How to approach Doc about AAS?

[hubbayumm]

I'm due another 6 month check by my urologist and I want to be forthright with my plans of a test/win cycle. Is this a stupid idea?
My source (my only source) for AAS is exspensive.
For example Arimidex -100 tabs is $200.00 and from what I see on here this is something I should have on hand for a winstrol cycle. My estrogen
is high as is (60). Is this something the urologist would provide since I am on maintenance?

What do you guys discuss with them?

[bartman314]

i don't discuss it. i've talked around it with my gp and urologist to get a sense how open minded they were - and they weren't. i'd be surprised if your docs would be any different. to get a sense for it, try discussing trt with them and gauge their openmindedness.

[charger69]

I'm due another 6 month check by my urologist and I want to be forthright with my plans of a test/win cycle. Is this a stupid idea? My source (my only source) for AAS is exspensive. For example Arimidex-100 tabs is $200.00 and from what I see on here this is something I should have on hand for a winstrol cycle. My estrogen is high as is (60). Is this something the urologist would provide since I am on maintenance? What do you guys discuss with them?

Dont discuss it. If you are in the US, then it becomes part of your record. Once that's in there, everything that happens to you is because of AAS.
If you do feel that you are low on test, then i would mention the sysmptoms of low test so that he orders some bloodwork.

[Chicagotarsier]

Go get bloodwork. See where you are. Argueing that 350 is low test is a lot easier than saying...my magic 8 ball says I am low test. Ben Franklin gets you CBC Hormone and Thyroid panel where I am at.

From my experience your urologist would have had a hormone panel done first thing and since you know your estrogen is high...what is your test level?

[Chicagotarsier]

As aa followup...post your bloodwork and let the guys here talk you through a TrT program. A doctor is nothing magical especially where testosterone is involved. They don't use it except as last resort. For me they wanted to treat me for a thyroid issue even though my tests were perfect except for testosterone and estrogen. Most doctors are frightened animals. The guys on here know their stuff. Use the stuff. Have helped countless others use.

You are t the best resource on the planet.

[956Vette]

I'm due another 6 month check by my urologist and I want to be forthright with my plans of a test/win cycle. Is this a stupid idea?

Sadly, it is a foolish idea. You're best off reaching out to competent professionals at IMT.

[kelkel]

Sadly, it is a foolish idea. You're best off reaching out to competent professionals at IMT.

Totally agree. It is extremely rare to find a doc that you can discuss AAS openly with, and receive actual help in the form of ancillaries, etc.

[songdog]

Most are very closed minded.My wife opened her mouth to my x Doctor and he turned into a prick!

[MuscleScience]

My take is that you tell him, if he's a dick he's a dick. AAS have a very real effect on the urogenital tract. If you don't, he doesn't have the full picture. So how can he help you and then what would be the point of even going?

[kelkel]

My take is that you tell him, if he's a dick he's a dick. AAS have a very real effect on the urogenital tract. If you don't, he doesn't have the full picture. So how can he help you and then what would be the point of even going?

Really a good counter-point. "Jane you ignorant slut." (older guys will get that)

My Uro, who I discuss everything with and he helps every way possible, has said and I paraphrase, "As your doctor would you want me to hide something from you?"

[TRA]

I realize I am chiming in a couple of months late, but felt compelled to reply anyway. If it is a health issue that can have serious implications then it may be best to discuss but for anything else I would not recommend it. Physicians have no training regarding AAS and unless specializing in Endocrine or actively involved in Age Mgmt/HRT will have limited knowledge and recall about HTPA, etc. There is also an issue with a physician ethically (or so they feel) because steroids are illegal and receive so much bad press. If the record (and above comments are correct in that it becomes a permanent part of your health record if the doc documents it in chart) contains this information the physician can be called before the board if the chart is ever reviewed (random chart review for board complaint, lawsuit, reported by staff, etc.) and the physician does not document advising pt to discontinue AAS as well as documenting that health hazards were discussed. There is a physician oath (hypocratic oath) that states "First do no harm." Since the majority of physicians and healthcare individuals would view AAS as harmful, condoning the use and fashioning a health care plan around their use without simply advising the patient to stop and dismissing the patient from the practice if they continue for noncompliance, implies "doing harm."

It isn't that docs are evil, they just have not been trained to be open-minded in a lot of areas like AAS and are subject to lawsuits and board censure for things just like this.

This being said, there are docs out there who may be approached but they are difficult to find.

One option is to refer to use of "supplements" in the PAST that may have contained products that boosted hormones, stating you are unsure what was in the compound and asking that it not be recorded because you can't be sure, etc.

Personally, I would look for a doc on the forums with AAS experience that is open to PMs and suggestions that do not create a patient/physician contract and put the doc at risk.

[endocrineengineer]

I discontinued my TRT a few years ago and tell my general practitioner that I am still doing it. I tell him that because I am still taking test along with HGH and a bunch of other stuff off and on year round...Even when I was doing it and the TRT Dr would see my test levels at >1500 ng/dl I never disclosed what I was actually doing...He did not pry much but as long as he gets his money he was happy.. As part of TRT my experience has been 200mg Test Cyp/week with I believe 50Iu of HCG /wk and 1mg anastrozole weekly.... I do not have my blood work handy but this kept the Dr happy when I was off cycle... I always tried to do my blood work in about week 3-6 of my PCT... Personnaly I believe you should be honest with them if you can... He cannot help if he doesn't have a complete picture of what you are doing...

[Oki-Des]

I went to my urologist the other day and he prescribed me some meds; but I did not discuss AAS. But, when I got home I realized that he also prescribed me 1" 3ml testosterone needles. I have no idea why he did this, and that is how the prescription read. Although I never discussed it with him before, I cannot help to think he might be open minded and may have even been hinting something to me. But, I did not ask for the pins at the pharmacy as I order them online. But, it was an odd thing and I wanted to at least share another experience with a urologist.