Test C, NPP and Var cycle n PTC

**VBEAR** · 06-23-2023, 04:27 AM

Hi guys,

Firstly thanks to all of you who take the time to write detailed and personal replies and narratives as they are priceless and informative to those like me fumbling about trying to make sense of this whole business.

My question is, and thanks so much to Cuz already for pointing me in the right direction is about cycling.

Im about to start Test C and NPP at 300 weekly and as Cuz suggested .25 - .50 Anavar daily.

Can anyone suggest a 16 week cycle using the above and then what I have to do for PTC.

I have Clomid and Anazole for that.

Have no real idea how to put a proper cycle in place and the more I read on here the confusing and conflicting it gets.

Like Cuz I don't want to get bloated on the NPP as I have done before but just want some decent size without the puffiness n bloating.

On test p n NPP right now at 300 a week and looking to transition onto the new stuff when it arrives in probably a week or two.

I sincerely appreciate any and all advice with a appropriate program I can follow.

So thanks and I'll leave this in the competent hands of the Gods.

**Scorpion0922** · 06-23-2023, 10:24 AM

What are your goals?

How long have you been on prop/npp?

**Scorpion0922** · 06-23-2023, 10:25 AM

Duplicate

**VBEAR** · 06-23-2023, 03:53 PM

Hi, have been on roughly a week and half almost. Using this until the new stuff arrives in probably 2 weeks.

Main goals are to put on some size and look relatively defined.

I'm unable to lift heavy as I need a shoulder replacement etc, same with knees and have arthritis in most joints due to haemochromatosis.

Have tried everything but it just pain management now as eventually everything main joint needs replacing.

I'm 6 2, and around 100 kg with about 15 percent bf as I haven't trained for a year now.

Body responds immediately to training just need a boost.

Thanks for your reply

**Scorpion0922** · 06-23-2023, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by VBEAR

Hi, have been on roughly a week and half almost. Using this until the new stuff arrives in probably 2 weeks.

Main goals are to put on some size and look relatively defined.

I'm unable to lift heavy as I need a shoulder replacement etc, same with knees and have arthritis in most joints due to haemochromatosis.

Have tried everything but it just pain management now as eventually everything main joint needs replacing.

I'm 6 2, and around 100 kg with about 15 percent bf as I haven't trained for a year now.

Body responds immediately to training just need a boost.

Thanks for your reply

And whats your cycle history?

**VBEAR** · 06-23-2023, 04:31 PM

Only 1. That got interrupted as I had to go overseas for 3 months so it was a bit of a mess.

Basically test prop 450, NPP 375 weekly for 6 weeks, then primotabs overseas until I ran out. Customs seized I all in Switzerland.

And no real PTC. It was a mess. Though I did get good results

**Scorpion0922** · 06-24-2023, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by VBEAR

Only 1. That got interrupted as I had to go overseas for 3 months so it was a bit of a mess.

Basically test prop 450, NPP 375 weekly for 6 weeks, then primotabs overseas until I ran out. Customs seized I all in Switzerland.

And no real PTC. It was a mess. Though I did get good results

When was this?

**VBEAR** · 06-24-2023, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by Scorpion0922

When was this?

Almost a year ago now

**Cylon357** · 06-24-2023, 11:23 AM

PCT, not PTC

16 week cycle looks good. Cuz knows his stuff.

You meant 25mg or 50mg, not .25 .50 on the anavar . 25 to 50 mg per day in two doses would make a good kick-start, say on the first 6 weeks of the cycle. You could instead do the last 6 weeks, that might be better if this is your first go with NPP.

Hcg throughout cycle to maximize the chances of restart.

Follow the advice in the planning my first cycle sticky regarding hcg and pct, though substitute enclomiphene for clomid if you can. Cut the dose in half if using enclomiphene.

**VBEAR** · 07-17-2023, 05:54 PM

Hi all again,

Thank you for all the advice!

Everything arrived finally, though i received test e 250 rather than test c 300.

Can send it back etc so have to run with it. Given the ampoules are 250mg/ml I thought 2 injections of 187.5 giving me 375 of test e weekly.

NPP came in the 150mg/ml, 10 ml vial. Based on what i was going to do before should i match the NPP to test at 375 weekly?

Taking the advice ill order HCG . How much weekly should i use? From what i read 3 injectings of 250 seems to be consensus? Will look through the forum but if anyone feels like answering that would be of value.

Given, the difficulties in measuring quantities specifically test e, can i pre prep a syringe, and store it.

Have been on test p the last month, do i need any transition for using test E?

Also dont know what to do with the Anavar , should i start now for 6 weeks or should i do the last 6 weeks?

Thank you for any help

**Cylon357** · 07-17-2023, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by VBEAR

Hi all again,

Thank you for all the advice!

Everything arrived finally, though i received test e 250 rather than test c 300.

Can send it back etc so have to run with it. Given the ampoules are 250mg/ml I thought 2 injections of 187.5 giving me 375 of test e weekly.

NPP came in the 150mg/ml, 10 ml vial. Based on what i was going to do before should i match the NPP to test at 375 weekly?

Taking the advice ill order HCG . How much weekly should i use? From what i read 3 injectings of 250 seems to be consensus? Will look through the forum but if anyone feels like answering that would be of value.

Given, the difficulties in measuring quantities specifically test e, can i pre prep a syringe, and store it.

Have been on test p the last month, do i need any transition for using test E?

Also dont know what to do with the Anavar , should i start now for 6 weeks or should i do the last 6 weeks?

Thank you for any help

Read through the responses here, particularly my last one. And go read the "My First Cycle" sticky, just the first post. Yes, it is long. But it good basic info you need. The only thing that has changed is the thoughts on AI, now the tendency is not to pre-emptively run one. Dealer's choice, though.

**Cylon357** · 07-17-2023, 07:26 PM

I will add, though, that a DHT derivative like var or masteron will keep bloat down. I saw that as something you want to avoid (in your original post) so thought I would add that.