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    Coming back from 8 month break

    I was mostly on HRT, steady for 3 years. Did maybe 3 small cycles during this time and tried most of the popular compounds. Made some decent gains but couldn't dial in my diet so good. Not a details person but I'm planning things better this time round. In the 8 months I lost 90% of my gains mostly because I had no drive or motivation to train hard. I was weaker off gear and quickly became fatter as well. It has been hard on my mental health. I lost 100 % of libido and very seldom desire sex. I have most of the symptoms of low T that got me involved and using HRT to start with. Had my test score done, its 9.1. Didn't get the other numbers yet. See my MD this week. The urologist I saw denied me HRT, say it will suppress my natural production. But my natural level's are low. Even if Im in the low normal its sucks. If my family Doc says no to HRT I'll self medicate. Grab my life back. I was happier on gear, by far. I learned so much in 3 years. Im an older man of 55, healthy for the most part. Please comment as you see fit, but I am looking for one suggestion....Im going to do a small cycle of test/deca at some point in the next 8 weeks. Should I do it right away or do HRT for abit, dip my toe back in the water, train hard and go for it down the road? Does it matter really? Hey, good to be back. Very honest and helpful people on this site. Thanks,

    Torey

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    What do you mean "mostly on TRT" for 3 years.
    Get a copy of your blood work and let us review it here.
    Do not let a doctor treat you as a number on a chart. You should be treated based on symptoms. Find another doctor if they do the former.
    TRT will totally shut down natural production. Exogenous T then takes over to get you to an acceptable, healthy level based on blood work.

    You should begin with TRT and get dialed in before you begain any cycles. Dialing in takes time and repeat BW via your doctor. Use this time to get yourself back in shape and then you'll be primed for a quality, well run cycle.

    Welcome to the forum Torey. Be sure to visit the HRT Forum as well as all the others.

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    Thanks Kelkel, What I meant was I was on TRT for the 3 years except for the 3 cycles I did. When the cycle ended I stayed on TRT. When I decided to stop to give my body a chance to reset I weaned myself off slowly over the course of 3-4 months. No post cycle protocol. Ugh! It was awful and never again, live and learn.
    I'll see my MD tomorrow and will ask for a copy of the blood work, good plan.

    The other advice is solid, no hurry here,

    Thanks again...Torey

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    Torey take a look in the HRT Forum's "Finding A Doc" sticky thread at the top of the forum. Try to obtain the first set of Blood Work in it. It will cover all the bases for you.
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    Done. Thanks Kel, very helpful. I liked the part that said "my health is in my control and my GP is there to help me" Not the Doc being in total control. My expectation is my GP won't help me and he will say exactly what you've warned against...Im in the normal range, albeit the low end of normal. I'll see him tomorrow and at very least get a report on my labs which will be posted here at some point. Very helpful, Mucho gracias

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    ok, I have my blood work in my hot hands. The other number on bioavailable is 3.2. The sex hormone binding globulin is 53 and as mentioned in first post my other test number is 9.1

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    What are the ranges?
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    ok, not sure how to read this exactly, mmmm, sigh,
    9.1----8.4-28.7. units, nmol/L
    Test bio---3.2----3.0-12.0. nmol/L
    sex globulin---53----13-71 . nmol/L range.

    i can scan it if needed and post,
    thanks Kel

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