proper pct dosage for 9 month cycle

[judoguy]

hi guys, Im 46 years old 170 pounds, and have been on a 500 test e with 100 dbol a week for 9 months, I just got some hcg injectable and I have some nolva as well, apparently I need to use small insulan needles to inject the hcg, how much do I inject and for how long, as well how long with the oral nolva at 20mg, I also have aromasin , could not get clomid. also this is my first cycle.thanks guys

[Bio-Active]

What are you trying to do here. Are you coming off after 9 months and running pct or are you cruising and blasting?

[judoguy]

I was hoping to come off and if my normal levels come back im considering going back on, I don't want to shut myself down permantly, and be on trt for the rest of my life.

[Bio-Active]

I was hoping to come off and if my normal levels come back im considering going back on, I don't want to shut myself down permantly, and be on trt for the rest of my life.

After being on for 9 months it may be a bumpy rd to recovery. What have you planned for pct?

[judoguy]

I bought hcg injectable / nolva/aromasin , I just don't know how much of each to take and for how long,i have no plan as of yet, all my guys say is there is no right or wrong, but you guys have this down to I science,thats why im here also note that I have been taking arimadex throught cycle that I forgot to mention

[Bio-Active]

I bought hcg injectable / nolva/aromasin, I just don't know how much of each to take and for how long,i have no plan as of yet, all my guys say is there is no right or wrong, but you guys have this down to I science,thats why im here also note that I have been taking arimadex throught cycle that I forgot to mention

You have a couple options here. You could do the power pct protocol or run a low trt dose of testosterone for 4-6 weeks while running hcg at 250 iu 2x EW and try and get the testies functioning again. Then run nolvadex and Clomid pct

[judoguy]

ok , I need both options in layman terms, otherwise I will have to show answer to my guy who will in turn ask his guy,i kinda want to just get the boys working on their own asap, then when and if I go back own I will know how to come off properly, I have another friend in the same boat asking me and I know f/a what to do, also i cant get clomid just aromasin , also im on 100 deca per shot, not dbol if that makes much difference.thanks sorry man im real green with pct

[Bio-Active]

Deca sticks around in your system for a while so you need to discontinue that compound. I would run your hcg at 250 iu 2 xew for the next 4 to 6 weeks and with your test at 100-125 EW. Start your pct 14 days from the last pin of test and run your hcg right up to starting your pct

[judoguy]

cool , ok for the pct how many miligrams nolva and will the aromasin substitude for the clomid that I can seem to get, do I need to take and for how long,thanks

[Bio-Active]

cool , ok for the pct how many miligrams nolva and will the aromasin substitude for the clomid that I can seem to get, do I need to take and for how long,thanks

You don't sub aromasin for Clomid. Clomid is a serm and aromasin is an AI better used on cycle. Are you not wanting to use Clomid? You could use torem

[PistolPete33]

You cycled for 9 months and you're only 170lbs??????? Are you 3 feet tall???

[kelkel]

After being on as long as you have been, without hcg , I'd do what Jim initially mentioned. Google the Scally Power PCT Protocol and read up. I would think it will give you your best chance, IMHO.

[judoguy]

this is what I found does this look right
HCG DAYS 1-16: 2500iu eod

CLOMID DAYS 1-30: 50mg 2x a day

NOLVADEX DAYS 1-45: 20mg ed

I cant seem to get clomid without paying thru the teeth

I knew someone would chime in about the weight, too much cardio, not enough food, poor workout schedule, tons of judo injuries,summer is my busy season and did not want to have to deal with coming off, now im in this boat with little help at my end other than my doctor who said he would help if I get stuck,thanks

[Bio-Active]

this is what I found does this look right
HCG DAYS 1-16: 2500iu eod

CLOMID DAYS 1-30: 50mg 2x a day

NOLVADEX DAYS 1-45: 20mg ed

I cant seem to get clomid without paying thru the teeth

I knew someone would chime in about the weight, too much cardio, not enough food, poor workout schedule, tons of judo injuries,summer is my busy season and did not want to have to deal with coming off, now im in this boat with little help at my end other than my doctor who said he would help if I get stuck,thanks

Yep thats it

[dominicanbjj]

You have a couple options here. You could do the power pct protocol or run a low trt dose of testosterone for 4-6 weeks while running hcg at 250 iu 2x EW and try and get the testies functioning again. Then run nolvadex and Clomid pct

so can i do that TRT and hcg followed by pct if i dont recover well from a cycle?!?!

of course it suppose i must get some bloods first...the thing is im on my last week of pct nolva and clomid and man, feeling moody and no sex drive...sometimes i get hard and masturbate, it has happened twice this past week, is it a sign of recovery?! though my testicles are still little.

i had a 12 week cycle of test prop and winny with test at 900mg per week then tappered down at week 9 to 450mgs per week... i used hcg por 5 weeks at 1000iu and then started PCT 2 weeks after due to a problem.

[Bio-Active]

So you dont hijackthis thread why don't you start your own thread and list out your exact cycle length dose(s) and all the compounds used along with your exact pct protocal so we can look at it.

[judoguy]

sorry to be a pain jim, am I going to run hcg at 250 iu 2 xew one pin a day at 250 for 16 days, can I add it to the test pin or keep separate, in the stomache fat ? I get one guy saying a shot a week, and the other saying a shot a day with the insulane pin. thanks please advise

[Bio-Active]

You can do it either way. Why not just run 250 iu 2 x EW during the entire cycle?

