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    The gains from Var is more "permanent" than Test because u loose more waterweight after a Test cycle, ie it seems the Var gains are more solid.
    How fast you recover your HPTA and how anti-catabolic you stay will determine the keeps, not the compound you ran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flier View Post
    The gains from Var is more "permanent" than Test because u loose more waterweight after a Test cycle, ie it seems the Var gains are more solid.
    How fast you recover your HPTA and how anti-catabolic you stay will determine the keeps, not the compound you ran.
    ^^^Exactly. People think their gains from var or primo are more solid or permanent because they don't lose water at the end of cycle. Gains to me are LBM, nothing more, water retention is not gains.

    There is no steroid that causes more permanent gains than others, all things being equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flier View Post
    The gains from Var is more "permanent" than Test because u loose more waterweight after a Test cycle, ie it seems the Var gains are more solid.
    How fast you recover your HPTA and how anti-catabolic you stay will determine the keeps, not the compound you ran.
    im not talking water weight. But actual muscle gained
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    im not talking water weight. But actual muscle gained
    Yes, my post was in agreement with your statement.
    I just worded it a little backwards.

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