First cycle...advice or comments

[want2Bbigger]

I've been reading this board for a couple of weeks ... lots of conflicting information and lots of solid information ... here are my goals and plans. Any insight would be greatly appreicated. First cycle. I hope I've read enough to avoid being flammed



Age: 42
Weight: 160
B/F: 13%-14%

Goal: 170- 175 lbs and B/F of 10%-12%

Planned Cycle:

Week 1-7 20mg ed of Dbol (denkall)
Week 1-8 25 mg ed of Proviron
Week 1-8 Milk Thistle

Diet
3500 Cal per Day - low fat
150-200 Grams of protein per day

Workout
5x per week with personal trainer

What I hope:
Add 15-20 lbs then lose the water (5-10lbs) and end up with 10-15 lbs. I understand that the Proviron will help keep the water gain down from the dbol.

Also - I have available Androgol and could stack that if anyone thought it might help me acheive my goals.
I don't anticipate any future cycles - but will continue workout regiment and diet to keep it in shape (as long as possible considering that aging will continue to take it's toll).

[maximusdad]

Hi.. looks like ultimately you want to gain some mass and also lose body fat, correct? I would stay away from d-bol and instead go with sustanon and equipoise . The sust will retain a lot less water and still give solid gains. The eq will give you a harder quality muscle. Follow you cycle with a few eeks of clen ...makesure you are pushing 200g protein in your diet..

[TheMudMan]

That cycle doesn't look too good. Your going to want a lot more than 200 grams of protein in your diet if you want to grow also. I'm a little heavier than you 168lbs and only 5'7" at 10% bf and I take in at a minimum around 375 if not more.

Here's a cycle idea:
Weeks 1 - 10 Cyp @ 400mg
Weeks 1 - 10 EQ @ 400mg or Week 8 - 13 Winny @ 50mg ed
Clomid 3 weeks after last Cyp injection for 300mg on day one/ 100mg a day for 10 days / 50mg for 10 days or longer.

Have some nova on hand in case of gyno

Good luck.

[johnsomebody]

I'd really suggest doing more research research research as well. Took me a year of solid research, I mean hundreds of hours probably, before I really had the info squared away to be sure I knew what I was doing.
I kinda started where you are, only thinking that Priimo alone would be worth it, now I'm doing exactly what the bros above are suggesting, Test & EQ. And BOY am I glad I took the time to do the research. I'm also glad I've been lifting for 20 years before I started.
So good luck bro, just give yourself some time.