulders & upper arms, would this go away if I lowered the dose? I appreciate your help!

**Kale** · 11-27-2006, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Mighty Joe

Kale,

My Doc wants me to switch to Cyp and go to 200/mg every 10 days. I'm done with my Prop cycle, but I'm gonna stay off for a few more weeks.
I think your TRT dose is similar. Do you feel you ever needed an anti-e with that dose? And do you drop HCG from time to time for the boys. This Doc advocates Clomid every 10 weeks for 10 days. Its just that I friggin hate clomid.

Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks in advance bro. MJ

My TRT dose is 100mg a week of Test E. I use Armidex at 0.25mg E2D just in case. My Estrogen level was 12 at the last test. Not sure if you need it or not but I would rather be safe than sorry. As for balls I dont care about them that much, they are half normal size but dont seem to be getting smaller. No idea why you would want to take Clomid on TRT. Thats just carzy

**Mighty Joe** · 11-27-2006, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

My TRT dose is 100mg a week of Test E. I use Armidex at 0.25mg E2D just in case. My Estrogen level was 12 at the last test. Not sure if you need it or not but I would rather be safe than sorry. As for balls I dont care about them that much, they are half normal size but dont seem to be getting smaller. No idea why you would want to take Clomid on TRT. Thats just carzy

Thanks for the advise brutha!

MJ

**Columbus** · 11-27-2006, 09:57 AM

Ive been on hrt for 6 months but am attemtping a pct to come off with the assistance of 10mg am dbol , hcg , clomid and nolva....5 week protocol and then I'll get retested.....imho, better to be off, but maybe its not possible.

**Mighty Joe** · 11-27-2006, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Columbus

Ive been on hrt for 6 months but am attemtping a pct to come off with the assistance of 10mg am dbol, hcg, clomid and nolva....5 week protocol and then I'll get retested.....imho, better to be off, but maybe its not possible.

Bro, This will be my first go with TRT. But I would do a little more research on a PCT regime for HRT. I'd be concearned about running HCG and Clomid at the same time. Also, running the d-bol may be counter-productive to what I think you want to acheive which is to get fully recovered.

Keep us posted and I'm sure Kale will be along in a minute as well. He knows his way around HRT stuff.

Good luck, MJ

**Logan13** · 01-05-2007, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by Columbus

Ive been on hrt for 6 months but am attemtping a pct to come off with the assistance of 10mg am dbol, hcg, clomid and nolva....5 week protocol and then I'll get retested.....imho, better to be off, but maybe its not possible.

You should never use hcg and clomid at the same time. Use hcg pre-pct only along with nolva, than proceed to pct with clomid and nolva.

**Columbus** · 01-05-2007, 07:02 AM

I always run HCG during the first 10 days of pct...not with clomid though....

**Logan13** · 01-05-2007, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Columbus

I always run HCG during the first 10 days of pct...not with clomid though....

10-4, that's the same thing that I always do as well.

**Logan13** · 01-05-2007, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Kale

In have been on for two years. No plan to ever come off. Why would you want too ? Coming off will do nothing for you

I am only 35YO, I have been on a low dose(300mg/week) prop cycle for 13 months. I tweek it every once in a while by throwing in masteron , but I have used hcg every 10 days at 500iu. If I were to stay on, I would need to switch to a longer ester. I was planning on doing a 3 month pct in Feb.