[judoguy]

hi jim, I did not know I could, I thought hcg was a form of pct, my people were telling me that the arimadex would keep the boys from shutting down, my people at my end have hung me out to dry, anyhow if I run the hcg twice a week at 250 4-6 weeks are you saying to run the test at 100-125 once a week ? or twice a week ??? second question is this what you would consider cruising ? and lastly if I stayed with the hcg and jumped back up to 500 after the 4-6 week mark would I be risking having to be on trt for rest of my life

[Bio-Active]

Your people have no idea what they are talking about and giving you poor advice. If you want to recover you are going to need to come off and you can either do the power pct or stay on and run the hcg as we discussed. Either way a crash at some point may happen.

[judoguy]

thanks jim, last question I hae a 5ml ampule of hcg with another ampule of water, I mix the 2 and that will leave me with how many ui , the pins are 1ml am i injecting 25 to equal 250ui

[Bio-Active]

thanks jim, last question I hae a 5ml ampule of hcg with another ampule of water, I mix the 2 and that will leave me with how many ui , the pins are 1ml am i injecting 25 to equal 250ui

I wouldn't be able to answer that unless I knew how many iu's are in the vial. A 5 ml amp isn't telling me anything?

[bass]

running for 9 months at those doses! I doubt he'll get back to where he was, but its worth a try.

[judoguy]

hey jim, I got my glasses and magnifier out and all it says is 5000 units 5ml vial , also just got off the phone with a pro body builder,like yourselves, and he said its a weeks worth, and to just mix the two gently, also I really know now I screwed up big time.

[Bio-Active]

hey jim, I got my glasses and magnifier out and all it says is 5000 units 5ml vial , also just got off the phone with a pro body builder,like yourselves, and he said its a weeks worth, and to just mix the two gently, also I really know now I screwed up big time.

5000iu divided by however many cc's of bac water you use will give you the potency. Example if you add 10cc of bac water divided by 5000 gives you 500 iu each cc or 250 iu per 1/2 cc. How long that lasts depends on how much you are doing

[judoguy]

jim sorry my brain is shutting down as well, what I would like to do is two shots a week for 3weeks in the glute assuming at 2cc , can you tell me how much bac water to put in with hcg to make it potent enough for my situation,and I will stop the test altogether

[Bio-Active]

jim sorry my brain is shutting down as well, what I would like to do is two shots a week for 3weeks in the glute assuming at 2cc , can you tell me how much bac water to put in with hcg to make it potent enough for my situation,and I will stop the test altogether

You have been on gear with your testies not functioning for 9 months you are going to need to refer to the power pct posted up in your earlier post and follow that protocal. On that protocal I believe you will be doing subq injections daily

[Bio-Active]

this is what I found does this look right
HCG DAYS 1-16: 2500iu eod

CLOMID DAYS 1-30: 50mg 2x a day

NOLVADEX DAYS 1-45: 20mg ed

Here you go

[judoguy]

I know this is correct, the problem is the mathematics, the ui , the cc , the ml, conversions, getting really stressed out, I am at a total loss, to make this happen, Im starring at a 5000ui vial of hgc powder, and a 5ml vial of back water, and a 1m -100cc pin
now the big question ??? how much water ? or does it all go in, and how many cc do I pin, and does eod mean every other day. I realize that the amount of water changes the concentration. until these questions are answerd, im totally %$&*

[Bio-Active]

Adding 5 cc of bac water will give you 1000 iu per cc once you have reconstituted your hcg

[judoguy]

so then I take one 25cc pin every other day for 16 days (correct) ???

[Bio-Active]

so then I take one 25cc pin every other day for 16 days (correct) ???

You mean 2.5 right?

[judoguy]

no I wasn't , the insulane pins only go to 100cc 2.5 would mean 2.5 syringes, if your saying 2.5 now were in the big test pins no ??

[Bio-Active]

no I wasn't , the insulane pins only go to 100cc 2.5 would mean 2.5 syringes, if your saying 2.5 now were in the big test pins no ??

No insulin syringes will be exactly 1cc there are 10 units measured in each cc which equals 100 units

[judoguy]

so how many units will equal 25

[Bio-Active]

so how many units will equal 25

2.5 cc will equal 2500 iu mixing 5 ml of bac water with 5000 iu hcg

[judoguy]

you want 3 sub q injections instead of one in the glute, that would be a lot in stomach

[Bio-Active]

You can certainly mix your hcg stroger by adding less bac water. By just reconstituting one vial of 5000 iu hcg with 1 cc of bac water one cc would equal 5000 iu. 1/2 cc would equal 2500 iu so you would get 2 pins out of the one vial

[judoguy]

ok now this all make sense, your a scholar and a gentlemen bro

[judoguy]

hi jim, I found a online hgc calculator, the site provider says he prefers a .5 injection or should I go lower amount, also I did a 250 test e shot on Wednesday, how long should I wait for the hcg shot,here is the numbers it gave me,I greatly value your input

Amount of hCG Powder (IU): 5000ui
Preferred Injection Volume (ml/cc): .5
hCG dose per Injection (IU): 2500
Diluent Needed (ml/cc): 1

NOTE: Insulin syringes are standardized for insulin, a 0.3cc holds 30 units, a 0.5cc holds 50 units, and a 1cc holds 100 units. 10 units is equal to 0.1cc. Since your hCG will be concentrated differently than insulin it will therefore not be following the same standard. Make it easy and use 0.3, 0.5 or 1cc as your preferred injection volume and get yourself the syringe of matching max volume. I use .5cc to dose