the unofficial how to do pct thread

[shearered]

very good information. Very easy to read and understand. Thanks for posting it.

[DannyNyce]

on the previous thread named PCT BY SWALE he mentions:
"I like Arimidex during the cycle (in fact, consider use of an AI while taking aromatisables a necessity) but it ABSOLUTELY should not be used post cycle (even though it has been shown to increase LH production) because the risk of driving estrogen too low, and therefore further damaging an already compromised Lipid Profile, is too great (this also drives libido back into the ground—and we don't want that, do we?)."

and on this one thread the author recommends having an AI (arimidex) and a SERM for pct.

since these 2 statements contradict, which is closest to correct? i understand that it depends on the individual and on the type and length of cycles but does anyone have an opinion?

i'm doing research on pct before i even start my cycle. here's what i've put together so far, please comment.

week 1 - 5 25mg of dbol every day (35 days) it's injectable form
week 1 - 10 250mg test cyp mon/thurs

maybe drop the test cyp gradually

Arimidex while on cycle .5 to 1mg/day

Nolvadex for PCT 2 weeks after last shot
20mgs - 40mgs/day for 4 weeks (28 days) ease on and tapper off last week

maybe run 10mg of dbol/day for keeping gains while PCTing since i'll have some left?

thanks. i've posted here before but not for a long time and forgot my log/pass

[peachfuzz]

superdrol and phera-plex are progestins???

[bryan.v.lorenzo]

when he says:

What might a typical PCT look like?
Weeks 1-4 100mg of Clomid (SERM) and 25mg of Aromasin (AI)

does he mean this every week, every other day, every three days etc??

[shifty_git]

when he says:

What might a typical PCT look like?
Weeks 1-4 100mg of Clomid (SERM) and 25mg of Aromasin (AI)

does he mean this every week, every other day, every three days etc??

100mg of clomid every day for 4 weeks and 25mg of Aromasin Everyday for 4 weeks...

[bryan.v.lorenzo]

100mg of clomid every day for 4 weeks and 25mg of Aromasin Everyday for 4 weeks...

got it thanks

[shifty_git]

got it thanks

If you add nolva and half the amount of clomid you pretty much have Pheedno's PCT (one of the stickies)

[jbonez19]

good one stocky.

[gassedup1]

hi i have just come of test 400 doing two shots a week being 800mgs for 10weeks now doing 4 weeks of anavar what pct shud i be doing and when shud i start and i can only get my hands on novardex

[Big]

hi i have just come of test 400 doing two shots a week being 800mgs for 10weeks now doing 4 weeks of anavar what pct shud i be doing and when shud i start and i can only get my hands on novardex

You should follow the advice I gave in your thread and take more than a couple minutes to study pct, then start your own thread in the pct section.

[ecto9]

I used to get spoon fed when I was a baby.

[jackjackson]

Very useful thread, a+++

[clockwork_killer]

good jobs loads of good info

[ab037]

Great thread! very useful info!

[lovex]

gr8 info....must read

[Voice of Reason]

Good stuff...

[kizza234]

what's the difference between a clomid/nolva pct and a clomid/aromasin pct? I see a lot of people doing clomid/aromasin.... just wanted to know the difference.

[Stuey289]

Thanks stocky m8 !
Just 1 question whats the best thing to stack with sustanon / suss ?
and will i need nolvadex or clomid when ending this cycle ?
THANKS M8

[OPSCON 1]

Was thinking regarding my research online.. For a beginer like me to go with my danabol 30 mg a day blue hearts. I bought from thialand..Thinking either Letrozl or Aromas for an AI probally Letro ... with Nolva as a serm..Clen as an anti cortisol and of course cailis as for lack of drive so to speak..And lastly LIV 52 for liver support and milk thisel .. What you think for resasearch purposes? Or should I go another route..Any sugestions. Thank for your professional input and support.


AGE..27
Weight. 79 kilos...169 lbs roughly
Build..Med
Fat... around 12%
5ft 5in height

[hazewayz1]

this was very helpful


thanks

[toomany]

perfect..... very very helpful

[jjustin]

whats the easiest way to go about getting HCG .
im having troubles

[jjustin]

is post cycle tabs (supplement) and Nolvadex enough as a pct??

[WhiteshooZ]

AI's:
Arimidex : 3-4 weeks @ .25mg or .5mg ed
Letro: 3 weeks @ .25 or .5mg ed
Aromasin : 3-4 weeks @ 20-25mg ed
proviron 3-4 weeks @ 25mg-50mg ed

Umm.. I'm thinking the numbers are off here. Look at Arimidex and Letro. You can take 0.5mg ed or 0.25 (how often?)

0.5 is double 0.25. Did the original author mean 2.50mg instead of 0.25mg. That decimal makes a pretty big difference.

[sabeel_21]

great info stocky very helpfull

[markleedsfc]

great article....very helpful

[taftkeeper07]

I just finished a cycle of Beastadrol/Katanadrol.. I was wondering is forged post cycle enough

also last day or so my nipples have been a little sensitive so I bought some liquid letro..will this be enough along with the forged post cycle..and do I have to worry about the estrogen rebound?

[peachfuzz]

post the ingredients to those....

letro is not what you need post cycle, you need SERMs (nolvadex , clomid), both for the sensitive nipples and recovery.

[onesweetwrld]

Im beginning my very first AAS cycle and seem to be very confused on PCT...I have been reading many forums and threads on what to use and how often and everything seems to contradict itself. I have read to take an AI and SERM together and others saying that a Nolva 40/40/20/20/20 would be fine and so on and so forth. What would you suggest as a PCT without HCG being in the fold ?

[D7M]

Im beginning my very first AAS cycle and seem to be very confused on PCT...I have been reading many forums and threads on what to use and how often and everything seems to contradict itself. I have read to take an AI and SERM together and others saying that a Nolva 40/40/20/20/20 would be fine and so on and so forth. What would you suggest as a PCT without HCG being in the fold ?

you'd be better off starting your own thread in the pct section

[Jaybizzle]

So funny how many people have asked questions here.

So obvious they hav'nt looked through the the whole thing and seen that nobodys questions have been answered...lol

My dry English humor

[ciptech]

helpful stuff man, appreciated.

[reign82]

Anyone have any experience with,

Age:28
Years training: 4
Weight: 220 LB
Cycle #2 (I know that's a lot of gear for a second cycle so spare me)

A little info about my cycle 12 week - [sustanon 250x3 wk, Tren Enathate 200x3 wk, equipose 200x3 wk,then to end it winny last 4-5 wk's 50 EOD cycle] I am also quitting the sustanon early (week 4) and switching to Test Cyprionate to avoid the lingering effects of the sust hanging in my body as much as I can.
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____
I plan on doing the following PCT (after waiting 3-4 weeks of nothing but protein and vitamins and power lifting)

1. Arimidex : 4 weeks @ .5mg (for 2 weeks) then .25mg ed
2. Clomiphene: 4 weeks @ 100mg ed first 2 weeks, 50mg ed last 2 weeks

(this is what I used last cycle and had mixed results)

adding

3. proviron 3-4 weeks @ 25mg-50mg ed -then here is where I am unsure because I have 1000ml amps) - starting at with other 2 PCT drugs @ a dose of 500ml, then around week 2 stepping down to 250ml (subdermal of coarse)

Anyone have any experience with using liquid Provirion during a PCT cycle, the only reason I am thinking of adding is because I did a pretty heavy cycle.

OR should I dose differently before im off the gear and use to help shrinkage instead?

-B

[TxRxIxPxLxE]

This is brilliant !

[jester4710]

BLOOD WORK

what to get checked out when you do get checked


> testosterone , total, free and weekly bound
> TSH
> cortisol, total
> t3, free
> t4, free
> igf1
> igfbp-3
> dhea sulphate
> hemoglobin A1C
> fasting insulin
> cbc
> comprehensive metabolic panel
> lipid panal
> GGT (important liver value)
> PSA


in my eyes you should get tested before the start of a cycle to make sure everthing is good to start. half way through a cycle to make sure everything is still ok especially if it's a long cycle and also about 4 week's after PCT to make sure your levels have come to the same point that it was before you started.

Where would one go to get this blood work done? Family doctor? Endocrinologist?

[knifehead]

def go to an endo to get this done... just did this and she tested for all these plus some!

[bezzy]

cheers for the info

[Sicko]

I was hoping to get some more facts/testimonials on whether or not it is necessary to run PCT after a 8 wk cycle of 'var @ 80mg 7 days a week.I have been reading alot of threads,both educational and opinions but seem to be inconclusive as to PCT necessisity.Since it does not aromatize gyno is not a concern,even @ high doses it still does not shut down hpta's and it looks like it only slightly supresses serum shbg and lh levels sooooo..... wtf... is there a reason that something like nolva is needed?

[Sicko]

Hey just checkin in to see if anyone got back to me on the PCT question I posted.
PCT after 'var ? yes or no..........

[Sicko]

I am obviously missing something on how to access this forum I cannot seem to read any responses..Please explain to me or post a open forum on how to get into this sht..Every time I try to get to my response to questions I get this..
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